So, considering this is Lemmy I’ll clarify. I’m not talking about your neighbor who voted for Trump or your uncle who’s always been a dick. I’m talking about coming in contact with a deep down evil scary human. I’ve only met one that I can think of. When I was 12 or 13 I spent a ton of time at my best friends house. He lived on a big beautiful rural property with his dad, a few brothers and always one or two random dudes. His dad was a good electrician and a biker. So, he always had friends/associates hanging around. So one day I was staying over for a long weekend and we met a new guy his dad was housing for a week or two. Dude was a real full fledged nazi. Had a swastika under his eye and tats all over most of his body. He was from California I guess. He was “working” with my buddies dad for awhile. Anyway, the main interaction I had with him was when he pulled my friend and I in for a sermon. We were going to go hunt squirrels and do rural kid shit. He stopped us outside and had us sit on the porch. Spent about 20 minutes explaining all the things youd imagine a nazi explains. Moslty about catholics, jews and blacks. My friends dad came out after awhile and told him we didn’t need to hear that shit. He sent us away, but, I never forgot the look this dude had in his eyes. It was like the look of complete bordem mixed with extreme anger all the time.

  • ryannathans@aussie.zone
    836·
    9 个月前

    This is a pretty standard method of pest control, were the cats wild pests? Or are we talking neighbours cats?

    Cats should not be allowed to freely roam the streets

    • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
      48·
      9 个月前

      Call me a woke weakling, but I believe even in pest control, you shouldn’t make another being suffer. If you have to kill something for a good reason, the fucking least you can do is make it quick. If you don’t have the gender-neutral balls to do it properly, you shouldn’t do it at all.

      • ryannathans@aussie.zone
        535·
        9 个月前

        Indeed, drowning is a good method that doesn’t accidentally kill the wrong targets and is not causing prolonged suffering like many traps that latch onto the animal. What would you use to kill pests?

        • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
          17·
          9 个月前

          From what I have heard, drowning sucks as a death. Just shoot them? Or decapitate? Or use anything else that takes seconds instead of minutes?

          To be fair, I have never had to heal with a cat plague, the biggest thing I’ve come near were rodents and fish. No idea how practical it is. But again, if one doesn’t have the means for a humane killing, then don’t be the one killing.

          Also, I’m pretty sure those “beartrap” style traps are illegal here, and poison traps are usually designed to allow target only one species (usually, rats, since you can’t get them any other way).

          • ryannathans@aussie.zone
            315·
            9 个月前

            I think it’s pretty hard for random members of the population to successfully decapitate animals. Not everyone is able to use a gun. Drowning is quick with no probability of failure or extended suffering.

            • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
              16·
              9 个月前

              Eh, drowning is probably the biggest suffering you can create without going for extra effort. Just because it’s quiet doesn’t mean it’s fast, I’d take being beaten to death over being drowned any day.

              Besides, as I said, if you are not able to kill something quickly, you are not qualified to kill it. People who do stuff like catch fish and then leave them to suffocate just piss me off. If you don’t have the ability to at the very least bash it over the head, then get someone to do it for you.

              • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
                11·
                9 个月前

                I had a mouse problem once upon a time, and the new “humane” traps didn’t actually kill them. I got tired of bludgeoning them with a shovel and drowned one, thinking it would be easier. That was brutal and horrific, and I went back to using the shovel.

                There is nothing humane about drowning an animal.

                • Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de
                  5·
                  9 个月前

                  I had the same experience about the mouse problem. Long ago parents caught a mouse with a trap that won’t kill them. With no better idea of what to do with it, they decided to drown it. We watched it drown slowly and painfully. They never do that again.

            • Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de
              7·
              9 个月前

              Have you seen animals drown? In cats specifically, I’ve seen children drowning a newborn kitty. But I was just a child too, it was a raining day, no adults around. It was a horrible way for an animal to die. I still remember the sounds. Didn’t stop them because I was a coward. I didn’t know Australians can kill their cats in such a way casually.

        • Burninator05@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          9 个月前

          Not cats but I had a coworker once that put out glue traps for mice but wouldn’t finish the job after they were caught. I ended up dropping a 20 pound weight from waist high on them. It was the quickest way to do it with what I had available. I spoke to him after and there were no more glue traps.

      • ryannathans@aussie.zone
        523·
        9 个月前

        It’s pretty good in comparison with almost every other method. It’s pretty privileged to assume everyone can hire professionals for pest management and even then their methods are usually worse. What method would you be suggesting?

    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
      15·
      9 个月前

      Waits for them to finish eating and asks if they enjoyed their last meal. She was actively humanizing them before drowning them.

      • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        9 个月前

        I’m not agreeing with nathan from satan up above in his implication of it being fine, but it was normal in undeveloped nations (read: before cell phones or even the ‘car phones’). My friend would repeat the story his father’s generation did in scandinavia: kittens that you didn’t want born were gathered up in a sack, which was tied, and said sack was tossed in a pond or stream. It was relatively simple, didn’t require you to ‘waste’ a bullet, and if you walked away for a while you didn’t have to deal with (in other words, see/hear/comprehend) the horror of what you just did.

      • ryannathans@aussie.zone
        714·
        9 个月前

        Far better than leaving poisoned baits for random animals to eat that are not the intended target, or traps that cause extreme suffering in the same manner as bear traps, and doesn’t require guns which are very hard to access now

          • IronBird@lemmy.world
            21·
            9 个月前

            look up Australian Cat Plague, if you want to see what happens when you truly let cats just go ham outside “because it’s natural” or whatever reason most people use. they’re little apex predators that kill anything they can get their claws on, if there’s no native predators to control them they will dominate everything smaller than them

            you cannot save them all, no amount of adoption centers would be able to receive the inflow of cats from a proper plague of them. there entire pet industries designed towards selling these animals to people who probably can’t even take care of actual human kids let alone an animal

          • ryannathans@aussie.zone
            78·
            9 个月前

            Maybe the commenter can tell us

            Feral cats kill an extreme amount of native wildlife here and are essentially the sole cause of extinction for many animals. You cannot rehome feral cats as pets and there’s basically nowhere to take them.

    • Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de
      9·
      9 个月前

      This is eye-opening, in a post that talks about evil people. If it’s for population control, isn’t it usually Trap, Spay, Return? But then again, there are some parts of the world people can torture or causally kill cats and dogs with no legal consequences. Humans are disappointing.