Of the Americans you have the option to shit on, you choose the poor.
As someone from the US: we all know what the military is up to and most of us would never join it willingly.
I’m not saying anyone who joins is evil but I am saying they’re some combination of evil, naive, desperate, and brainwashed, and definitely not representative of the average us worker.
See the thing this misses, is that our education system is so bad, that the kids signing up for money don’t have any idea that the military is committing genocide. Their school sure didn’t teach it. The recruiter told them theynwould be helping people and protecting americans. And most kids don’t follow the news. That’s a tale as old as time. Many adults don’t either. So yeah, they are still a victim. The vast majority will never see combat, so they will come out not knowing either. The blame should be placed squarely on the people who gave the orders first. Then on those in leadership that choose a military career knowing what it does. After that, the amount of blame is more case by case. They are all guilty to some extent, just like manslaughter is still a crime. But if you are focusing on the rank and file before you hold the top accountable, you are just as evil as them.
i’ll say it. anyone who joins in this current era is, in fact, trading humanity for evil. they are choosing evil. they are evil. it’s a binary. you cannot volunteer to join and also be some form of human able to see others as worth something.
According to Marxist theory the individual soldier usually is working class since class is not defined by the function or moral evaluation but by their position within the economical and power structures.
A regular soldier does not own land, a factory or any other means of extracting profit, they are selling their own labour, they do not exercise power over their own labour other than providing it in exchange for a wage and they are usually recruited from lower/middle class.
With Marx class does not equal a political function, a soldier can be objectively working class and still be used by their employer (state) against the interest of their own class. In Marx’s theory that is not a contradiction but a feature of the state as a class instrument.
Soldiers would be considered lumpenproletarians and class traitors in Marxist theory. Being working class doesn’t mean you have class consciousness.
I agree but the term ‘class traitor’ does not appear in Marx or Engels texts because they do not discuss individual ‘guilt’ or any form of individual morality, they discuss the overall econimcal and societal relations to each other.
Class traitors as a term appears later in revolutionary rhetoric and it usually describes a conscious effort against the interest of the own class. Soldiers act within the power structure of the state, not as free actors representing their class. Their role is institutionally dictated, not a individual ideological ‘betrayal’ like for example union busters.
With the term lumpen Proletarier Marx himself describes something similar but different. The Lumpenproletariat according to Marx does not live within the structures of typical class, they do not own means of production, but they are also not giving their labor for a wage. Through that they can not have a unified class consciousness and act largely indivualisticly. He means economic minorities like beggars, vagabonds, criminals, grifters and the like. According to Marx they are 'politically unreliable ’ and usually reactionary in nature.
It’s worth noting that this kind of classification was criticized widely, the term itself is seen as problematic even within Marxist circles.
just fyi, soldiers (and cops) are not working class roles.
I sort of feel like if you are in a situation where you’re prepared to kill other people just so you get a bit of cash you will probably not right in the head to begin with.
It’s a symptom of capitalism
Not POV, but 3rd Person View
Nah you are standing behind that guy.
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Well army guys are usually in groups so this could actually be a POV
If the camera is locked at that low angle, I’m not playing. I have to be able to see what is directly in front of me.
Gotta say few things in this site are more annoying than that childish kkk shit in America, actually makes me mad everytime I read it and I actually agree with the rest of the general points (usually)
And it combines the silly “kkk” thing with calling US citizens “American”, which IMO is in bad taste considering that US elites claim imperial ownership over the entire continent and just generally a dick move towards the majority of North+South America’s population.
Granted, I haven’t seen a good alternative in spoken language. “US citizen” doesn’t roll of the tongue well (and ignores the millions of non-citizen US residents), and “USAian” is definitely not going to catch on outside of niche internet communities.
It isn’t really an imperial thing. It’s that, 250 years ago, when the tiny, newly independent nation was deciding on a name, no one bothered themselves with a new and unique name. And as you noted, American is the only part of that name that works as a description of a resident, even if it’s nonsensical.
Sure feels like an imperial thing.
There’s actually a Wikipedia article on USA demonyms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United_States
Spanish actually uses “estadounidense” (~“United Statesian”), because they do use “American” to refer to inhabitants of the continent. In English, “US-American” is probably the best option, though “United Stater” doesn’t sound terrible, either.
