• Psythik@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don’t need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.

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        Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is?

        Because some people had ideological differences with some of the Lemmy Devs. So instead of using the software as it’s supposed to be used, and simply defederating from instances they didn’t like, they went and made their own software which effectively does the same thing as Lemmy.

        I guess I don’t mind that there’s diversity in the Fediverse ecosystem, but at the same time, I feel like the people most adamant about pushing Piefed are doing so, because they want to be in an ideological echo chamber, as opposed to actually furthering the cause of federated social media, and open-source software.

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        12 hours ago

        In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn’t divided.

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          12 hours ago

          Well if that’s the case, then I’m fine with it being a thing. I thought they were a competing and thus incompatible platform.

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        That’s open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing “better”. Look at Linux, if people are curious about “switching to Linux” all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.

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          That’s more a community and presentation problem than a fragmentation problem. If people could agree on objective criteria for recommending Linux distros to newbies, it wouldn’t be so intimidating to them.

          Nobody criticizes Ford or Toyota for having “too many options” when they sell cars because they present those options as complementary and people see the variety as a good thing. Linux distros are often presented as competing products, even though for most of them that’s not the case.

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            The two devs Nutomic and Deslanies are pro-Russia anti-Ukraine tankies.

            One has a GitHub where he posts all his mind numbing theory and goes on about how the Uyghurs aren’t undergoing a genocide or Tiananmen Square never happened.

            The other has been caught multiple times making transphobic comments and just generally not giving a shit if transgender people are victims.

            Together with some other equally bad people they make up a trio of instances commonly referred to as the “tankie triad” (lemmygrad.ml, Lemmy.ml, and Hexbear.net) where they ban everyone who says critical things about Russia/China and generally push propaganda.

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      Literally moved yesterday from reddit when I got banned because I angrily pointed out some fascist was parroting Trump/Russian talking points. Apparently it’s harassment to tell someone their wrong on a public forum

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        9 hours ago

        …reddit is a vibrant community…something something values different viewpoints. /s

        Their moderation is dishonest.

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          they use AI to moderate, so pretty much. and only an admin can unban someone, given how much appeals they get, they are unlikely to see 99% of appeals anyways.

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          Pro fascist and heavily AI moderated now.

          I made two jokes using Australian colloquialisms and the system banned me twice for “threatening violence”.

          And you only get 200-300 characters to try and explain it.

          Wtf.