What did Thomas Jefferson say about each generation’s struggle for liberty?

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    What is justice?

    There are two justices. social justice and personal justice and they are never the same.

    social justice is the light that shines on the truth of the people.

    personal justice is the personal truth that exposes our inner darkness.

    example: a rapist is caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced to prison. the victims want the rapist to suffer as they suffered. nothing wrong with this, but certainly displays a darkness we often hide.

    What are you willing to sacrifice for broad accountability?

    my freedom, whatever that’s worth these days.

    Are you free?

    is a pig free?

    Is oppression ever warranted?

    yes. oppress the oppressors.

    Are you willing to become inconvenienced for the truth?

    is there any other way?

    How far will you go?

    as far as my spite will carry me.

  • Apytele@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    I would give my life’s savings if you were able to give me 101% certainty that you would turn all Jeff bezos properties that he owns or any company of his owns literally countrywide into homeless shelters and make him live in a 2 bed 2 bath in the suburbs because that would also mean if I lost my job I would have somewhere to go and that’s already more certainty of safety than my life currently has.

  • CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I don’t have any answer to offer other than “We’re likely about to find out”.

    Edit: Sus question from a brand new account, but a good one.

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    2 days ago

    i am genuinely willing to sacrifice my safety, security, and well-being to improve living conditions somewhat. that’s how desperate i feel at this point. my soul tells me i will do whatever is asked of and is necessary, and honestly, i kinda don’t want to know the risks. like a terminally ill patient who doesn’t want to know their expiration date, don’t give me the details of how deadly whatever i do could end up being for me.

  • disregardable@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Thomas Jefferson owned over 600 slaves. You can’t be comfortable in life without people beneath you making your life comfortable.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      You can’t be comfortable in life without people beneath you making your life comfortable.

      Hard disagree.

      There’s more than enough for all of us to be comfortable…

      The problem is a couple thousand people have hoarded the majority of the planets resources.

      The problem is the billionaires, not people getting fucked less than the people getting fucked the most

      Take care of the billionaires, then after redistributing their wealth, we’ll see what else needs to be done. But literally everyone else will be more amenable then than they are now.

      That’s just common sense, keep as many people on your side till the biggest issue is handled.

      • disregardable@lemmy.zip
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        2 days ago

        No matter how you distribute income, it is never going to be comfortable to pick pineapples, slaughter animals, weld metal, repair sewers, or arrest criminals. Comfort is simply not in the job description. Someone has to lose. We can’t all be software developers and artists.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          What?!

          Plenty of people would be willing to contribute some labor towards society…

          You legitimately think if everyone’s needs were met past the limits of basic and I to the “comfortable” range, absolutely no one would want to be productive?

          That is just…

          The most depressing view on humanity I’ve heard in a long time, but I guess Republicans and neoliberals have been making that argument against welfare for decades now. Just weird to see on lemmy

          • disregardable@lemmy.zip
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            2 days ago

            This response is weird. It’s like you ignored what I wrote completely and only wanted to read some completely different stereotypical point.

              • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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                24 hours ago

                Disregardable vs Givesomefucks. You two chose usernames on the opposite ends of apathy and action. That this person engages in performative debate should not be surprising, either they think themselves disregardable or they are telling you upfront what the merit of any response you offer will be.

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                  22 hours ago

                  By that same logic, it would make sense for me to ask you why the coyotes who cut thru my yard do it single file spaced ~30 feet apart…

                  So I’m gonna ask, because it’s fucking weird and I genuinely can’t figure out why them walking out of a bush is like a bunch of clowns getting out of a car, it’s just goes on way longer than possible. That bush can’t hold a dozen coyotes, so are they queuing up on the other side?

                  Is the delay how long it takes to go thru a bush? If so why don’t they just walk around all at once?

                  You’re literally the only back alley coyote I’ve seen capable of human communication, loop me in bro.

    • Nindelofocho@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Imo if comfort was binary then that might be true. Comfort is a spectrum though and comfort is dynamic. People sacrifice some comfort to be more comfortable later. That sacrifice might make others more comfortable now or may make things more comfortable in the future. People have to consent to these sacrifices and be adequately compensated. Anything else is exploitation of some degree