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this is what really sets leftists apart from liberals imo.
liberals like to decorate themselves with the nimbus of morality but when it comes to stepping up to fascism and protesting even if it’s not like a fun parade but serious and uncomfortable. Or just if the weather is bad.
Or when it comes to being self critical about your own learned patterns of behavior and thinking… they are nowhere to be seen, not to be relied on and it does real damage, as we can see.
Sometimes caring about your own comes first. I know, shocking, right? Imagine the drama this would have caused, Trump would invoke military threats to free Netanyahu. It’s just not worth the conflict and you know he will walk away anyway.
Did you read the post you’re commenting on?
These countries are part of NATO.
NATO is an alliance against external threats. We’re talking about internal conflicts. Did you miss the part where Trump threatened Canada and Denmark, both being NATO members?
Article 5 can be invoked if one NATO member attacks another.
That’s literally false, go and read article 5. It explicitly says external threats, not internal. In this case, Article 1 applies, which is actually about internal conflicts., but it simply says that any conflicts should be resolved peacefully, not that other members have any obligation to get involved.
Article 5 doesn’t mention internal or external threats https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/introduction-to-nato/collective-defence-and-article-5
Because other articles already clarified that. If one law says “drinking is illegal”, another law does not need to say “drinking while being with friends is illegal”
It normally goes 1…2…3…, so if 1 already says something, 5 does not need to repeat something about being exclusively external.
Lmao we have a NATO expert here
Ok, can you point me which article says it’s for external threats only?
Honestly, not worth my time.
I’m not going to be your assistant in searching for stuff, but it goes something along these lines if internal attack happens - Article 1 is invoked. If whatever happened is not resolved peacefully, article 4 is invoked. Everyone gathers around and reminds the defender that NATO and Article 5 is linked to United Charters, and that (4-2?) quite clearly puts that into words (about inner conflicts), then everyone finished their high end meal and goes home.
TBH I sometimes bombard a family member of mine with questions, who’s an officer in army that’s under NATO.