Get the fuck out then
Well then, vote Hakeem out of politics he is definitely not serving for the people.
One of his few good points, and it may be accidental is that it’s hard to sell a tax increase.
My health insurance premium is way higher than my Medicare tax, so I can recognize that tripling the Medicare tax in my income bracket in order to support Medicare for all will actually save me money.
But there are a lot of people who would stop at tripling the Medicare tax is bad. It would be a hard sell to get past that.
The only real problem with tripling the Medicare tax is that it’s a fixed percentage and is capped, but really ought to be progressive with no cap
It’s ONE of the MOST Difficult things to Tell people their Monthly costs will
LOWER!Be LESS!SAVE Money!I cant’ even do it!Selling a good thing like Medicare for all is a skills issue at this point. And if we keep hiring Democrats who lack that level of communication skills, then don’t blame the voters for failing to know what is at stake.
It’s one of those things that boggles me. People will happily hundreds of dollars a month for a ‘service’ they barely use and is notorious for finding ways to not honor providing the service for any number of reasons.
But the second you rephrase it as a tax, even a tax that would cost them less and provide them better services, they just don’t want any part of it and cling to the broken model like any kind of tax is an impediment of their rights.
This is why the idea of “Medicare for those who want it” seems appealing to me. Until you reach a certain threshold (say, 70%), make both the tax and benefits optional.
It’s not optimal by any stretch but it’s easier to sell it as an optional tax and benefit.
Welp, I don’t support Hakeem Jeffries. So, there you go.
What happened to his primary opponents? He was scheduled for a primary election this uear but it says both of his opponents either dropped out or were disqualified and I can’t find info on that.
WhAt you wAnT tRumP to win?!??!??!??!???!!
Vote blue no matter who! 🤪
Jeffries appears to have moved past his primary election unopposed, so yes indeed people should vote for him in November.
Can he drum up sufficient support, though?
The “idc what happens i’m sure the blues will win somehow” voting block is doing pretty well these days.
Well right now he’s doing the opposite of drumming up support by stating his opposition to near-universally popular policies and attacking the most energized portion of the base.
Supporting him is done by us not him, so how we speak and how we act will decide. Start by downvoting divisive posts like this.
Why is it “divisive” to report on what Hakeem says, but it’s not “divisive” for him to say it?
Why do you assume we’re worse than him?
Who’s we?
Yeah I’m sure a downvote from the comfort of your desk helps at the ballot box.
You’ve never heard of a primary, have you?
Ah yes, the ancient Roman custom of primaries. Magnus Magnentius winning the primary against Constans is one of the most famous primaries in history.
Sure have.
Looking forward to your support of El-Sayed!
El-Sayed won his primary, so you’re welcome.
Also, El-Sayed isn’t a current DSA member.
He’d have my vote if I lived in Michigan
You like where we’re at?
This is why we are we are.
The fact that establishment Dems roll over against Republicans should tell you everything you need to know.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/does-hakeem-jeffries-support-medicare-for-all
Explain the functional difference between rolling over and not participating at all?
Non sequitur.
You not understanding the relevance is not the same as it not being relevant
Are you still here making strawman arguments, pretending you won the debate?
Don’t hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.
Your reward for “winning” is this video: Love Me, I’m A Liberal
You dumb Cunt
And to think, I helped get this guy elected to the Senate for his first term. I campaigned for this asshole. I canvassed. I had a lanyard. I had a clipboard. I knocked on doors. I convinced others to vote for him.
I met him and shook his hand. and this motherfucker lied right to my goddamn face.
I feel fucking dirty, and I feel disgusting for spreading that filth to others
Edit: the Hakeem Jeffries wasn’t in front of the Javiz Center at the BLM protest… But I was and I can bring that fight to the next election… And the next. Didn’t bet on that did you, Hakeem? Well, fuck you. And fuck that horse of entitlement you rode in on.
You know what else survived the NYPD crackdown at the Javits center? This watch (cracks courtesy of the NYPD):
And this watch says your time has run out.
I can only hope a lot of MAGA voters feel betrayed the same way. That pretty optimistic though, trump has his stupid cult of personality around him. Plus he’s actually following through on a lot of his campaign promises, unlike the lying dem mfs.
I saw a recent video of an interview with the Trump voter that said they regretted voting for Donald Trump because “ICE wasn’t hurting the right people“
These people who voted for Trump are fucking sociopaths, just like Trump. they have nothing but hate in their hearts, and they voted for Trump because they wanted to hurt others. they voted for Trump because they believed he would be the agent of pain and destruction for fellow Americans that they did not like. people like you and me.
It’s like that video of the old man crying on the news weeping because his Haitian wife got dragged off to the concentration camps, with him crying “but I’m a business owner! I voted for Trump three times! Why did he come after my wife?“ Why did you think you were special, asshole?
Thanks for volunteering! It sucks to see this but you’ll know better next time.
What I know is that the NYPD are fascist motherfuckers, and next time I’ll be better prepared to dodge a baton
Calm down, guy, the Primary for NY district 8 ended already. Like it or not we want Jeffries to win in November, because even if you don’t believe his words you definitely shouldn’t believe the child rape and human cattle party that is the GOP.
Calm down, guy,
Reign it in, Cuntalicious— this story was from 2011-2012. Were you ever born then? Lmao.
And just because Jeffries isn’t currently being challenged for his district, doesn’t mean he isn’t a Titanic piece of shit. It also doesn’t mean that you aren’t a Titanic piece of shit for trying to stick up for him. Really, what is he done that you are willing to defend? Fuck you.
I bet you don’t even live in this district, ya poser.
Him not being a Republican is still enough to defend with everything we have in November. He wants to reform the scotus and undo cuts to medicare and social security. We need him to win in Novemver so go get your fucking canvassing clipboard out.
How about you demand better from the dems for once in your life?
He’s even not up for reelection in November, and won’t be until 2028
I stand corrected, not that it’s much of a race
You know, if you have a strong argument you don’t need to resort to aggression and name calling.
I don’t think this is an argument. OP has a personal vendetta with a high pfofile figure and telling him to “calm down we need him” doesn’t remove that betrayal. He wasn’t even disagreeing with the reply. Just asserting what we all already know in that Jeffries does not have the people’s priorities in mind.
Him not being as bad as a literal nazi isn’t a high bar to meet.
When I have a weak argument, I like to go with the “God told me I’m right in a vision, unbeliever” option. Works every time.
Research into rhetoric disagrees if the person is using themselves as part of the argument. If they bring in their credibility then an ad hominem is rhetorically the correct response.
With that fun fact of the way, in this instance I think you are right.
Find someone who looks at you like Hakeem looks at a war criminal.
Step one: get rid of the Nazis
Step two: get rid of moderate Democrats
The Overton window has shifted so far that this dude would be hard right anywhere else in the civilized world.
We are the moderates. Current Dem leadership are regressive.
Ok but nazis first right
Yes. Order of operations and all that.
You gotta do both at the same time or you won’t get rid of either of them. If they act as a unified bloc we should treat them as such.
In one fell swoop? We don’t have that choice, and even if we did, the numbers aren’t there. If it is a decision between a Republican and a centrist Democrat, I’ll take the centrist no contest. You have to vote for social democrats in the primaries first. In general elections, I just vote against Republicans.
The strategy you describe is concurrent, or as concurrent as it can be. If you’re a stickler for details it’s actually the reverse of the order of operations you laid out, since the primary comes before the general.
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Yeah man i fucking hate making sure americans can afford to live their goddamn lives and maybe spend some of that time with their families?
No? Just work and missiles for war criminals? Fuck off.
I hope you guys on the left understand the assignment is to retake the party from the dumb fucks in my older generation (Gen X specifically, but also the Boomers who haven’t croaked yet.) We think we know but we don’t. We/they are wrong. The center can win you a battle but it will never ever win the fucking war. Go win the war.
They try to pull right because they are right, their only job is to make sure actual left never rises.
All these people only care about their immediate families, rich buddies and hoarding as much property and wealth as possible.
We need to stop having faith in them and rise up in action to establish true democracy.
Ok do it?
Perhaps another scheduled nonviolent demonstration? No Kings XIII?
You’re right. Most of the people in this country probably need to pushed to the point of starvation to violently revolt. The problem is, who will be the first person to start? Trying to do it as one person is pointless.
Instead, Jeffries argued Democrats should focus on making healthcare more affordable by reversing Republican-enacted Medicaid cuts and extending Affordable Care Act tax credits that he said have helped millions of Americans manage insurance costs.
So basically he’s saying that now that Republicans hamstringed our healthcare, we should change our goals and just go back to how things were??? I feel like this is the most obvious it has ever been that establishment dems are NOT on our (the people’s) side.
TBF Jeffries cosponsored single payer bills for a decade. It’s probably a better indication of his specific decline rather than the party itself.
Jeffries needs to win in November, though.
You are so weird.
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You three motherfuckers sound almost the exact same, with a few different quirks. American Exceptionalists who constantly try to convince people of supporting this system and this democratic party as is.
I just saw UnderpantsWeevil commenting in this post about the USS Lincoln (https://lemmy.world/post/50817587) pretty much implying that Gavin Newsom is going to be the next president. What the fuck? The difference between him and you and Satan is that he seems to be a little pro-China. Satan hates China. I don’t know about you, but, you all overlap hard with the American Exceptionalism, you being some of the oldest active accounts I have seen in Lemmy ever since I joined it after the Reddit API fiasco, and the insane amount of activity all of you have in this platform.
Do you even have a job or how the fuck do you three have so many comments here? And why the hell are you always trying to sway people to be pro-America no matter what? You still want America to be the “world police,” to meddle in other countries and whatnot. You are right now telling people that this Hakeem Jeffrey POS “needs to win in November” even after all the evil shit he says and does. Someone just posted a photo of him looking at Netanyahu like a wife, that’s the kind of evil corpo bootlicker monster he is.
Why? Why can’t you instead tell people that they deserve better than this loser?
I get your angle about not letting any republican in power, but what the fuck is this, man? Are you feds or something??
This mf over here writing novellas in the comment section while complaining about number of comments.
Probably because you publish a sheer volume of comments that rivals a coked up Stephen King’s output trying to browbeat people into not believing their eyes and ears when establishment Democratic figures are being as blatant as they can be in demonstrating they are not on the side of the people and will not be coming to help us, but fighting against us when it comes to down to it.
It’s fucking exhausting to have every thread be full of you guys going “But see, he said he’d only break one of your arms and legs if he wins, not both of them!” as if that’s supposed to make people suddenly say, “You know what, that’s great, he’s got my vote.” when folks simply point out he’s said these things and wish that he would commit to not breaking any of our limbs if elected instead. “Ah, but harm reduction! The republicans will break both your arms and legs if they win.” Yeah, and assholes like Hakeem Jeffries will be holding you down while they do it to make sure they don’t miss while you squirm, thanks a lot.
too long, didn’t read
Are you slopping?
Wow, you lack the attention span to read two small paragraphs, so that means anyone functionally literate is must be going and dipping into that AI well, too? Projection skills like that could probably land you a fine job at Imax, buddy.
You’re posting a lot of comments. Don’t you have a job or something better to do?
He’s going to lose and people like you will blame the voters, but it’ll be his own fault.
I would have liked for his opponents to run a proper primary against him and win, but now that he’s going to the general I support him 100% and I say any abstainers are morons for allowing the mere possibility of a GOP congressman.
Hakeem Jeffries can fuck off. It’s been clear since day 1 of trump 2.0 that he’s a fucking hack, and here we are.
Well then you got to go son.
He knows he will…
He’s just trying to depress his own party’s turnout because he’ll say if we ran neoliberal candidates and had a neoliberal DNC we’d have done better.
He won’t have a leadership position in February if Martin still has the DNC, and Jefferies would rather hand the government to trump for another two years than see progressives elect progressive congressional leadership.
Unrelated, isn’t this so cute?
Every corner of rot needs to be dealt with in this country, including controlled opposition.
The first job of the new Dem Congress after the Midterm, is to immediately replace the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries. If they don’t work for the other side, they might as well be. Get rid of them.
Fuck this guy. I hope karma catches up to him and all his bullshit.
