this is why we need open sourced pitchforks and torches
Knives, axes, sledgehammers, chainsaws, pickaxes. Your local Home Depot has all the tools for the DIYer in your life. Pick up a new present today.
We outnumber the billionaires 2million to 1
We can always chew out their tracheas.
We can bludgeon them with our fists.
We can use their fat to make firebombs to burn the rest.
You’ve just got to get creative.
Don’t worry, stress will force us to grind our teeth to fangs
Pitchforks and torches were best “weapons” a peasant had lying around that they could grab.
What I am trying to say is get your guns.
A bow and arrows would make a great guerilla warfare weapon, though. That’s one of the things I loved about the OG Punisher movie.
Plus they’re significantly easier to make than a gun and you don’t need to register with the government.
A crossbow is the best of both
…annnd they’re plastic
Funny enough us being able to afford a guillotine is in their best interest because alternatives include badly sharpened sticks, closest rock we find, and bare fucking hands.
Hungry dogs. Don’t forget, we have a lot of options.
According to Time in 2011, the protesters’ adoption of the mask had led to it becoming the top-selling mask on Amazon.com, selling hundreds of thousands a year. Warner Bros. Discovery, which owns Warner Bros. and DC Comics, owns the rights to the image and is paid a fee with the sale of each copyrighted mask.
Also, notably, Guy Fawkes was in no way anti-establishment or anti-monarchy, and was certainly not an anarchist. Fawkes (and his group) wanted to replace a Protestant monarch with a Catholic one.
Yeah in V for Vandetta he’s used as a symbol of British rebellion against the government, because the comic is extremely British. That said, the book is extremely anarchist and V is explicitly an anarchist, and the mask in popular culture at least in America is far more closely tied to that than to the actual gunpowder plot
Ah, interesting, is V an anarchist?
I’ve seen the movie more recently than read the book, so I don’t remember the exact presentation, but… don’t you think the phrase:
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
Imply that V expects governments to exist?
V has both personal and ideological problems with the current establishment, but I’m not sure that he’s completely against any establishment.
Movie and the graphic novel are drastically different in many ways. V is definitely an anarchist in the comic; not quite the same vibe in the movie.
He’s representative of a revolutionary, an anti-establishment force, in the movie with no discernable political philosophy other than antifascist in a very English way.
Alan Moore, the original author, was quite critical of the film itself. I like the film a lot, but I totally understand that it’s a farcry from Alan’s vision in the graphic novel.
V speaks of anarchy as having two roles: destroyer and creator, as he teaches Evey to create and he destroys. Additionally he describes anarchy as the order to be contrasted to the chaos immediately after his destruction of norsefire’s control.
As for that quote, I’m struggling to find evidence it was in the comic (I never actually watched the movie). The wikiquote for the comic doesn’t have that line, but the one for the movie does, and the comic one instead has a lot of V explaining anarchy to anyone whether or not they’re interested in listening.
The comic is very explicitly about British anarchism against British fascism, whereas the movie is a lot more about George W Bush, the patriot act, and the left wing opposition to these things in the America of the early and mid 00s
Very true, but as the movie says it’s a symbol. “Symbols are given power by people” and Guy Fawkes as a symbol is no longer tied to his historical actions. It symbolizes the character V, revolution, and the power of people to make change.
In much the same way a swastika means Nazi. Theres always that one guy that will tell you its an ancient symbol that means peace, but show anyone on the planet and they’ll say its a nazi thing.
The guy with the ancient symbol evidently can’t mirror or rotate objects in their head…
There may be less confusion over the whole thing if there weren’t horribly misdrawn ones all over basically every city
but show anyone in the western hemisphere of the planet and they’ll say its a nazi thing.
FTFY
This symbol says “I want to blow people up for God!”
Symbols should be chosen with more care, and not adopted from movies or comic books.
Good movie though
The movie was well produced and I think it delivers the intended message within its self-contained universe, but… considering that the entire story is framed in the context of the Gunpowder Plot, from beginning to end, I think that message is muddled when you understand the actual history behind it.
But the movie is about the fact that a man can become an idea, and once an idea, can no longer be a man. V cannot have love, because he has made himself into an idea and that idea is not compatible with the desires he feels in his heart. Just the same, the idea of Guy Fawkes does not require the consent or approval of the man.
That idea being “I want a Catholic monarch on the throne”.
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Lol. Like we paying for shit at that point.
Five finger discounts are always a good sale
…annnd they’re plastic
Like selling shovels in a gold rush
GPUs while AI enshitification.
Folks, I’d like to remind every that history is written by the winners.
I call bullshit. Of course a historian would tell you that writing history doesn’t make you a loser.
Always consider the source. taps forehead
I think my message was more or less, stop worrying about the price of the pitchforks. Just take them because if don’t fix this soon, history will see this as the time we failed to rise up against fascists because we couldn’t afford pitchforks as an excuse.
You’re not wrong, I was just being funny.
Nothing forces guns to hold their value like tighter gun laws. I know collectors that get excited about it.
