• goodboyjojo@lemmy.world
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    reddit these days is very different. i remember people were buying each other reddit gold back in the day to pay for the site so it wouldn’t have to bend to advertisers and their rules. now reddit is big business

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    We should have absolute caps on incomes and wealth. In no fair world, would anyone be compensated with enough wealth to buy a fleet of mega yachts.

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    I gotta unpack this a little…

    Reddit’s main source of revenue is advertising. Other companies pay Reddit to shove ads in your face. You probably buy products from at least some of those companies, and while market forces and consumer perceptions have large influence, operating costs are still a factor in setting those prices. Just like everyone else, Reddit sets the prices of its advertising services based in part on its operating costs, which includes Spez’s salary.

    Even if you avoid Reddit, things you buy are more expensive because this fucking toolshed gets paid $193 million a year just to be a sociopathic jackoff with a popular website.

    I quit Reddit years ago, but I’m still fucking pissed about this shit and I have every right to be.

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      You’re funny. You think Reddit is the only place these tools get paid. So many of these are from other sites as well. And they dish out money to all of them.

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        Not exactly sure what you missed or what your point is supposed to be.

        The same would be true of any ad platform. I hate Facebook for all the ills it’s caused society and it pisses me off that my breakfast cereal is slightly more expensive because of Zuckerberg’s compensation package too.

        But Facebook, et al. aren’t being discussed here. Reddit is.

        Even if I stay off the internet completely, a portion of the money I spend STILL goes in their pocket, and the only way to prevent it is to spend hours exhaustively researching every product I buy to find the one or two alternatives out of hundreds of others that don’t feed into the system somehow. And even if product A doesn’t buy ads on these platforms, the place I shop for it probably does. If I can’t buy direct, as is the case with so many purchases, all that time and research are robbed of any real impact by the fact that my closest retail outlet spends millions on targeted Internet ads.

        But it’s not really about the money though, it’s about where it’s going.

        In an alternate timeline, Spez, Zuck, and the rest are decent human beings with a functioning conscience and use their platforms for the common good. I don’t mind those versions of them getting a piece of my alternate self’s dollar. But I don’t live in that universe.

        So, because I’m stuck here, every single one of these modern-day Prometheus wannabe, god-complex, techbro shitheads can kiss my hairy ass.

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        That doesn’t make them wrong, it just proves the companies are even worse than was originally implied cause they do this same scumfuckery all over the place. Congratulations, you played yourself.

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          I’m pretty sure my point was that they were worse then this dude said. I didn’t play myself, I just proved how many dumb fucks are in this site that don’t know how to fucking read you fucking tool.

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            Bro chill. You don’t even really seem to be disagreeing. Have some water and lie down for a minute and come back after you’ve cooled off.

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    I have sympathy for the moderators but not a lot. The should have unionised and demanded a salary a long time ago.

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      And I’ll add Lemmy/Piefed, actually the whole fediverse, should be run by co-operatives. I’m on Aussie.zone for nothing I add nothing to the instance I’m just a drain on resources. I should pay a yearly fee to be part of the community and should at the very least meta moderate. Like slashdot Uwe to do whereafter a period of time you got to review moderator choices and agree or disagree with the decision. Which based on criteria would the. Allow you to first person moderate.

      In short:

      • contribute to costs.
      • moderate the moderators
      • moderate
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        On one hand, yes. On the other hand, the moment paying for Lemmy becomes commonplace, is the moment financial interests would ruin everything. A donation model makes more sense.

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            You’d like lemmy.dbzer0.com (lemmy) or anarchist.nexus (piefed) then. Run by the same folks.

            Not a co-op, but they’ve put in place systems for instance users to democratically vote on all big administrative changes, any user can start a “radical” vote to oust any mod or admin, and people who have donated to the running costs (even just once) get more vote. Enough that people invested get more weight, but they wouldn’t be able to completely override the will of the rest of the userbase.

            Politically anarchist, pro-piracy (head admin and creator is former head mod of reddit’s r/piracy), accepting of AI (mostly pushing for local models, so corps aren’t the only ones with power) but don’t really have issues with anti-corp-AI views as long as you aren’t being a dick to the pro-AI comms/users.

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          No they’re not, they’re a form of personal opinion.

          Reporting a post or comment however does help us a lot because we don’t see everything.

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        Im personally a server admin on db0 and tbh I just sorta do it in my free time, I don’t personally think it needs to be monitized. Some funding for server costs is fine but that’s about it.

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        There’s a reason I donate to my instance. It’s not a lot, but it’s something that helps.

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      The should have unionised and demanded a salary a long time ago.

      Yeah, mods who tried to do that kind of thing were simply replaced as I recall it, and their subs transferred to new mods. Reddit is pretty much down the capitalist hellhole at this point.

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        *phew* Well, good thing I don’t need your sympathy. :D

        Fact is, Reddit is still a hugely-useful place for me, so I have one foot still wedging that door open.

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    No one deserves that much no matter what they’ve done. To squeeze that much out of the company requires taking away from employees, the company as a whole and advertisers.

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      According to a google search, reddit has 2,233 employees. Meaning his bonus is ~$86.5k per employee.

      Whenever I see these giant C suite bonuses announced, it seems hard to imagine why every single staff member doesnt demand a massive raise, and they all strike till they get it. After all, the company has just proven they have the massive piles of extra cash and can afford it.

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        Because it takes organization to get everyone to strike, especially when a majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. This is why corporations are also very anti-union. It’s how that organization happens. It’s how we got a 5-day work week!

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      to be fair, theres still a lot of really good info on there, by the matter of sheer volume alone. i learned a lot about linux for instance, from reddit the last couple years. Sadly lemmy doesnt yet have the volume that would have been able to foster the same amount of learning for me. heres to hoping lemmy grows faster by the day :)

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        My big problem is that Lemmy lacks sizable niche communities right now. The big topics get foot traffic, but the small stuff struggles.

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        I have found on Lemmy that you simply need to ask the questions to get the answers you want. While the user count may not be as high as on reddit, people here are way more active, and most of the commenters I’ve seen (especially in the tech communities) seem wicked smart and know what they are talking about.

        We don’t have the massive backlog of posts with the same questions asked over and over again on every topic, but that doesn’t mean the knowledge isn’t here. Engage, make posts, ask questions! We’ll get there.

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        I know people hate ai, but honestly Linux questions especially the low hanging fruit is perfectly answered by chat gtp etc.

        Part of the reason I switched was exactly because I didn’t have to google 10 different forums and could just ask for the answers. And you can keep asking clarifying questions to get more detail.

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          A vocal minority in a specific set of bubbles hates AI. Large numbers of people just quietly use it.

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            …yes, large numbers of the dumbest people on the planet, combined with the ACTUALLY vocal minority of pro-AI self-hosters who get butthurt when you call AI problematic.

            The population is widely, increasingly, becoming fed up with AI. I work in the actual world, and I speak with dozens of different people every day. Resoundingly sentiment is either unaware of AI or despises it.

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              no offense, but “i work in the actual world” comes off rudely dismissive, and possibly a bit narrow minded. like, how did saying that help support your argument at all, and why assume others dont exist irl?

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                Because if someone doesn’t preface with the fact that they are referring to real, lived experiences and not twitter screenshots, then they are dismissed as being chronically online.

                The stuff you said? That’s how you read it and perceived it, but it’s not what is said. And it’s not my job when arguing with people about dumb internet shit to figure out and account for how an offhand refutal comment will come off.

                I also don’t care if I’m being rude or snide. If you feel belittled, then you are insecure. I’m just a random douchebag on lemmy whose direct opinion of you, you shouldn’t care about. So if you feel belittled, it’s your own fault. Block and move on.

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              Sure thing. ChatGPT is the top app on both iOS and Android for no reason. I’m sure people are just about to realise that LLMs only hallucinate and give you what you want to hear, and the world will be back to how it was.

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                Did you miss the “large numbers of the dumbest people on the planet” bit or are you just unable to actually parse what I’m saying and write a valid response? Are you using AI to write your dumbassery?

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      You don’t even try, do you?
      Have a block, you insufferable trog.

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    “I have a hemorrhoid. It’s like an infected blood vessel on your ass. I’m nine years old, and I have a hemorrhoid, Stan. I have a hemorrhoid, and, Cartman has his own theme park.”

    Ok so I don’t actually have a hemorrhoid, but bad things do happen to good people. And Cartman has $193M in this example.