• DupaCycki@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    The European Comission being corrupt as fuck really doesn’t help with growing anti-EU sentiments. This is why people lose faith in the EU.

    Prosecute Ursula von der Leyen for treason and crimes against the European Union. Dissolve the European Comission and/or give more power to the European Parliament.

    How are we supposed to be the leading democracy if only the arbitrarily-appointed commissioners can introduce new legislation?

    How is it a functional democracy if one of the most successful citizens’ initiative is essentially being ignored, because it doesn’t align with corporate interests?

    President von der Leyen, along with the rest of the European Comission, are digging the entire European Union’s grave. And they’re doing a very good job, unfortunately.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    Hey, maybe it’s not that EU is a failed and totally corrupt state but they simply don’t care about video games that much? You know, with global economic crisis on the horizon, new war in the middle east, growing threat from Russia and the collapse of NATO? Is that possible?

  • Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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    “They say that existing EU consumer law “already provides for important safeguards protecting the economic interests of consumers”, and note that video game publishers have to inform about “the duration and the conditions for terminating the contract before the consumers signs up for the video game”.”

    Well that would be cool, but anything about the duration and conditions for terminating the contract i’ve ever read on boxes or terms of service is: " We can do whatever we like, whenever we like, just so we’re clear’ (im slightly paraphrasing). So it sound to me like the EC says: " Well these sellers said fuck you up front so they’re immune to any responsibility". Cool, cool. I saw a digital fairness act, but maybe we can hang something up in the mandated warranty tree? So if a game shuts down in 6 months barring you from playing, you would be entitled to some form of restitution instead of hoping the dev has morals.

    Still doesn’t solve that corpo’s have their fingers over the killbuttons on our cultural heritage existence, so, you know, there’s a lot of work to do still.

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      o it sound to me like the EC says: " Well these sellers said fuck you up front so they’re immune to any responsibility"

      Upfront? As in the UELA you get to read after opening the box, at which point you can’t return the game anymore?

    • ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Its not the eu’s job to protect cultural heritage. What kind of nut job comes to conclusions like this?

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          Well that’s a broad interpretation of a translation into a language no EU country officially speaks. So…

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            L’Union européenne a pour mission de soutenir et de compléter les actions menées par les États membres pour préserver et promouvoir le patrimoine culturel de l’Europe.

            Better ?

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            Dude, it’s ok to be wrong sometimes, no one would judge you :) In fact, it’s a sign of strength to be able to admit you’re wrong, and people will like you more for it. It’ll also be good for you personally as you will be more effective in more things :)

          • MonkRome@lemmy.world
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            8 hours ago

            How fragile is your ego when you have to say “nuh uh” to something so unambiguous?

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            Out of all “internet commenters who could not admit they were wrong,” this is quite high ranking in my memory.

            I will remember you, friend.

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    I see a lot of defeatist commenters are content to lie down and let this be the end result. I’ll let the man himself explain why this isn’t the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgoODQFrPgw&t=734s

    tl;dw: There is a much broader support for SKG in the European Parliament, the other legislative body besides the EC. They can’t introduce new legislation, but they can modify existing legislation; specifically, SKG is targeting the Digital Fairness Act.

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      There is a much broader support for SKG in the European Parliament, the other legislative body besides the EC

      Ah, the one that’s actually VOTED for (rather than appointed by “The Council”) is more responsive to the will of the people! Imagine that!

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      Definitely not the end of the movement, but it’s still disappointing that they reached anything other than the obvious conclusion with so much grassroots support.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Money wins again.

    It’s not a big enough issue for the pols to come down on the side of the people. They know they won’t be voted out on this one decision, so they came down on the side of the money.

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      On the bright side, there’s not enough money in live service anymore, so plenty of companies are getting cold feet when it comes to making games that can be killed anyway. Yeah, that’s a reach for a silver lining, but it’s something. I’d like to believe that the action they say they’re taking will result in real change, but it sure doesn’t sound like it.

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        there’s not enough money in live service anymore, so plenty of companies are getting cold feet when it comes to making games that can be killed anyway

        Got a source to back that up? I’d love for it to be true, but all I’ve ever heard is the opposite…

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          Sega

          Hasbro

          And I thought there was a third example in recent weeks, but I’m struggling to find it right now. In place of that, you can look at the implosion of Sony’s live service efforts, with Marathon falling far short of making money, and for some reason Fairgames, rumored to now be called Break-In, will be the last one out the door after that Horizon live service. After that, I’d be shocked if they keep trying.

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    As it is the tradition in the sector, I hope the industry will listen to player communities and agree on better sunsetting standards so communities can continue to meet and play together.

    lol. lmao even.

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        14 hours ago

        Especially the fucking gaming industry where the likes of EA, Ubisoft, and all the HUGE companies now owned by Microsoft have been shitting on consumers with absolutely staggering impunity for decades!

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    21 hours ago

    Good video to show how bs the corpo claims are. Especially the licensing claims.

    I think this video is specifically for the California bill, but similar arguments are being used against both initiatives.

    https://youtu.be/CgoODQFrPgw

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    20 hours ago

    TLDR “we have been successfully lobbied/bribed/corrupted into doing nothing (we may end up making it easier for publishers to do whatever they want)”.

    Lot of EU supremacist/jingoist gamers gonna be feeling some serious cognitive dissonance tonight.