This seems like such a simple thing to me, and yet the US just can’t seem to get it done. What are the issues preventing this?

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    BC/Vancouver just removed it but made it DST year round. My only worry against that is that mornings would be hella dark. For where I live, sunrise in the winter (standard time) is around 7:55AM, meaning that’s crack of dawn first light. Spring forward, so 7:55 becomes 8:55, meaning our first sunlight of the day won’t be until about 9am. Now, our evenings will be a bit longer (sunset is around 4-4:30, so now 5-5:30, but still most people won’t even see sunrise.

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      A lot of people, schoolchildren included, are up way before sunrise anyway, regardless of where we put the clocks.

      Personally, I’m just sick of moving back and forth. I don’t care what we change it to, just stop changing it. Where I live, we get 8 hours of daylight in the winter. Someone is always going to be in the dark sometime, no matter what we set our clocks to.

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      You morning people already have the world scheduled around you. At least let us night owls get to enjoy a sunset in the winter.

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      I used to be in the make-DST-permanent camp because I enjoy it being lighter later. Then I saw a set of US maps illustrating sunrises before 7am and sunsets after 5pm. Permanent DST completely hoses the western areas of the time zones. I can’t in good conscience support that option anymore. Ditch DST altogether, and just make standard time permanent.

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        Yeah in my area standard time would be better. The summer would be a bit more sane, I think sunset can be as late as 10:30 at the peak of summer, so losing an hour isn’t horrible there

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        Yeah I saw a map like that illustrating how which side of your time zone you’re on makes a big difference. I wonder if adding another time zone so they’re all a bit skinnier would help with that aspect of it.

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      4 days ago

      Personally, I’d rather have it dark on the way to work than night before I get home.

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      I live basically on the border on the US side and pray that BC changing will allow WA to change.

      Full DST is better imo. Having light after work/school/the day makes the dark months so much more tolerable. Helps alleviate my SAD partially, personally.

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        The problem is that if you’re far enough North, the days are so short that if you work full time, no amount of clock-adjusting will keep you from either going to work or going home in the dark.

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          Going to work while the sun comes up, and going home after it has gone down feels a hell of a lot worse than the opposite.

          Literally “working the day away”.

          Want to enjoy sunlight? ~~Go fuck yourself. ~~Use your 2 appointed days of the week

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            Yeah given a choice, I’d rather have light after work instead of before. Unfortunately when I lived in Montana, the winter days were so short that I went to work in the dark and came home in the dark. The only light I saw was going outside during lunch break.

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      I just get up later. I don’t get it. The day is the same, just shift when you do things.

      I know in some places in the world they do just that: stores have summer and winter hours. It’s that simple. The clock doesn’t change, your schedule does.

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        That’s how it should be of course. Problem is businesses and companies still follow standard business hours and make their employees show up at the same time no matter if DST is in effect or not.

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      DST shifts make more sense for higher latitude than it does for southern ones. ironically.

      I lived in BC. It did suck to only have like 6 hours of full daylight. All of which were during the workday when you were inside anyway.

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      I wake up between 6 and 7am most weekdays, so the sun coming up at 8 vs 9am makes little difference to me.