It’s unacceptable that people like Jeff Bezos exist.
If you do actually believe that, then why not do something about it?
This type of comment just comes off as ball fondling the billionaires and makes you look pathetic.
What part exactly? The ones calling to put words into action?
The ball parts. The testicles.
The insinuation you made was that Bernie fucking Sanders isnt doing enough you insufferable chud
Why don’t you do something about it?
Hear me out, but nobody should become homeless or starve bcz they don’t have a job.
We always frame this in terms of “tHiNk oF aLl tHe jErBs” that will be lost, instead of, why the fuck are we letting these billionaires hoard all the wealth when we already live in a poat scarcity society.
People should not be starving when there’s plenty of food to go around.
The fact that people can’t stop using this shitty ass marketplace is proof we are doomed. Its NOT THAT FUCKING HARD to buy ANYWHERE ELSE . i have not used Walmart or amazon in over a decade. Never really used it before either because I knew their plan. Destroy all other businesses so there is nowhere to go, take over the entire market, then sell shit product for more while being the only employer left. Tale as old as time.
The stupidity of humans makes us deserve this honestly. Now pair this with people who won’t get off their ass to vote. To fill in a bubble on paper. 100% doomed, dont even try to fix it.
The stupidity of humans makes us deserve this honestly. Now pair this with people who won’t get off their ass to vote.
They’ve been cutting education in US for past half a century. They’ve been moving income from working class to billionaire class. They’ve propagandized the blame so well that even you blame your peers or poor people instead of the rulingnclass who have planned for this longer than you’ve been alive.
I’m not blaming poor people. If anything they are smarter about what’s happening vs the upper middle class .
I was more complaining about the stupidity of upper white rich class folks listening to fox news and Joe rogan, with zero critical thought, who got us into this shit even worse.
But yes, its 100% the billionaires fault. I see no way to undo their damage unfortunately. As you said, the lack of education and brainwashing has people firmly in their wrong beliefs and they won’t change easily, if ever.
Now we wait until the collapse
The fact that people can’t stop using this shitty ass marketplace is proof we are doomed.
“Well, I don’t shop at Amazon for ethical reasons.”
“Oh, you don’t buy any common commercial goods?”
“No no no. I just buy them ethically.”
“Where do you get your ethically sourced consumer goods?”
“Target and Walmart”
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The stupidity of humans makes us deserve this honestly.
Bitch, I just need a mop to mop my floor so its not sticky. Where do I get a new mop? Point me to the place to buy a fucking mop that doesn’t involve some asshole on the internet heckling me over it.
Yeah, when I take an inventory of the businesses I frequent and follow this train of thought, it ultimately boils down into the line “No ethical consumption under capitalism” I’ve read before.
If it’s a company we’ve heard of, it inevitably has an entire collection of rich psychopaths running and owning it. Local small businesses can be better, or they can be run by hateful bigots and/or small-time psychopaths that charge twice as much.
I just try to find the reasonable balance between trying to reduce harm and not support the worst of the worst, while also participating in society.
If you can’t buy a broom without using amazon, youre gonna have a hard time with life in general.
Also in my comment I stated I don’t use Walmart. Rarely ever go to target.
And yes. All consuming is unethical, a slave made the phone or computer you are using this moment. However, that doesn’t mean we need to use amazon and keep directly enriching billionaire scum. How is that so hard ? Are people lazier or dumber than they used to be now in that they can’t search for 2 seconds to find a broom? How about a damn garage sale ???
Used is far better than new in a massive amount of cases. Americans are addicted to shiny new plastic because they’re brainwashed idiots that think they need new everything.
The problem isn’t Amazon, which employer millions of people and provides services that people obviously love. In fact, many cottage businesses have found success on Amazon, as well as many authors being able to publish their books with the permission of the publishing industry, and much more. Why should we get rid of all that? None of that is the problem.
The problem is profit. If Amazon employees made double or triple their salaries, treated them respectfully, and had great benefits, nobody would complain about them. They’d probably be lauded as a great company.
What’s causing it is Bezos’ untreated OCD, which manifests as uncontrolled compulsive financial hoarding. He sucks so much profit out of the business, that it severely hurts the employees, and the company’s corporate image. If he could figure out how to live below his means, he’d find out that he really doesn’t need enough money for a million lifetimes, he could share that money with his employees, make his customers more comfortable buying from Amazon, and they’d make even more money than they were.
Or America could do what they do with uncontrolled hoarders whose collections start to have a negative affect on those around them - we get them mental help, and give all those cats to new families. That’s what we should do with Bezos. Comfine him a mental hospital until his mania for profit subsides, and give all his neglected money to people who will appreciate it. Or nationalize Amazon, and run it as a government held non-profit, with the proceeds going to fund social programs.
The problem isn’t Amazon, which employer millions of people and provides services that people obviously love.
That’s the thing; Amazon didn’t pull out its success out of nowhere; the consumer made it what it became. Want to have a version of Amazon with healthcare and job security? Then build it yourself. That won’t work because of the customer wanting the cheapest stuff possible? Here’s the crux of the problem. There won’t be corporate reform without consumer reform.
You missed my point. The solution isn’t to let them continue to be bad, until someone goes into competition and beat them with a more moral business model. The moral model can’t succeed when they are competing with someone who is exploiting and manipulating the system in bad faith.
The solution is to create a business environment where the moral business succeeds, while the immoral business struggles, and eventually decides to follow the rules in order to succeed, or close.
In fact, many cottage businesses have found success on Amazon
Amazon Let Its Drivers’ Urine Be Sold as an Energy Drink
Love my cottage businesses.
What’s causing it is Bezos’ untreated OCD, which manifests as uncontrolled compulsive financial hoarding.
I think there’s an element of truth to this. But trying to medicalize what is, at the end of the day, just economic autocracy presumes that there’s a person who could do Bezos’s job (such that it ever even existed) “ethically”. I don’t really think this person exists. Once you consolidate an abundance of authority in a few hands, people just behave like this because it yields immense benefits and costs them nothing.
America could do what they do with uncontrolled hoarders whose collections start to have a negative affect on those around them - we get them mental help
This sounds like you’re talking about Trust Busting.
He needs to get Luigi’d.
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I’m not renewing my Amazon subscription this year (a decision made last year after I forgot when I renewed). Also no longer buying from Amazon unless ABSOLUTELY no other option, costs be damned. Just yesterday I was looking at Ubiquiti products and noticed Amazon had for sale at $309 and Ubiquiti had them $99/unit. Obvious answer. Fuck greedy ass amazon.
FYI, if you accidentally renew, you can cancel and get a prorated (or complete, if you do it quickly) refund., particularly if you don’t use it.
600k are you serious? How is there ever going to be an unfilled job opening ever again
I’m happy that I have only contributed very, very little to that - years ago (maybe 10+) I bought a year’s subscription for their cloud drive - which at the time was I think very good value, because it allowed unlimited photos (including raw files). Needless to say they axed that plan shortly after. Other than that I don’t think I’ve ever bought a physical item from there and I hope this stays that way.
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
Over-accumulation of wealth by an individual should be seen as an indicator that the system is broken.
Pure capitalism has an implied responsibility after one becomes overwhelmingly successful, they would be inclined to reinvest the excess into society. Donations to schools, social programs, not-for-profits, and so on. And higher wages for the workers who made you immensely successful, better benefits, higher quality of life overall to incentivize people wanting to work for you, and if all successful companies did this, trickle-down economics would be real.
In unregulated corrupted capitalism, however, that excess instead is used to lobby government to make even more successful, shaping laws to shield companies from labor rights, destroy unions, surpress minimum wage, dodge taxes, and deflect hidden production costs like environmental pollution or outsourced slave labor. They use their economic leverage to remove legal responsibilities they have participating in society, while at the same time leaning on society’s resources like roads, police, emergency services, and infrastructure more than any individual ever could. Imagine how successful Bezos would be if taxpayers didn’t provide roads for his deliveries.
It’s all a big game of monopoly to them and at the end of the game, one guy has all the money and everyone else is bankrupt, in poverty, jail, or just trying to collect $200 a week to not starve. And then new generations are born into the game wherever their parents were at on the board, with no game reset. People wonder why the birth rate is dropping.
At the end of the game though our pieces all go into the same box.
The thing that’s unacceptable is not that manual labor gets replaced by robots. That’s a good thing.
The thing that’s unacceptable is that Jeff Bezos can amass such wealth and that you don’t get a basic income and housing without needing to work for it.
MET gala like last years MET was so obvious it was a distraction from billionaire caused problems, because they make RICH people do outlandish things. most platforms are saying “ooh look at rich people showing off how rich they are”. he has a 750mil superyacht. and married a plastic surgeried alien.
He’s my favorite example to bust the “smarts and hard work” myth of billionaires. He had parents with good, union jobs that allowed him to go to Princeton, where he dropped out of a physics major (into CS) because it was too difficult. The school’s connections, though, got him a job at a hedge fund, where he was assigned to study the investment potential of e-commerce on the nascent Web. He saw the enormous potential, but was so bad at his job that he couldn’t convince the other executives that they wanted some of that money. So he left the job, got a large loan from his parents, and started Cadabra in a garage he rented in a conscious nod to Silicon Valley mythos. Oh, Cadabra? He was going to call it that, but his lawyer convinced him to go with his second choice of name, because that one sounds too much like cadaver. The company was profitable in a month, and then he used all manner of dirty tricks to run the competition out of the market.
Nothing in his story indicates anything but dumb luck of randomly being the one in the right time and place to succeed. If it was smarts and hard work, there were hundreds of other e-commerce contenders who put in at least as much as he did.
While others put in more work than he, and certainly he didn’t work as hard as most any minimum wager that tends to work the hardest, your example at least showed he put in some effort and acumen, so it wouldn’t be my favorite example to bust the myth.
Musk I think is even better since basically his entire fortune builds upon just luck and conning folks without ever putting in useful work. He had a leg up from rich family, then was so weird about his dot-com that he put a PC in a big plastic thing to make it ‘look like a supercomputer’ and despite how utterly amateur hour it was… It worked on Compaq and he got millions for a site that never got off the ground. Then he took his millions and worked to cofound the first X.com, which was getting beat by a competitive product Paypal. Somehow the owners of Paypal despite winning agreed to a merger and agreed to put Musk in charge. And he boffed it hard and was forced to step down because his incompetence was destroying Paypal. But he still had a huge stake so when eBay came knocking, despite Musk doing nothing but screw up the company, he got the most money from that transaction. To this day some people will describe him as ‘the’ founder of Paypal, despite all this. Then with Tesla, he saw a company doing something cool with electrifying a Lotus and wanted in. Then after being in he threw a hissy fit that he should be a founder, despite the company existing prior to his coming along. Also plenty of word that Elon’s first round of actually getting things designed somewhat the way he wanted was the Cybertruck… and well…
It’s hard to overstate how much Amazon has changed the economy. It has quite possibly the longest and most consequential game of enshittification in play. It’s already taken over a giant chunk of the retail market and destroyed local businesses in ways Wal-Mart and their like could only dream of.
It’s brought worker exploitation to Gilded Age levels. And there’s no doubt the ultimate goal is to create a monopoly over retail, so that they will later dictate prices. They’re already redirecting popular products to their own cheap, shittier versions in the searches they control. Their long term goal, like all tech companies that touch real world commerce, is to “disrupt” the system that worked for everyone before them, aka what’s left of competition in late stage capitalism, and replace it with monopoly.
Bezos is a would-be feudalist lord of retail in a technofascist hellscape. Peter Thiel will handle the surveillance. And they’ll all ride out the apocalypse on wherever they relocated Epstein’s island.
When I buy things online these days, much rarer than in previous - I deliberately avoid Amazon. For all the reasons you said, and a handful of others lol!
At least half the time the product comes in an Amazon box anyway. I think you might be understating how successful Amazon has been at reshaping things.
“b-b-but Amazon creates JOBS!! Jeff Bezos DESERVES that money!!!”
- Guy who doesn’t understand that jobs “created” by Amazon are jobs destroyed elsewhere by its monopoly
It’s inevitable that people like Jeff Bezos exist. It’s called capitalism. The System is working as expected.
