• voodooattack@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    (Serious)

    A racist is what happens when someone runs out of neural plasticity due to conditioning from a young age. They aren’t interested in your opinion because their brains have no space left for anything but bigotry. That means a condition where new synaptic connections between neurons can no longer form due to preexisting crystallised connections occupying the same volume. They literally can’t change their mind without tearing something down first.

    There is a literal forbidden metabolic cost to changing how they think, and since bigotry is embedded as a core value, taking that out is impossible without tearing them down and building them back up from a ground state.

    You’ll find echoes of this same phenomenon in all walks of life. Religious fundamentalists/zealots/extremists of any religion exhibit this, and also “militant” atheists. It also applies to ideology. Communist vs Capitalist vs Socialist. We’re all blends of beliefs that want to be known.

    I’m going to be downvoted hard for this, but you’ll know the type.

    Note if you’re wondering: I am Muslim and I practice my faith. So long it harms and obstructs no one, practicing and taking pride in your faith (or lackthereof) is a healthy expression of freedom, my views are my own opinions and I welcome dialogue in place of a meaningless downvote.

    • TheSambassador@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      This kinda has bro science vibes. We don’t have nearly enough of an understanding of the brain to make statements like this.

      • phx@lemmy.world
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        I kinda feel it does make sense, though perhaps not so strongly as the parent indicated. Young brains are more malleable - that’s pretty much a known thing - and learning at a young age sets in high knowledge and patterns of learning that follow us through adulthood.

        If one learns a certain thing from a young age and it’s pretty much been driven in multiple ways - indoctrination whether intentional or otherwise - that’s a lot of stuff that’s been set pretty hard. Even it somebody is actively aware it’s bad it can be hard to adjust one’s inclination towards a certain way of thinking.

        I’m not trying to make excuses for racism - because frankly a lot of those people don’t even try to adjust their thinking - but breaking free from one’s upbringing is not a small hurdle and I’d put it in similar terms to breaking a bad addiction.

      • Jax@sh.itjust.works
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        I don’t think LSD has the capacity to change someone that doesn’t already want to change.

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    they are though.

    anyone who grew up in the american suburbs grew up with parents who couldn’t cook a proper meal despite the existence of cookbooks and were like ‘how about kraft dinner.’

    you think you eat kraft macaroni and cheese at a hood bbq?

    i’d rather have had a black woman cooking for me lol. are you fucking serious?

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    I’m not a historian but I believe the sad truth is that they saw them like animals; capable of being trained to do jobs but not smart enough to understand more complex issues or choose the tasks themselves

    Like a dog. You can train your dog to guard your house or hunt birds but you probably don’t trust your dog to vote

    It’s fucked up

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      I’ve seen how people vote. I’d take the chances with the dogs, so maybe a bad example. I feel like they might be able to better know who’s a piece of shit than most humans can.

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        One Sunday morning I walked out into my ex’s open garage and sitting in there was a stray dog. Her neck fur had a mark as though someone recently pulled off her collar and dumped her on the back road. I calmly approached the dog and turns out she was the sweetest doggo and instantly got along with my ex’s other 2 dogs. She rarely barked and would always just walk up to someone, sit and wait to get petted. Even the ex’s dad who doesn’t like dogs eventually warmed up to her because of how sweet she was.

        Weeks later we took her to an event downtown on an unseasonably hot fall afternoon beer fest. That dog wanted nothing more than to just get pet by as many people as possible. Outside the front door of a brewery was a worker sitting in a chair almost drenched in sweat looking like he hated life. She walked up to him, sat down and looked at him, and he instantly smiled.

        Working one of the beer tents was an interim director of HR from my job who was one of the most miserable shit-birds I ever had the displeasure to work with. She did nothing but complain about everything and everyone, blindly blamed everyone for things she simply didn’t understand, I even nearly got written up because this lady didn’t take the time to read my explanation about an error report when new employees are loaded into a benefits system. Even the sweetest dog wanted nothing to do with that miserable fuck.

        I’ll trust the dogs to be a better judge of character than half the mouthbreathers who vote at the polls.

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    There are a few forms or levels of racism. There are people who really believe the narrative, some who question some of it, and others who are aware it’s bullshit but accept it because it benefits them or going against the narrative could be harmful for themselves. In short humans will craft whatever story they need to justify behavior they want without any concerns for logical consistency. You can see this behavior in racism now and of course many other aspects of society and human behavior. Humans are storytellers, more so than logical beings.

    Funny enough Benjamin Franklin has a short story on this. He as a vegetarian was lamenting his compatriots catching, killing, and cooking fish, listing all the reasons it’s immoral until he begins to smell the delicious fish and then starts writing about how maybe it’s not so bad, is fine, is even his god given right to eat the fish. The moral being humans can and will justify whatever they want to do. Also I’m aware of his own connection to slavery and inhumane practices.

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      If I remember correctly, mind you it’s been over two decades probably but the defining point at which he decides it’s okay to eat the fish is when he notices that the fish had been eating other fish when they fillayed it

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        Lol it’s probably been about as long for me since I read it. That sounds about right. It’s a good analogy though.

    • ynthrepic@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      And so the billionaires win again as we fight to justify not being assholes to one another.

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        11 hours ago

        Have you ever seen the movie Se7en with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman? I don’t know a single person who wouldn’t do what Brad Pitt did at the end of that movie. Not a single person. And I wouldn’t blame them either.

        Just the other day someone posted on here that their uncle died from covid after getting sucked into the alt-right pseudo-medicine rabbit hole. And the comments were all just vile shit like “I’m glad your dumbass uncle died” and “1 down only like 20 million to go”, “good riddance he deserved it” etc. And when I point out shit talking this guy for losing someone he loved is fucked up I get downvoted lol. We can’t even come together online, let alone in person.

        Whoever is running things know that we simply cannot get along, we cannot forgive each other, we cannot unite. It’s their greatest tool honestly. Could you forgive maga?

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          I don’t think I’d do what Brad Pitt did at the end of that movie, one-shot kill is far too kind and reasonable for the state of mind I’d be in.

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        Those in power want to maintain power which is much easier if the people are divided, particularly on subjects not involving the people in power.

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          Yeah, but they can create the conditions where altruism is a non beneficial trait that ultimately leads to your untimely end. The goal isn’t for them to personally intervene in people’s lives, just to create the conditions that are most desirable to maintain their own position.

          That’s why they’ve spent decades attacking the kindness of the working class. Turning the idea of charity into an insult, Christianity into prosperity Gospel, and being neighborly into an immigrant sympathizer. They want the lower class to idolize the same kind of disregard for empathy that made them rich to begin with.

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                  Yep, all you can do is your best. Just keep one foot in front of the other and you’ll eventually end up old and tired, but hopefully content and with a mostly clear conscience.

                  Things have always been more fucked up than the general public likes to acknowledge, but I do admit that I really feel for younger people. I’m middle aged and have seen a lot in my time, but it does seem like the kids are going to have an even tougher go at it than I did, which is saying a lot. At least I got to see the analog world, before the towers fell and America cranked the crazy to 11, a time before the end of history.

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          Don’t fuck billionaires. There needs to be an embargo on sex for billionaires.

          Imagine how drastically the world could change if they need to give away enough of their wealth to put them below $1B net worth before they can get laid again!

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        It’s just generally beneficial to be aware. Besides that, if you are interacting with someone who is bigoted in some way it’s useful to determine which type they are. If they are just sold to the narrative then it’s easier to open up their mind. If they are aware it’s bullshit that just benefits them then it’s pretty difficult.

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      Better than being “sold down the river”. Very few people stand up and fight for the good, the true, and the just.

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      It is a post from 4chan so unfortunately that kind of language is to be expected. I’m hoping people here don’t use i, or wish to normalise it.

  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    Read “The Autobiography of Malcolm X”

    Plenty of Black people were ready to accept the situation.

    Calling someone ‘African’ used to be a huge insult.

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    There is no ideology that cannot be ridiculed, no ideology where you cannot find retarded logic. And people who notice those problems in their own ideology usually just double down, get radical, angry and defensive.