Post had nothing to do with murder or violence. It is clear who reddit serves.
I literally rage quit reddit over this. Hence why am on Lemmy now. Hopefully we can draw more users from Reddit over here. Esp with the boycott of all things US.
Welcome! I migrated when the old Reddit apps stopped working, and the grass is indeed greener on this side, except for the non-English communities.
We’re allowed to discuss all forms of revolution, so long as they are ineffective.
So if you want to know how to stage a successful revolution, consider what you’re not allowed to say as the starting point. And take a look at how the CIA overthrows governments- it ain’t peaceful.
The number of peaceful revolutions we can unfortunately count on one hand. We can strive for to -but we have to be realistic
However there also has to be a plan. Simply overthrowing the existing rule allows chaos & someone worse to assume power
Not only that, but without a plan you won’t even be able to get close to overthrowing any half-competent regime.
so you’re saying there’s a chance?
The old rule has already been overthrown. By Trump, far right white Christian nationalists, and silicon valley. Unfortunately, it’s being replaced with something way worse.
Yes, I know - but the revolution is happening because people are angry and they believe the system is broken.
I’m all for a short return to normalcy if actual change follows.
If actual change does not follow, I promise you we will be right back in this position before you know it.
I completely agree that what’s coming is worse. But if you don’t have a plan, the ensuing chaos is EXACTLY what Silicon Valley is hoping for so they can grab power. They have said it out loud.
Something has to be done by someone otherwise we’re all fucked.
I do agree. The fact most people weren’t taking this threat seriously when we knew even in 2016 he was a Russian asset is appalling. But Russia has compromised every intel org. If you’re in CA please encourage your reps to purge the intel agencies of Russian assets.
yea, like what is currently happening is a “non-violent” coup. They used anger, mass disinformation and propaganda.
‘We can’t overthrow Hitler, because someone worse could come in to take his place.’
No one said that. As the others pointed out, I’m saying have a plan.
The go-to example is the French Revolution. There was no plan for after they eliminated the “bad guys,” and they ended up executing mostly non-rich folk. Saw a stat elsewhere that it may have been as few as 20% of victims were the rich.
Do we really want 80% of the people hurt by a revolution to be the common folk? If that’s what you wanted you might as well stick with the current status quo. You’re getting it.
I’m not going to argue further with you as the others have already done so well enough. I am only saying: have a plan, or things very well could go even worse
We already have plenty of socialist/communist revolution examples to follow.
No, you do not need to strategize before removing the boot from your neck.
That’s not what they said though
Same logic.
No, they just said there needs to be a plan. It’s not the same logic at all.
Ok. I guess evil can be permitted to run rampant while we work out a plan.
Well then, by that logic, let’s just nuke the entire planet today! Argue in good faith please.
The monopoly men have worked very hard over the past one hundred years to stamp out class consciousness in the US. They won’t give in without a fight.
Let’s not play dumb. Evoking the image of Luigi is in itself a gesture towards violence. That’s the point. Why discuss billionaires and show a picture of Luigi instead of Mary Poppins? Because of what Luigi did and what he represents. It’s implying a desirable solution.
It’s bullshit that Reddit removes this stuff, and it reveals where their loyalties lie, but we’re not on Reddit anymore.
Stop acting like a conservative and just say what you mean.
Or maybe act more like a conservative and obscure your viewpoints more so they don’t get banned. Let’s go Mary Poppins memes.
Agreed. Asking nicely is the only way to get the billionaires to stop.
fuck off, that’s not what I meant. I’m saying stop ACTING like you’re asking nicely.
If you knew about The Haymarket Affair, you would understand what it takes to strip power from robber barons.
Throwing dynamite at police and then getting other people hanged for it, creating martyrs that would bolster support for other labor movements?
What point are you making
I read about it and I’m a little confused. I’m not who you replied to, just a curious lurker. That’s a fascinating and very powerful event so first thank you for sharing, but I couldn’t figure out how it culminates in stripping power from robber barons
Luigi is “bad” violence but promoting the violent annexation of Canada is not? Give me a break.
Because they own the platform.
Hence, why Lemmy was needed.
Not saying it’s wrong, but the comments here look as much like an echo chamber as any other I’ve seen.
Oh hey look it’s the fucking weirdo who made a Linux hate community
You’d definitely know what an echo chamber looks like, that’s for sure
NGL if ya’lls ability to make rational appeals inherently relies on Luigi Mangione worship then you’re going to have a very difficult time just in general.
Even just using the un-photo-shopped Bernie Sanders original could swing the bias almost 50% in your favor when approaching the general public with your ideals.
Everybody loves Bernie. Only 18% approve of what Luigi did.
Last numbers I saw in that kinda world, where very much higher then 18% not sure where you are pulling that figure from?
The poll which came out on December 13th 2024
I dunno, that poll reads very much in favor of Luigi. The fact that a poll needs to be run in the first place for an act like this. To me anything that’s not strongly against this is showing some sort of support.
That’s some insane mental gymnastics you have there…
All luigi supporters are like that, it seems.
I guess most of his supporters are far left genocidal maniacs and alt Nazis, so no wonder.
What kind of retarded shit is this?
