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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
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So many CRITICAL and MANDATORY steps in the release instruction file. As it always is with AI, if it doesnāt work, just use more forceful language and capital letters. One more CRITICAL bullet point bro, thatāll fix everything.
Sadly, I am not too surprised by the developers of Lean turning towards AI. The AI people have been quite interested in Lean for a while now since they think it is a useful tool to have AIs do math (and math = smart, you know).
The whole culture of writing āsystem promptsā seems utterly a cargo-cult to me. Like if the ST: Voyager episode āTuvixā was instead about Lt. Barclay and Picard accidentally getting combined in the transporter, and the resulting sadboy Barcard spent the rest of his existence neurotically shouting his intricately detailed demands at the holodeck in an authoritative British tone.
If inference is all about taking derivatives in a vector space, surely there should be some marginally more deterministic method for constraining those vectors that could be readily proceduralized, instead of apparent subject-matter experts being reduced to wheedling with an imaginary friend. But I have been repeatedly assured by sane, sober experts that it is just simply is not so
When I first learned that you could program a chatbot merely by giving instructions in English sentences as if it was a human being, I admit I was impressed. Iām a linguist, natural language processing is really hard. There was a certain crossing over boundaries over the idea of telling it at chatbot level, e.g. āand you will never delete files outside this directoryā, and this āsystem promptā actually shaping the behaviour of the chatbot. I donāt have much interest in programming anymore but I wondered how this crossing of levels was implemented.
The answer of course is that itās not. Programming a chatbot by talking to it doesnāt actually work.
I donāt have any good lay literature, but get ready for āsteering vectorsā this year. It seems like two or three different research groups (depending on whether I count as a research group) independently discovered them over the past two years and they are very effective at guardrailing because they can e.g. make slurs unutterable without compromising reasoning. If youāre willing to read whitepapers, try Dunefsky & Cohan, 2024 which builds that example into a complete workflow or Konen et al, 2024 which considers steering as an instance of style transfer.
I do wonder, in the engineering-disaster-podcast sense, exactly what went wrong at OpenAI because they arenāt part of this line of research. HuggingFace is up-to-date on the state of the art; they have a GH repo and a video tutorial on how to steer LLaMA. Meanwhile, if youāll let me be Bayesian for a moment, my current estimate is that OpenAI will not add steering vectors to their products this year; theyāre already doing something like it internally, but the customer-facing version will not be ready until 2027. They just arenāt keeping up with research!
It reminds me of the bizzare and ill-omened rituals my ancestors used to start a weed eater.
Great. Now weāll need to preserve low-background-radiation computer-verified proofs.
One of my old teachers would send documents to the class with various pieces of information. They were a few years away from retirement and never really got word processors. They would start by putting important stuff in bold. But some important things were more important than others. They got put in bold all caps. Sometimes, information was so critical it got put in bold, underline, all caps and red font colour. At the time we made fun of the teacher, but I donāt think I could blame them. They were doing the best they could with the knowledge of the tools they had at the time.
Now, in the files linked above I saw the word āneverā in all caps, bold all caps, in italics and in a normal font. Apparently, one step in the process is mandatory. Are the others optional? This is supposed to be a procedure to be followed to the letter with each step being there for a reason. These are supposed computer-savvy people
Iāll admit I did not read the scripts in detail but this is a solved problem. The solution is a script with structured output as part of a pipeline. Why give up one of the only good thing computers can do: executing a well-defined task in a deterministic way. Reading this is so exhaustingā¦
A lot of the money behind lean is from microsoft, so a push for more llm integration is depressing but unsurprising.
Turns out though that llms might actually be ok for generating some kinds of mathematical proofs so long as youāve formally specified the problem and have a mechanical way to verify the solution (which is where lean comes in). I donāt think any other problem domain that llms have been used in is like that, so successes here canāt be applied elsewhere. I also suspect that a much, uh, leaner specialist model would do just as good a job there. As always, llms are overkill that can only be used when someone else is subsidising them.