Yeah.
Everyone is just winging it, power is given to those who are the best at convincingly promising things.
Plenty of adults lack spatial awareness
It’s actually crazy to see someone hike who has spent their entire life on flat surfaces. It’s like you have to coach them through rough rocky sections.
Have they never seen staircases? Lol
Rocky inclines are just less consistent staircases
That’s exactly it, when you never have to think about where your foot needs to go, it’s overwhelming when every step requires a decision.
Like I’ve ran a trail race with an injury so I was mostly walking or slow jogging. People would be faster than me on roads connecting the mountains, but I would pass them on the trails just by virtue of being good at running on rocks and uneven ground.
Especially when I’m trying to get through shopping! Move to one siiiideeeeee!
Un-shockingly too many don’t give a fuck while driving. Bikes need 4ft of room when cars pass.
Maturity is realising there is no such thing as an adult but still behaving like one at specific times because you understand that that is the better way to get things done in that setting.
Everyone grows up, many people can behave in an adult way (including children), but actually maturity often still feels rare.
I tried out the whole traditional adult thing, and honestly, I’m a lot happier watching cartoons and playing video games.
I haven’t watched cartoons in a long time and now I want to see Wiley Coyote running off a cliff with a bomb…
… while drinking beer.
edit: I’m drinking the beer not Wiley… or the Road Runner.
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Counterpoint: Noone grows up, some people are just better at hiding it. (Or activly choose not to)
They do usually “grow” “up” but i agree, even encourage this dynamic.
Part of (what i would call “real”) maturity is recognising when it’s ok to stop acting mature and just have fun.
I’m not even sure there is such a thing as behaving in an adult way. Everyone above us does not act “adult” so if we do that hurts us. If you’re expected to act civil all of the time while the president gets to be that then it becomes a class separation and we lose.
Working this out a bit more… if we have to act domesticated while leaders are raping kids and stealing from us then we aren’t acting adult anymore. We are acting like cowards.
Whatever an adult does is adult behavior, descriptivism ftw
Humans think we transform into an “adult” at some point, but that sort of maturing is 100% a social construct.
Adult basically means being able to reproduce offspring. Not intelligence related, thats being able to graduate in school.
Many people in history did this at what, 16? Not officially an adult in most countries.
That’s literally what we’re talking about. You’re thinking about the social construct of adult instead of the physical scientific definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult
I wouldn’t even consider graduating in school as a sign of intelligence. It sure helps to be intelligent, but it’s not necessary.
There are many definitions of ‘adult’; in this case, you’re talking about biological adulthood - the period where the person turns sexually mature.
Most don’t have spatial awareness at all though…
That is true.
Source: I’ve been to Costco.
You could just say you’ve been out in public at any point in your life.
But also the airport would have worked. I fucking hate people at the airport. As soon as they get off the plane, if there’s ever more than two people in a group, they’ll immediately spread out and take up an entire goddamn hallway as they walk should-to-shoulder to their next gate; and they make sure to go slow and randomly stop to check their phones.
dont forget the people who wait until everyone ahead of them is off the plane before they think to get up and get their crap out of the overhead. or the the ones that drag their feet in the walkway. or the ones that stop right outside the gate. like holy shit we werent crammed into a tiny tube together long enough? get the fuck off the plane i want to get out of the fucking airport.
Any parking lot anywhere
last week in the subway, there were two people chatting right at the base of the escalator, other passengers were awkwardly shoving past them.
When I got to them I said “you are going to take the escalator or not?” they didn’t reply, but quickly jump into the escalator, then they got out they just stood there continuing talking, at the top. I naturally got shoved into them and told me to look where I was going.
A lot of people never grow out of high school, that’s why socially things tend to be so shitty.
And why the thread about cooking for one’s self is full of people that think cooking food is a fancy, out of reach dream only for wealthy land owners or something, and that ordering Door Dash chicken tendies is a good use of money that only the most clever Poors know about.
With depression it can be hard to work up the will to cook sometimes. But when I do, I make a significant batch of food that’s tastier and more nutritious than what I can order out. As well people seem to over estimate the cost of produce though I know some live in food deserts who don’t have a lot of access to it.
But what if you’re depressed and can’t afford chicken tenders from door dash?
HELLO DINO NUGGIES!
Dino nuggies with dino shaped friend potatoes.
I’m a late 40’s child with more money for more expensive toys.
I finally felt like a grown-up when I realized I don’t know what I’m doing, I never will, and neither does anyone else.
I never had a moment where I suddenly felt like an adult, but at some point all the adults in my life stopped feeling like superiors and started feeling more like peers. So by then I guess I was one of them.
I can look back on different ages and see how much more adulty I am today. I thought I was smart and mostly an adult at 18, but I remember thinking people in the low 20s were notably older than me. Then when I was in my upper 20s, I realized just how wrong I was. I feel the upper 20s was a bit of a turning point for me but mostly because I got married which is a major adult life event. Now in my upper 30s, I can see how yound I was in my upper 20s.
I 100% agree, with that feeling of older people just being my peers. Hitting the workforce full-time and working with other adults that have been doing it for decades really opens your eyes a bit. Now I have a boss 10 years younger than me and a new guy in my team 10 years older. Other than the older guy and me getting each other’s dated references, were all pretty much the same socially. I usually forget there’s an age gap unless I specifically point it out.
I think of the point in time when working where I was like. Holy trump. im not the new guy. Or later starting a job and being the experienced guy. so wierd.
You can look forward to the day all the adults in your life start feeling like children. Then, you will know.
The number of times I have thought “didn’t your mother teach you manners?” about grown adults…
I never got the better spatial awareness. Still stepping on cats, whacking my elbows on door handles and knocking things off counters.
At least you can eat your dessert first now, if you wish!
Hey! I resemble that remark!
And bills.
Indeed. Most run on autopilot.
You make it sound like it’s bad. Running basic daily chores on autopilot is rather beneficial. Like cleaning, cooking, laundry, basic eating, even sleep and overall daily routine. Depending on work even that can be done on autopilot. Frees up the mind to wander and think about something else or listen to audiobooks and makes sure that the most basic day to day tasks are done.
People often times complain how annoying it is to wash the dishes or do laundry or clean, running those on autopilot while barely even giving those the attention seems like a perfect solution.
What you’re describing is the opposite of mindfulness and is a great way to entirely lose yourself.
Sure autopilot has its uses, but if you’re relying on autopilot day in and day out as so many people are now doing in modern day, you are no longer yourself. You have become your autopilot. Like a gentle brainwash.
If you do this for long enough, this is how you end up with a mid-life crisis, because you’ll go through decades of your life on autopilot when one day your actual self shows up to take an assessment.
That’s when you realize that all the decisions, desires, pitfalls and relationships you’ve been having were also your autopilot and not you. If you’re not legitimately assessing your life and reflecting on it on a regular basis and constantly giving your life “input,” the world will leave you behind.
So were actually supposed to give attention to the most basic day to day chores?
Running basic day to day tasks on autopilot doesn’t mean that it can’t be turned off when those tasks are done. It’s just a good way to maintain basic functionality, which overwhelming majority of life actually does consist of. Once the basic maintenance is done. Just flip a switch, turn the autopilot off and go enjoy your hobbies or yeah reassess and reflect.
So were actually supposed to give attention to the most basic day to day chores?
Believe it or not, yes. It can be massively beneficial to teach yourself to give more true attention to all things. The more we’re in our heads, the less likely we are to be in touch with reality. Thought can only take you so far and there’s no downside to being more alert in our daily lives.
Obviously, if your job is to be a theoretical mathematician, this doesn’t apply in the same way, but mindfulness is a very real thing that benefits all parts of life.
Edit: I’m not even kidding when I say this is both the core principle of what Alan Watts was teaching (here’s a clip from his famous “Overthinker” speech) and the moral behind the movie Click. They’re both saying the same thing in different ways.
Fair, that’s rather interesting actually. I do agree that mindfulness training and being aware of ones body and surrounding is and has been rather useful over the years.
I just wouldn’t really want to do that with basic daily chores and prefer to have a specific dedicated activity for that.Everyone just distracts themselves all the time. Even a walk in the forest, some people do that with a podcast playing. They don’t enjoy the natural world around them. Being in the moment seems to be too boring for most.
I mean their entire life is running on autopilot. No idea who they are and what they wanna do with their being. Hard questions with possibly tough outcomes. It’s way easier to wander your mind then to focus on your life.
Seems a monotheistic idea. What if we’re all old, but we just return to our age as we age?
