• razzazzika@lemmy.zip
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    Eh, actually trans people ARE mentioned but like, in a creepy ass way talking about how to DO things to them. Like. Its disturbing. No trans person is IMPLICATED in the files however.

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      Came here to say this exact thing. Just goes to show it’s always a liiiiittle worse than you’d expect with these files

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    To be fair Epstein did talk about forcing transition on young boys and raising them as sex slaves. And he was 100% a chaser which came up many times. But trans people were never mentioned as perpetrators of abuse only as victims.

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      Yup, the “democrats are forcibly transitioning your kids” conspiracy theories that conservatives parrot has 100% been coming from the fact that the billionaires wanted to do exactly that. They wanted to forcibly transition children to keep as sex slaves.

      There are multiple documents in the files confirming this… They even go on to justify it by saying that they’d be doing the children a service, because it would allow them to make more money as prostitutes or porn stars after they’re too old for Epstein’s clients.

      There’s a weird branch of conservatism that is really into forced feminization as a kink. That’s why trans women are vilified, but femboys are somehow okay with many conservatives. To the conservatives who are into forced feminization, the femboy is just playing into that kink, and they can tell themselves that it’s forced. They don’t see it as gay, (which would be wrong, as conservatives hate the evil gays), because it’s forcing someone to be feminine instead. But trans women take it too far for those conservatives, because it removes the “I’m forcing them to do this by being more masculine” power dynamic that they enjoy with forced feminization. With trans women, it’s very clearly something that they’re doing to themselves, not something that is being forced upon them.

      But with the billionaires, that latter part isn’t a problem. They literally could force kids to be trans. So it just plays even harder into the forced feminization kink that so many conservatives have… It’s the natural end stage of the kink for them. Trans girls don’t break their illusion of power, because the power is not an illusion when you’re that rich.

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        Holy shit, you put into words what I’ve been feeling but haven’t quite been able to put my finger on, like something hiding in the periphery even if you try to look at it.

        I’m simultaneously relieved to finally have it out in the open, and disgusted to see it written so plainly. All these people should go Mario Kart with Luigi.

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    This is wrong. Epstein had an email discussing MTF porn and noting the lack of FTM porn out there and considers grooming young boys to be transition to become a new product category for him.

    This is not a joke, by the way.

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      I opened car radio few days ago and fox news was arguing Biden is worse than Epstein because “He let bunch of people in and immigrants’ crimes hurt the kids on a larger scale.”

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      When people says both sides, it is referring to both of them serve capitalistic interests over the general populace. Of course one side is much more blatant to be a fascist than the other.

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        There’s something interesting to note in this comment, but first I’d like to ask you if there’s a country in the world right now you would point to that is doing a better job?

        Edit: Well now. That’s telling.

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      also if a politican on the left is involed in shit, his voters demand an explanatiom from him and if it’s not good they will drop him and demand a trial. trumpist on the other hand now despreratly try to rationalize child rape …

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      If Bernie was implicated, I think it would break any trust I could ever have for a politician again

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    Trump wasn’t a client, was he? He was a full blown accomplice, judging by the overwhelming amount of times he’s mentioned…

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    The truth is Trump and Epstein did have a falling out. It wasn’t because Trump disapproved of what he did. It is because he was in competition with Epstein.

    Trump is a human trafficking chomo who didn’t want Epstein in on his child molesting/blackmail/influence operation.

    Lock him up!

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    According to the Google, and I’m not going to search further despite knowing it’s unreliable, the number for Bill Clinton is about 50 times. Just because the OP didn’t mention him, and also because that’s rookie numbers. Even when you include Trump sucking Bubba’s dick.

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    i’m sick of this. you know what? nothing is going to happen. wanna know why? remember panama papers? thank you for coming to my ted talk

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    So the Italian film, “Saló or the 120 Days of Sodom”, turns out to be correct about the fascists, even if the director, Pier Paolo Pasolini, said it was a metaphor. He was believed to have been killed by fascists because of the director’s anti-fascism.

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      I wish I could upvote this a hundred times. Saló is a genuinely horrific movie, but what Pasolini intended to do with it and why is beyond reproach. I too believe that’s why he was killed, to the point I don’t think there’s really any doubt anymore.

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    Right but those thousands of Trump mentions were Epstein himself saying “why won’t Mr. Trump answer my invitations to the island?” and brainstorming with Elon Musk “how can we get Mr. Trump to come visit the island?” /s