I modified a image I saw going around last year on Global Switch Day
https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/comments/1ijmkc0/make_the_switch_away_from_meta/
Perhaps we could use it to make people aware of Reddit alternatives etc. If you can imporve upon the image please do so, and feel free to use it.
I just threw it together in KolourPaint in a few min.
Why would you suggest piefed when it has so much biased hard-code in it’s database?
It is clear that Rimu has forced his personal viewpoint and ideology into his code. Despite the claims there has been no evidence that this is the case for Lemmy.
He has coded in deliberatly misleading error messages when you try to upload images he doesn’t like
- You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
- When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
- Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
- Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
- If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
- if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it
- Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
- He has hardcoded which instances are allowed and which arent
- He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar
- He vindictively targeted a single user with code
The code review can be found here
Maybe someone should do a code review for lemmy to see how those tankies have influenced it.
You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long
Okay. So? This is in part anti-spam measures. It’s very specific, but how many users do you imagine this applies to in practice?
When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped
Piefed.social only. Toggleable off.
Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code
Yes, this is to mitigate mass-downvoting. Why is this inherently a problem to you?
Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!
Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.
If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed
AI detection tools. But I’ve seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn’t ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins. So? Admins can turn this off.
if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it
Can be turned off at the instance level.
Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone
No. If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That’s the mismatch at play here.
If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.
He vindictively targeted a single user with code
This has been removed now, and it wasn’t “vindictive” in purpose at all.
Yea sure, if it wasn’t called out how long would those malicious code stayed in?
Thanks for agreeing that there is clear bias inside the piefed code. Who knows if you can acually keep those setting or if a new “update” won’t revert the changes back to what he wants you to see or not see. In addition how do users know any of this? Why is he even doing this to begin with? Are you an alt of the glorious leader?
All that is optional and can be turned off in Admin settings.
Not to mention you’re exaggerating a loot.
Glad you agree that Rimu is putting his own beliefs and ideology into the piefed code, any chance you know of similar issues with the lemmy code? Not if there isn’t any documentation and how do the users know if the social credit score is active on their instance? He intentionally makes it hard to know if your image or comment even applies, it is like this bizarre shadowban for anyone the glorious leader doesn’t like.
Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.
Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.
You could but they disregard votes from any instance that doesn’t fit the glorious leader’s opinion.
Question in the PeerTube, there’s like nothing there so why? Or are you saying we need to influx what’s on there and draw more people to it? Cuz the only way to do that is promise of monetization
Piefed over Lemmy?
Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is? We don’t need to fracture an already fractured community. The Piefed devs should merge the project with the Lemmy devs.
Just learned about Piefed. Why does it exist when we already have Lemmy, which alone is already too small for niche communities to pop up as-is?
Because some people had ideological differences with some of the Lemmy Devs. So instead of using the software as it’s supposed to be used, and simply defederating from instances they didn’t like, they went and made their own software which effectively does the same thing as Lemmy.
I guess I don’t mind that there’s diversity in the Fediverse ecosystem, but at the same time, I feel like the people most adamant about pushing Piefed are doing so, because they want to be in an ideological echo chamber, as opposed to actually furthering the cause of federated social media, and open-source software.
In this case piefed and lemmy are basically compatible, so the communities can have a mix of the two. For example, the OP posted this with piefed, and you replied to it with presumably lemmy. So it may divide up developer effort a bit, but the community isn’t divided.
Well if that’s the case, then I’m fine with it being a thing. I thought they were a competing and thus incompatible platform.
Nope that’s the beauty of the Fediverse. I can reply to this from PieFed (as I’m doing now) and you can do from Lemmy.
Because the Lemmy devs support genocide, love Stalin, and are transphobic.
I miss the innocent days when I thought only right-wingers could be transphobic.
Can you expand on this for a newbie?
The two devs Nutomic and Deslanies are pro-Russia anti-Ukraine tankies.
One has a GitHub where he posts all his mind numbing theory and goes on about how the Uyghurs aren’t undergoing a genocide or Tiananmen Square never happened.
The other has been caught multiple times making transphobic comments and just generally not giving a shit if transgender people are victims.
Together with some other equally bad people they make up a trio of instances commonly referred to as the “tankie triad” (lemmygrad.ml, Lemmy.ml, and Hexbear.net) where they ban everyone who says critical things about Russia/China and generally push propaganda.
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That’s open source for you. The biggest issue for things gaining traction is a million projects that all do the same thing “better”. Look at Linux, if people are curious about “switching to Linux” all it takes is one comment thread somewhere to confuse then enough to bail on the idea.
That’s more a community and presentation problem than a fragmentation problem. If people could agree on objective criteria for recommending Linux distros to newbies, it wouldn’t be so intimidating to them.
Nobody criticizes Ford or Toyota for having “too many options” when they sell cars because they present those options as complementary and people see the variety as a good thing. Linux distros are often presented as competing products, even though for most of them that’s not the case.
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Literally moved yesterday from reddit when I got banned because I angrily pointed out some fascist was parroting Trump/Russian talking points. Apparently it’s harassment to tell someone their wrong on a public forum
…reddit is a vibrant community…something something values different viewpoints. /s
Their moderation is dishonest.
they use AI to moderate, so pretty much. and only an admin can unban someone, given how much appeals they get, they are unlikely to see 99% of appeals anyways.
Reddit has a pro-fascist problem. Calling them out will get you banned.
Pro fascist and heavily AI moderated now.
I made two jokes using Australian colloquialisms and the system banned me twice for “threatening violence”.
And you only get 200-300 characters to try and explain it.
Wtf.
80% the people on TT, YT and IG are there to follow content creators that are only on those platforms to make money.
Until creators can easily make money on Fediverse platforms, they’ll always play second fiddle to closed platforms that market and share profits, no matter how crappy the returns are.
This sounds like an excellent feature. Fuck people trying to make money I wanna post stupid memes.
fucking awesome for Lemmy, kinda bad for video that takes 40 hour workweeks to produce.
Maybe it’s just me, but the influencer type content creators are part of what I’m fleeing from in the mainstream social media options. The internet is better without them. The gamification and monitization leads to enshittification. Reddit really started going to shit when the same people’s posts were always on the front page, and then you had the same people modding and gaming their communities to push it. I personally would hate if that happened to fediverse alternatives.
I don’t really care that much about influencers, the fake outrage and fake indignation. I want to watch people play games I can’t afford and don’t have time to dedicate to playing. And I don’t want to watch it live, I want to start it when I feel like it and stop it when I’m busy. I want some astrophysics news, some people cooking some shit. All those people are solely there because they can afford to stop their day jobs and make something interesting. I want to see some great scott and some tom scott.
The ideal is people doing it just because they can, but how many people have the financial means for that? I’d say another reason for Reddit going to shit is all the people wanting to express themselves somehow, but only having a little bit of time to type something out on their phones and not enough to put thought or research into what they are saying. Streamers, youtubers etc. put a lot of work and practice into making something someone might consider good, and a lot of that is only possible because they get paid and so don’t have to get another full time job that removes any time for creative pursuits.
This. There are alternative video hosting platforms; none of them are really alternatives to YouTube itself until the content creators also move.
This is a big thing I’ve been thinking about with Youtube. People clearly have problems with it. But they’re so locked in that they feel they can’t move to another platform.
I don’t even think they creators need to make a full jump for Peertube to grow. But having content Cross-posted, and for creators to go “and if you want an alternative to YouTube, I’m also on PeerTube” would go a long way.
Floatplane in particular seems promising, but between them and viva plus, they really outline how expensive it is to try to do it Youtube style. But then you have things like odysee where they just barely monetize, and you see what hot trash that brings in.
It’s a hard nut to crack.
Then we can get new creators and a new kind of community.
Something different, can still grow and be beautiful.
checks the age of peertube and the almost complete lack of interesting content
is it gonna start soon? It’s almost a decade old and there’s nothing interesting at all outside of a couple Linux people.
https://video.echelon.pl/c/ua_war_videos/videos is good. And there’s interesting stuff about urban development.
This video, as others published by the same person, a is good: https://video.canadiancivil.com/videos/watch/30b3139b-070c-45f5-823e-dae3f82efdd4
There are more in my saved videos, but these seemed the best things to select out now.
@rumba This is where we need to showcase things like Patreon and other ways of people making money from people who truly enjoy there work, pay people not corporations.
now go convince all those creators making a living that have both youtube and patreon money coming in to post on a free only alternative and just go to patreon income.
I know it’s not as simple as that, but creators are annoyed of these platforms, mirroring your content on the Fediverse is easy through PeerTube and having ‘uncensored’ or less restricted videos be uploaded onto PeerTube can help.
it’s super easy to get the content on to peer tube, just not financially sound.
Honestly, the fact they complain about the platforms all the time while doing nothing to leave those platforms what-so-ever just feels like another manipulation tactic like clickbait titles and thumbnails.
As someone who creates stuff myself, I know how it is, It’s hard to move away from the platforms when there’s so many more people that see’s your content on them.
I wish I could get half the people that get to see my content on PeerTube but sadly as of the moment it’s not the case.
Small creators, sure. The huge ones with millions of subscribers, tho? If they left, their audience would follow them.
Users are trapped by the network effect and a desire for ease of use over anything else.
The corporate alternatives will always be an easier sell.
Twitter > Bluesky
Instagram > Upscrolled
TikTok > RedNote
Reddit > no corporate alternative
YouTube > no corporate alternative
Discord > no corporate alternativeTo get the average user, you don’t just have to convince them to leave Twitter, you have to convince them to leave corporate social media and all of their friends that still use it.
You have to convince them to accept additional inconvenience and complexity (@usernames and @instancenames?) in exchange for no direct, tangible benefit. (We know it’s worth it, but the average user doesn’t know and doesn’t care.)
The people who could handle that are already here. Adoption going forward will be (at best) a slow trickle until we reach some level of critical mass.
Why people don't leave Reddit
Reddit has the advantage of years of community-built knowledge, and it’s a “one-stop shop”. Looking for the gaming community? Go to reddit, type in gaming, it’ll be in the top 3, if not the top 10.
Go to the threadiverse, and you have to run the gauntlet of servers (what’s an instance?), deferated instances (why can’t I see XYZ?), and 20 communities with similar names (which gaming community is the “real” one?). The switching cost is too high for most as long as Reddit still exists.
Why people don't leave Discord
Discord is easy to set up, and they’re digging their claws into game dev by making it easy to monetize communities (enshittification, here we come!).
RevoltStoat isn’t federated, so each server is segregated from the others. As they grow, users will centralize for the sake of convenience. My bet is they either sell out or remain a niche alternative.Element is (still) too complicated and unreliable. Audio sharing is inconsistent (no audio streaming on desktop screenshare, mics won’t work, etc). Video calls aren’t fully implemented.
Why people won't leave YouTube
No one can match YouTube’s sheer scale. They have billions of videos and billions of users. Their monetization system means that creators are identified to create quality content for the platform.
By contrast, PeerTube’s best content is often mirrors or backups of content from other platforms. PeerTube is a great backup, but without monetization to incentivize creators, it’s not a real alternative.
It’s a marathon not a sprint, hopefully we’ll slowly but surely chip away at it.
As your post highlights UX is everything, hopefully the Fediverse can get as good UX as the main platforms
20 communities with similar names (which gaming community is the “real” one?)
On this one, I agree with them. Network effects do not go well with splittism. And yet it’s hardly surprising we’re here given the ills of contemporary society: narcissism, snowflakery, identitarianism, intolerance for contradiction. For every subject there must be ten separate communities (AKA echo chambers, bubbles) so that nobody has to see anything that they might disagree with.
I’m caricaturing, of course. But this issue is real. Given the political orientation here, it probably affects the fediverse more than corporate social media. And whatever the wrongs and rights of the subject, it is not helping the cause of attracting newcomers.
On Piefed you get the most active communities in search (using similar metrics/ranking systems as reddit), it makes a lot more sense than on Lemmy which ranks search by sub numbers as opposed to MAU/WAU (so you get a lot of dead communities as #1 on the Lemmy WebUI).
If you sort by ‘Top Month’ Lemmy will rank it by MAUs.
Not if you do a search for a specific topic/keyword.
You can’t sort the table of results by column and the “sort type” dropdown doesn’t function cleanly.
Although this might be tied the darkly-compact theme I am using.
Useful to know.
My god, thank you for putting the names under the logos. I’ve seen too many people just put the logos without any text because it’s “clean”, but then the viewers have no idea what to search for lol
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Should’ve put Twitter under the X logo lol
I don’t feel like loops is ready for this exposure. Not yet.
If folks can’t install it through the regular stores or even f droid then it may risk always being the complicated and nerdy alternative.
Kind of like Linux has problems getting out of the very techy reputation that it used to have
Agreed. I know you can technically browse tiktok on PC in a browser, but realistically that is not really how people interact with it.
As long as Loops doesn’t have a phone app, it is not a TikTok replacement.
Piefed? Wasn’t the replacement Lemmy?
PieFed has more features and can do everything Lemmy can. There are many things you can do in Reddit but not on Lemmy, but most of those are possible on PieFed.
A user migrating to PieFed is more likely to stay than a user migrating to Lemmy, because they won’t have a feeling that there are familiar features lacking. You don’t have flairs, multireddits (a.k.a. feeds), polls, events, personal notes on users, or notifications on new posts/comments on Lemmy, but on PieFed you do.
These are like 2 sides of one coin. PieFed is basically a very good modification of Lemmy with its own advantages and problems.
There’s a few different options. There’s also Mbin and a couple others that I couldn’t name off the top of my head.
Yes, but if you try to recommend people to use Mbin you have to explain why they have to call shitposts in meme communities “articles” in “magazines”.
wtf? you mean reddit -> lemmy right?
PieFed = Lemmy but better. (In my opinion)
They share the same content, but PieFed has more features and better UX.
I’m typing this from PieFed right now
PieFed is just a Lemmy instance, no?
Nope, it’s its own thing. It’s federated, so you can view piefed content on lemmy and vice versa, but it’s a separate platform built in a different language by someone else. I like it better mainly because the lemmy devs are transphobes who are fond of the idea of mass murdering their political opponents.
It’s a different software stack, both server and client. But it uses the same protocol as Lemmy for federation (same story with kbin/ mbin.) so all those talk to eachother.
Its a similar base but distinct in feature set and backend.
Piefed is a perfectly fine alternative to Reddit.
It could also be lemmy/piefed since both are interoperable.
RIGHT?
What’s with Piefed? Isn’t it just another Lemmy instance?
PieFed is a different software. Lemmy is written in Rust and has a certain set of features.
PieFed is a newer project, written from scratch in Python, by completely different people. It includes Lemmy’s features and shows the same posts as Lemmy, but has additional features such as polls, events, feeds (which are the same thing as multireddits on Reddit), emoji reactions, flairs, notifications for new comments coming for some specific post or new posts coming in some specific community, messaging with Mastodon users, and some other stuff that fails to come to my mind right now :)
There are several PieFed instances: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
I’m sometimes using Mbin, but everything that is good about it, is also good in PieFed. It’s been nice that Mbin has support for following Mastodon with the same account you use for following the Forumverse, but since some of Mastodon’s features are unsupported, I still find it more comfortable to just browse Mastodon separately. Quote posts are not shown properly, for example. Also, pictures in comments in Forumverse are shown as links.
I find Mbin much nicer than Lemmy, but PieFed even nicer. For now, at least. Nobody knows if Mbin suddenly invents some killer feature :)
can it have an old reddit skin like lemmy?
Different platform/software, same protocol (ActivityPub).
No Lemmy?
PieFed > Lemmy (In my opinion)
I switched to PieFed a while ago, it’s the same thing but better (IMO)
It also doesn’t have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy, and the UX is a lot better (IMO)It also has quite a few nice features that Lemmy lacks. Try out both, see which you like.
It also doesn’t have any of the controversy that comes with Lemmy
Oh you sweet summer child.
They’re just hard coding keywords to limit reach of usauthoritarianism and queer community.
https://fedia.io/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/3230397/-/comment/13562251
You’ll need to login to view content, because they got the original post deleted but it’s still cached on fedia.
From what I remember it was about some discover feed feature or something and they tried to curate it a bit, remove greentexts and stuff that had a ton of posts or something.
It was an anti meme feature that has since been removed on request. The PieFed devs are very open to the community and act lighting fast.
Meanwhile people have been asking Lemmy for a working block function for years and they refuse. And let’s not forget the hardcoded front page banners Lemmy puts on all instances begging for donations to do who knows what as it never updates.
Recommend a mobile app for it?
I use Voyager, it’s great. https://getvoyager.app/
Create your account first on PieFed then login to voyager, there are onbording steps that the mobile app doesn’t yet have.
One of the reasons I like PieFed more is because of good UX, like onbording
Damn. Trashing Lemmy on Lemmy.
A tradition brought over from Reddit, where people were constantly shitting on Reddit hah
In a way yes, because this post is in a community running on a Lemmy instance. But at the same time: The user was did not use Lemmy to write the Lemmy trashing :)
(And Lemmy is good. It’s just, PieFed is so much better!)
If that’s trashing, most debates I’ve seen would be bloodbaths. e.e"
Irony aside, if someone is politely criticized, what seems to be what the OP did, and the receiver sees it as a problem, the receiver shouldn’t be a public figure.
The person you’re replying to is actually coming here from Piefed, à la the magic of the fediverse.
That’s freedom.
If you’re on mobile you probably won’t really notice much of a difference, the mobile apps are yet to implement the new features.
Mlem is doing a pretty good job of adding features as their apis become available. I have a feeling the next TestFlight will have polls added.
Please elaborate. What’s better on Piefed?
Some additional features that PieFed has:
- You can create posts with polls.
- Crossposts shows comments from everywhere that something is crossposted to (organized into their own sections)
- Feeds for combining multiple communities into one.
- You can blur images with spoiler tags instead of having to use NSFW.
- You can tag posts and then filter down posts based on those tags within a community.
- You can set a time/date for when something gets posted.
That’s just what I can think of off the top of my head. Otherwise a more complete list can be found here: https://join.piefed.social/features/
Awesome! Definitely need to check that out.
Best feature, a working block feature.
It has more features than Lemmy atm, such as custom feeds, flairs or tags or whatever you call them, community moving, etc. (Some of which will also come to Lemmy in v1.0.0): https://join.piefed.social/features/
Since it uses Python and not Rust, it can be developed faster* => faster development and more first time contributions.
Of course it isn’t perfect, it has its downsides as any other software. You might also find it more attractive if you don’t like the Lemmy devs’ political views.
Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.
Though it is a bit opinionated, it’s good to have another alternative in the threadiverse.
Whatever happened to kbin -> mbin? That was another early threadiverse alternative, but I don’t hear much about it anymore.
Mbin is not as popular as Lemmy or Piefed, so nobody talks about it. Even before Piefed started being popular, Kbin was still not that popular compared to Lemmy in the past nor Piefed right now (might be an exaggeration).
With the Kbin lead dev, Ernest, not being active enough (due to medical reasons), the community forked Kbin, which is what we know today as Mbin.
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1383#issuecomment-1999046
Mbin still exists https://fedidb.com/software/mbin
although the biggest instance, fedia.io, no longer allows anonymous viewing, which is kind of a shame
How does one “move” to piefed? Do I keep my subscriptions and everything tied to my account?
You pick a piefed server and create an account there. You can transfer subscriptions, but that is not something i have done. Your content posted by your .world account stays with that account however.
As someone who had to jump ship more than 3 times, I keep saying to think of their accounts as disposable because we don’t know if we picked right or when/if the mods/admins/hosts will go crazy.
I started on .world and quickly realized I wanted a smaller instance. So I moved to .ee and sopuli, then when .ee went down I decided to not limit myself to a single instance. I do not have as many accounts as cm02 does, 4 total I think. But only use 3 of them much.
Adding to the thread of account redundancy and backups based on personal experiences…
I started I think it was on .ml or .world, quickly found kbin.social and preferred it, it died and I didn’t have a culture of backing up accounts, then I moved to lemm.ee and I kinda forgot to make a backup in the grace period before it died (oopsie) but at least had been hoarding on RSS feeds so not all was lost, then found Mbin was a thing, then found about external RSS’s and searching for fediverse links for pulling external posts.
Adjacent to external RSS’s, also found out when an instance goes poof, the community/group/magazine keeps propagating, just as a derelict one. So while it’d be a moderation hell, at least it’s somewhat preserved.
So moral of the story, there are a few ways to back stuff up, and thus, adding to the choir, please do use them.
And an addendum, PieFed also has external RSS feeds by default, so for example, piefed.social provides their own RSS feed for !fediverse@lemmy.world.
I would recommend exporting your settings just in case. I was using an instance that kind of vanished for a week and then returned, but with my user account completely gone 😱
It’s nice that you can just import your settings from a file on your own hard drive and continue from basically where you left.
I lost my piefed.ee account too. I have my subscriptions backed up manually, but it would probably be a good idea to export, then save it in Bitwarden.
You can export settings which includes subscriptions from your original account and import them into piefed.
Same candy, different wrapper.
Seconded, and using Interstellar on Android.
what features are worth the increased censorship tools?
Not sure what you’re talking about, but I’d rather support a platform not run by tankie morons. I’ve just been too lazy to make the switch yet.
You can be pretty sure anyone with 1488 or even just 88 in their user name is a nazi, for example.
…what if I was born in '88 and it’s just my default ‘seasoning number’?
You might want to look into another number.
Fuck that, nazis don’t just get to own numbers. Drown out their noise, make their dogwhistles meaningless.

What censorship tools?
user reputation scores
Lots of people like piefed more than Lemmy. I haven’t tried it much yet.
You know that piefed.world exists? Its admins are the same people that are also admins of your current home instance, lemmy.world.
I’m aware, I just haven’t tried it much.
Its fun. Honestly though, we are so similar its like choosing apple or cherry pie. It comes down to preference.
Fediverse means lemmy/piefed/etc…etc… can thrive and we all have a better experience.
And that’s the magic.
Fuck lemmy and its tankies
Please note that I am not referring to specific instances like lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.
I know, but you know who is developing lemmy, right? Wonderful people like @dessalines@lemmy.ml and @nutomic@lemmy.ml
That’s why I suggest not talking about lemmy anymore and adapt piefed as the name
Imagine being angry at dessalines.
Even tagged them, wow
Your arrogance is beyond words, personally attacking the devs that created and tirelessly maintain the very platform you’re using to write this garbage comment.
Go use reddit, it will align with your worldview much better since it is run by corporations that sell your data for profit, making use of their god given right to “personal freedom” as defined by the CIA, and don’t allow anything left of Mussolini on their platform.
Are you mad that people don’t like tankies spouting RT talking points?
Rt talking points like what, exactly? Half the time I see a lib frothing at the mouth bc they saw an RT link, I go and read it and it’s just outright quoting Ukrainian officials with a source.
You just make no sense. “Stop buying from Amazon if you don’t like Bezos”. Whatever, since you are new, you don’t know yet what you got yourself into with lemmygrad. Enjoy!
Not new, and I’m fine with lemmygrad but thanks for the concern. I’ll make sure to avoid the likes of you instead
Thanks, I guess. You seem like a very nice and reasonable person.
Rich coming from a literal Russian propagandist.
Bold words coming from a supporter of russian genocidal imperialism!
And please don’t play dumb! We both know the overwhelming majority of tankies only speak English and at absolute best may have visited Europe for a week 20 years ago (let alone Cuba or China).
The great majority of the world’s “tankies” aren’t from the Global North but from the Global South and from actually-existing socialist states like China, Vietnam, and Cuba.
Totally!
They don’t look at you and see a demagogue who is roleplaying online, oh no.
It’s funny how you talk big about the “global south” and “actually-existing socialist states” and yet you have a very orientalist and honestly racist worldview.
You think people in Cuba or say Vietnam are idiots who can’t see through basic bullshit.
What are you even talking about?? English is my second language and I lived in Europe almost my entire life. And I visited Cuba, it was nice.
I can tell how much grass you touch based on this comment alone
Brah, “touch grass bla bla” is pretty stale by this point.
Btw, it’s winter in the northern hemisphere!
You did not suggest anything, you came in flying with insults
Oh nooo, I insulted a product which is developed by mentally unstable people, how could I. Forgot that we are in church here, sorry mate
Eh, insulting is fine, insulting without a stated reason is just confusing, gotta give people some context.
To be honest I’m not fine with being insulted by that guy.
Basically the context is this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Gotcha, I assumed it was already known.
Correct, No to Lemmy. :)
Awww… ):
People are fleeing to another close source centralized app that’s not federated. People will use anything but Fediverse. :(
Probably the clearest indicator that the lack of technological literacy in mass market society means that marketing budgets are incredibly effective, and most won’t question the incentives of the platform holder.
It makes sense. There are a lot of topics that just cant be discussed and communities that can’t exist in the fediverse. Mma for example couldn’t move here its to right wing even removing the politics. Even if it was restricted to its own instance it would be defederated. That sucks, I like that fediverse culture is staunchly anti “bad” stuff but i wish there was more tolerance for “bad” instances as long as they kept that behaviour to their own instance.
I wish Peertube had more content, although I may just be actual garbage at finding it.
I recently contacted a content creator at youtue asking if they might also share their content on peertube as they have the rights to do so. Maybe this is a way of getting more content.
Since the videos are already made for yt it shouldn’t be a lot of more work to do for creators.
Take a look over at !peertube@lemmy.world It would be great if more people knew about it and posted/interacted.
Also https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos or join (if you are piefed) here ~fediversevideos@piefed.social
Thank you!
No problem! Enjoy.
This is the issue with fediverse in general: lack of content. I’m sure people can figure out how to join … it’s not any more complicated than joining Bluesky, and that has exploded in growth. Why? Because everybody is on there.
it can be tough to find good stuff on there. I had a personal peertube instance that I had setup but I ended up shutting it down, i rarely used it and couldn’t find a lot of good stuff on there.
found this awesome peertuber, he is super cool: blinmaster@peertube.wtf (its my own channel and i found a place to plug it :3)
Lots of people are upset with the censorship happening on TikTok and are uninstalling TikTok, this image might be useful to show to them.
I wish there were a better name that represents lemmy & piefed. I know “threadiverse” is probably the “correct” name but it’s a bit… shit.
It’s not the best, but I still haven’t seen anything better
I think both names, Lemmy and piefed, are easy to remember. They are no more goofy than any other name, past or present, on the internet.









































