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      Hey now, don’t be fooled by the rocks that she’s got. She’s still Jenny from the block. Used to have a little, now she has a lot.

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    I’m sorry, but you should be fucking ashamed to take a handout when you’re a goddamned multimillionaire, music star, and movie star. Not a millionaire once and just barely (if taxes don’t go up and you don’t have a medical emergency), but many millions of dollars. Fucking pathetic.

    I’d respect her more if her kids got into school because she paid for two new libraries. At least then someone would benefit.

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      We should be ashamed for giving Lopez the light of day on this site - Shit like this is how Reddit got shittier. I survived over 17 years on that gods-forsaken website and have seen its slow decline. Posts like these were a part of it.

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    I would ask why they would even apply? Have you no honor; you are stinking rich, there is no possible situation where you would need the scholarship…so why even apply.

    The only way that this works in my head is if these are the initial recipients of a new perpetual scholarship from the “Lopez foundation” or similar. Thus paying it forward for generations; rather than just a rich person pissing contest saying look my kids with the best tutors in the world beat out everyone else for another scholarship.

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      Some parents won’t pay for their children’s schooling on principle. I’ve known a few people who come from wealthy families but they didn’t get any financial support for college/university

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      When I went to college one of the forms I filled out applied me to a whole bunch of scholarships. Some I very much wasn’t qualified for. I assume they had a better high school counselor than I did and did something similar. Your last point is generally how non means tested scholarships work.

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        When I did the dance, my counselor had enough scholarships and grants to pay my ride… Second month of classes my financials went tits up and for my field trip to the offices we found out the two big ones had an overlap issue and please sign here for student loans. Fuck the system.

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    Free and equal access to education should be a basic right and cornerstone of every society.

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    Kinda dumb for rich people to brag about education when education is directly tied to wealth.

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      Yes, wealth allows for easier education. But it’s also just because wealthy people tend to be more educated because that’s how they got wealthy (Lopez example notwithstanding). They value education and prioritize it.

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          Yes. That’s the notwithstanding part. That said, I think someone involved in any pop star’s success is smart and educated where it counts.

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            I think you missed the joke there buddy.

            Yes, of course she was advised by some pretty smart people. But at the end of the day, she had the product they needed to sell.

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            another dumb take. they just hire actual smart people to analyze the situation and data.

            anyone with $$$$$ to throw around can do that.

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              Yes. But they have to be clever enough to get to the point where they have enough money to throw around. And they have to wise enough to figure out who to hire, who to trust and then how to actually use the information. Of course it’s sometimes dumb luck, I’m sure. But either way, there’s then educated people making good money in the deal, which makes my point as well.

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          Some of them might be - they know how to make money off idiots by acting idiotic, but in an very controlled specific way.

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          No, it’s an indicator of education levels. But cause and effect there is blurred. Intelligence can be masked by lack of education.

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              Well it hurts to suggest it, and he certainly seems like a complete moron. But I really don’t see how his bullying and inheritance could get him as far as it did without some sort of … something.

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        They value education and prioritize it.

        No, they value the idea of education, and the image of them that it projects.

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          Honestly, that’s exactly an uneducated view of being educated. It’s really not about image projection, except where it comes to getting a job and / or financing for business. An educated person learns the actual value of real education. An uneducated person sees the educated as elite snobs who have a better life quality; but this better quality of life comes in part from the education.

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            art is full of nepo babies at the moment and none of them create anything that’s going to be as enduring as the worst michael jackson song.

            really dumb take, no offense.

            if they were ‘intelligent’ they’d be able to do something besides grift. even a homeless bum could grift in the capitalist system if you gave them a few mil and a 10 minute lecture.

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              If I said ‘intelligent’, sorry I didn’t mean that. I’m talking about ‘education’. And no I think giving an uneducated person a couple of million would usually lead to them losing it pretty quickly.

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        No, Donald Trump is proof that you can just buy yourself a degree. That has nothing to do with being educated and everything to do with higher learning is a scam in the U.S.

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          Yes some higher learning is a scam, and some is just for the contacts one acquires. Trump, as awful as he is, does seem to be objectively successful, so he’s not really such a great example. I’d love to just blame his inheritance on his success but clearly he has some ability to raise support from idiots. There are certainly higher learning paths that are very real, like medical, engineering, lawl, some humanities, and some commerce.

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            You’ve obviously never talked to a business major for any length of time. He has confidence, which is what the “Con” in conartist comes from.

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              And con artists are usually quite well educated. Maybe not in an academic sense, but in an understanding people way. I feel trump isn’t really that tho; his con is being an arrogant bully and the inheritance he started with makes that work enough somehow.

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                I know con artists in real life. They are not educated. They just speak fast and make up ideas that laymen wont call them out on. When they unknowing try that on someone who has a background in the specific field, they fall apart or get angry. A lot of conartists don’t even know they’re doing it because they’ve been doing it for so long, they’ve conned themselves.

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            He knows how to con people. All his actual business ventures fail, by design probably

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          I’m very not an Elon fan. But didn’t he do theoretical physics at uni? That’s not really a dumb dumb degree.

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        Yea dude didn’t you see on tiktok all the dumb rich people? That is reflective of reality not reality itself! Why didn’t life just make me instant rich I wish I was rich also rich people are a different species who should die.

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    It’s a flex. In a society that fools itself into thinking it is a meritocracy, people who buy privilege still think that means they are intrinsically worthy and amazing. Scholarship is thought to portray that the individual is so intelligent (or good at sports) that the university is ready to give up thousands in income to have that candidate.

    Scholarships are not meant for the filthy peasants who need them, that would be like giving feebies to the undeserving freeloaders. Instead it should be given to those gifted and capable individuals who could afford an expensive private education.

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      Those universities are gambling thousands of current-revenue tuition dollars on millions of future-revenue philanthropy. The odds are good on a J-Lo level prospect.

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      I think it’s important to distinguish need-based financial aid from merit-based scholarships here, as well as exclude 3rd party scholarships. Need-based financial aid does exist, but only at top universities that don’t need the money and basically pay for everyone to go if their parents make less than $200k a year. Merit-based scholarships are exactly what you’re talking about and very very often go to upper-middle class students as an incentive to attend. I had a rich friend who didn’t want to apply to selective universities so they went to a random state university that offered them this type of scholarship, and I believe didn’t end up having to pay anything for college. At least that was the brag.

      That being said, I want to say I’m shocked and appalled JLo would be so out of touch to think this would land, but that’s pretty par for the course for her.

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    Anyone remember that whole “athletic scholarship” scandal from a few years back, then Doctor Dre was bragging about his daughter getting into USC on her own…until someone pointed out he just donated millions of dollars to the school…

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    Even if she didn’t bribe anyone or throw her weight around just being related to her still influences it a lot.

    But at least she’s supportive. The amount of parents that think their kids can make it on their own is stupid and it’s just not right. Being smart and getting good scores isn’t enough on its own.

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    Nope. Scholarships are awards based on academic performance. Bursaries are needs-based funding without a performance requirement.

    If you want to change that, you have to change the system of ear-marked private donations. Most scholarships are set up by wealthy private donors with very specific requirements for the student to meet.

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      Public universities used to be tuition free. The government funded universities. Now it just underwrites student loans. The wealthy private donors prefer the current system because their donations give them wage slaves. They also get the added benefit of having their name on a university building.

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        In a sane country education is not only free, but students are provided with a small basic stipend from the government with the option of very favorable loans if needed.

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      Scholarships are awards based on academic performance.

      How do you figure? My department has scholarships tied to a whole lot of criteria. Many are purely need based.

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        There are loads of kids from lower income backgrounds with top academic performance. There are also loads of kids from wealthy backgrounds with terrible academic performance (I worked with some of them while interning at a private school).

        You’re definitely right when it comes to demographic averages but you can’t make a definitive determination on an individual basis without knowing someone’s background.

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      Scholarships still generally have a subjective aspect, often in the form of a short essay.

      As long as there are subjective measures, there is the opportunity for abuse.

      Like, hypothetically if you were an institution you might want wealthy students who’s parents will be inclined to donate large sums of money… and you might recognize that if the parents are in the public eye it would be attractive to them to be able to say thier kids made it on a full ride scholarship (even though thier donations would vastly eclipse any tuition costs). You suddenly have an incentive to use the subjective component of a scholarship as justification to award the scholarship to wealthy donors to ultimately profit.

      Not saying that’s necessarily what happened here… Just that the argument of “that’s not what they’re used for” is a little hollow when they’re already not being used for what they’re for.

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        Depends on the scholarship and the university I think. At my university a donor would give the money to the school and specify the conditions of who it would go to, and the school would assign it accordingly.

        That said, the school sometimes really stretched the conditions to ensure it went to a favoured student (typically the top students). I benefited from one award that was aimed at students who didn’t originally grow up in <big city where main campus is located>. Donor grew up in a rural area and wanted to support students who had to move away from home to study. The problem though was that I was living with my parents, studying at <newer campus in smaller city>. I was technically eligible but it was completely against the spirit of the award. In addition, I was being given plenty of other scholarships and this one could have gone to literally anyone else at this campus.

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    “Mom, seriously, it was a post about us going to college. Did you have to do a model pose and have your belly sticking out.”

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    If they did that the rich kid would whine until there were no scholarships anymore, Means testing is generally a bad idea because, for one thing, it usually costs more to regulate than would’ve been spent to keep giving out freely.