• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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    4 months ago

    terrorism

    n 1: the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear

    Well, kind of sounds like textbook terrorism. And to be clear, I’m cheering on these terrorists. This is terrorist on terrorist action and, in my opinion, a fair and fitting response.

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        4 months ago

        What if I blew up a water tower?

        Or burned down every grocery store in the city? (At night, while no-one was there to get hurt)

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          Then your act of vandalism/sabotage would have effects that harms people. Is this so difficult for you to understand? SMH.

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            It’s quite easy to understand. But you said “Property damage is not violence against civilians.”

            Clearly property damage can be violence against civilians.

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              Yeah, I get the argument that you’re trying to make, but this is a really shitty time to play devil’s advocate.

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                I’m not playing devil’s advocate. I’m trying to get people on my side of the political divide to stop supporting their ideas with falsehoods. That is one way the right wing is able to attract a certain kind of adherent. They just have to point to things like this, where we say, and support, a false idea that we demonstrably don’t even believe ourselves.

                If our ideas are good, we only need the truth to make them look good.

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                  Falsehoods? Like equating municipally owned water towers and privately owned charging stations?

                  You’re 100% playing devil’s advocate and drawing false equivalencies. Trying to sound like what you’re saying matters only works when what you’re saying… actually matters.

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        In other words, you can’t use violence against an empty car dealership in the middle of the night. So it’s not violent.

        Enough damage to that dealership costs someone money. That’s harm.

        Maybe not a lot of harm. But it’s harm.

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              The thing is: nearly everything can cause harm, in some small, indirect way. And everything is political, even if only some small, indirect way.

              So taken to the “logical” extreme, me eating oatmeal for breakfast is terrorism. It harmed the people in the fields working for low wages, and it’s a political choice to eat less meat for a meal.

              This is why it seems silly to meant of us to call burning Tesla dealerships terrorism. Does sitting bud light cans count as terrorism? Do boycotts count as terrorism?

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    Has anyone else heard that people are trying to return their new Teslas and Cybertrucks because they are apparently infested with bedbugs?! I guess they are in the factories and dealerships and have just been crawling into the cars at night?

    It wouldn’t surpise me if Elmo and the news are trying to keep a tight lid on it so people won’t find out, and Conspiracy nuts are saying that Tesla is torching their own Cybertrucks in the dealership lots to contain the spread.

    I didnt belive it at first but a friend of mine took a Lyft in a Tesla the other night and started to feel itchy but the back seat was dark and she was on her phone. While she was getting out, she noticed a bunch of tiny spots on her dress and they were bedbugs!

    Naturally she freaked the fuck out and the driver apologized profusely begging her not to give him a bad review before speeding off.

    She refused to go into her apartment afterward and spent a few hours in the laundry room practically naked running her clothes in the dryer! Apparently high heat is the only Way to get rid of them?

    She’s still traumatized and insists she still feels them crawling on her even though an exterminator with a bedbug sniffing dog assured her the apartment was clear.

    Has anyone else heard about this? It’s so messed up, considering they’re such expensive cars!

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    This is the inevitable conclusion of decades of justifying endless violence by labeling people “terrorists”. The word has no meaning other than “target of the state”. And now the state is this.

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    Rick: “You know, Mr. President, the more you use that word, the less impact it has. At this point, it’s like a terrorist is just a guy you don’t like.”

    Pres: “Shut up, you terrorist!”

    This is from memory, so isn’t gonna be fully accurate. Ah well.