and we could provide all this wonderful socialism everyone here wants, but that’s never actually going to happen

lol they said the same thing about kings and empires…

You should know that you are making a very ideologically based argument, since as far as anyone can tell the self-labelled communist countries through history were degraded into authoritarian dictatorships immediately, and so mislabeled. Cuba is called communist, and while they too slid immediately into authoritarianism, they call themselves socialist.

You seem to be using the word in a colloquial rather than an academic way.

In addition, consider the massive economic war of the last 150 years, exemplified by the CIA-backed murder of a million or so people in Indonesia, to stamp out so-called communism. Pretty tough to get anything going, between the pressures of violence and lies.

“Property” is both a heavily propagandized and culturally variable concept.

Freedom, in both definitions and practices, is heavily affected by the concept of property.

Firstly, property as defined in common usage in the west is a denial of the rights of the many in favour of a single entity. It exists as a loss of freedom in order to provide exclusivity. This is most obvious with land, and the ongoing enclosure and expropriation of the commons. It results in homeless people camped outside of empty homes, and a net loss of freedom.

Further, property as a system can easily enough be swapped out with relational concepts like stewardship and tenure, while giving up some choices to gain others. Earning the right to live on a chunk of land through merit, rather than by debt, is an example. Sharing access to expensive tools, because the employees own the company, also creates a greater amount of freedom.

Generally, people get confused in this discussion about what property is being referred to, and worry about losing their stuff, or chattel. But we’re talking about land and buildings and companies and machinery, big things that don’t make sense for one entity to control.

The harm mentioned here is specifically the freedom to own and use property. Capitalism allows many people this freedom. Losing it would make some people sad.

The core critique of capitalism is that a diminishing number of people enjoy the privileges of the owner class. Concentration of wealth is inevitable when the economy is organized around this principle of unfettered property rights for individuals.

While human society has no inherent need to be based on zero-sum transactions, simping for oligarchs to have any freedom they can buy, just codifies zero-sum outcomes into reality.

One of the more obvious issues to discuss is the balance between rights and freedoms of the person as opposed to the people. You can’t have people shitting upstream in the river, so you curtail shitting rights even on one’s own property, to give even greater freedoms to water drinkers. At what point do your freedoms steal from the freedoms of others?

If we wish to propose a new system, we must also explain what it is, and why it will do less harm and more good

There is a vast array of alternative economic systems proposed over the last century, and much of it can be labelled socialist—it’s a big ask to expect someone to describe a fully realized alternative in a forum comment, when they can just refer to the body of work on the topic.

They aren’t the cure for capitalism the way that traders weren’t the cure for feudalism.

Trees grow from seeds though. Join co-ops wherever possible.

I grow both red skinned, large plums, and red skinned, small apples, and I actually can’t tell from the photo which this is. Need more resolution and to see the bottom.

It’s like living on a busy road. People adjust, while life degrades.

The article addresses this. Data must be fresh to be valuable. Yes old data can be useful, but can it be sold? That’s the main vulnerability to surveillance capitalism that hiding exploits.

Red fleshed apples

Consider this: every record I play has a faint recording of the room, every time it has been played, since no turntable or cartridge is perfectly isolated, and, being diamond rubbing against vinyl, will leave some trace of the room sound behind.

It’s the underlying crux of the entire series, and even Foundation too. The Zeroeth law requires a massive war to develop it and still doesn’t solve the problem.

Natty Natto

More like throwing you the rope and dropping the other end into the water.

Usually just air quotes right. Well since people caught on to the ‘echo’ dog whistle of 3 brackets some racists moved to quotes too. I was just checking, so nvm, don’t let them try to steal that the way they did with the ok hand gesture.

No no, after initial degradation, the battery health levels off and stays around 90% for a long while, generally.

My ICE vehicles are maintained but don’t have the new car fuel efficiency either. I wouldn’t be surprised to find they have lost 15% since they are pretty old.

Recent research shows that batteries are likely to outlast the body of most EVs, if the battery is not abused.

Also, people overestimate the typical daily range used with the primary or secondary vehicles, but even short range EVs cover the average daily drive for most.

Just for Leafs and some of the short range compliance cars like Golfs that don’t have active thermal management of the battery. The old SparkEV batteries are following the expected curve mostly: about 10% loss in the 8yr warranty period, followed by relative plateau of slow degradation mitigated somewhat by its overprovisioning. Hyundai and Kia etc. batteries should be fine, for example.

Telemetry is just as much a problem though.

I bought glasses recently and, like the dork I am, loudly complained about trying to find a pair that didn’t have advertisements in the form of logos on the arms. Since they aren’t discounted as compensation for fluffing their marketing department, and all that.

Clerk said ‘yeah they actually charge more for the stupid name’ and shoppers laughed so people mostly know but comply. The supply chain is perverse, ok. Life is full of struggle so the small ones slide.

Ah, OK then someone needs to tell you that the 3 quotes lately has been used by white supremacists as a dog whistle for jewishness, especially referring to economic control.

How many decades does this restitution take to actually make criminally vile behavior stop? I’m no spring chicken and I’ve been waiting for a long time for a train, it seems, that is just not coming.

You are at the wrong station.

Please folks, don’t confuse justice with policing, or crime prevention.

Restitution, and in general a ‘fixing the wrongs’ approach to justice, is not about prevention, it is about clean up and repairs. How that is done is a whole discussion about details, but we are discussing principles at the moment.

Prevention: a healthy neighbourhood with embedded nurses, social workers, and active mental health services could have caught this kind of shit. Functional education system would have caught it. Also: see economics for causes, aka material conditions.

Punishment: well cruelty is the point, isn’t it? And you get to participate without guilt.

I don’t believe them getting shanked will deter or prevent other child abusers in any way. Different issue.

Examples should be made

Whelp, if deterrence worked the prisons wouldn’t be overflowing. Most murderous bastards are not rational about it.

There is no touchy-feelying this one into anything remotely civilized.

Ah there it is, the rule of law is subject to the Law of the Jungle ethos.

‘They weren’t civilized, why should I be?’ I have explained this issue to toddlers through teens. That is not how it works.

Restitution vs retribution is not touchy-feely FFS. It’s basic ethics. We need more of that in grade school curriculum, along with history.

Most of TFG’s legal troubles are related to financial fraud, especially real-estate related. It’s more projection.