President Trump got in the face of ABC’s Rachel Scott after she asked him a question about the rationale behind his national midterm voter bribe.

“Mr. President, on the checks: The U.S. is still $40 trillion in debt. If your economic policies are working, why do you need an incentive for people to turn out to vote?” she asked Thursday night.

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    The people here saying it’s not a lunge are full of shit. Damage control or something.

    Look at the dude’s face, he was moments away from physically assaulting this woman before remembering where he was.

    Go read a dictionary, and then apologize.

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    The real question needed is “whatever BS justification for the cheque is, why does it have to be conditional on midterm results”, and why will this happen when $1776 aniversary, DOGE, and tariff refund cheques never did?

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      You remember what ol’ Jack Burton always says at a time like that: “Have ya paid your dues, Jack?” “Yessir, the check is in the mail.”

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    Walked in on teenagers changing at beauty pageants, talked about grabbing women by the pussy, loomed over Hillary Clinton in the debates, raped E. Jean Carroll.

    This should surprise no one. He is a giant piece of shit.

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      That’s what so many love about him, though. The general message at that time was that Obama meant we were post-racial (even though his election drove conservatives to madness) and that it was “her turn” when it came to Hillary. Yeah, I didn’t really like the messaging around that, either.

      But the racists and misogynists were fuming and fuming all during the 90s (Hillary being talked about as a co-President possibly made them even crazier than having to abide a black President did) and then during Obama’s 8 years as virtually everyone ignored their stupid “long firm birth certificate” demands.

      When tiny d donnie came along and started saying and doing all the shit they say and do in private, because he’s supposedly a bigly billionaire who didn’t give a flying fuck about social norms because he has fuck-you money, they could not get enough. If Romney and McCain were their methadone, donnie is their China White.

      They view donnie as the guy that put both Obama and Hillary “in their place”.

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      The people who vote for him wish they could get away with that too. That’s really were the whole cult of personality comes from: unbalanced people who would hurt others if they could get away with it–you know, like our police and military.

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        I’d more likely assume he was falling over. I’d say that’s irresponsibly generous, though. A mild cough could be interpreted as impending death.

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        Definitely immature backlash. But more of a slight and slow lean forward, lunging implies a lot more. But hey, words today seem capable of transforming into any feeling, whenever needed so…who knows.

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      I assume they mean as in a verbal lunge, but as much as I hate clickbait shit, this doesn’t bother me even if it was meant as clickbait just because the actual situation is so bad that I don’t think putting it that way really oversells the sheer unacceptableness and misogyny.

      But I"m normally on your side on these things, so I mean, you still got my upvote…

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        I guess, maybe, but I won’t give reporters in a business the benefit of the doubt. They can use their words to say what they mean rather than leaving so much space for vague interpreting, and they choose not to despite it being their literal job.

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      I’m with yah, I wanted him to go full nutzo but all I got was him doubling over from stomach cramps.

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    I hope any reporter that has to tolerate being in his presence is paid well.

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    I did it as a reward for people having to put up with five years and four years of a horrible situation caused by Biden,” Trump replied. “You look at the border, you look at the crime… It’s almost a reward for the people having to put up with Biden’s policies.”

    I think that even the most ardent Trump supporter knows that things were better with Biden.

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      they’ll never admit it if they do.

      They’ll keep shoveling the spoonfulls of trump shit into their mouth, noticeably grimacing, but insisting it tastes better than the biden steak next to it.

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    keep the pressure on. he’s gonna snap and physically assault one of these reporters.

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      Yeah I was thinking about how that would maybe actually become a big deal.

      Then I remembered about that GOP politician that literally body slammed a reporter and barely got a slap on the wrist.

      He did not lose his job. I’m pretty sure he didn’t even get censured. So correction: it would be a big deal if a Democrat did it. Hell, I bet if a Democratic president had done this exact action in the OP, he’d be impeached. The hypocritical pearl clutching would be off the charts.

      Edit: Greg Gianforte. The current Governor of Montana.

      Body slammed Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs in 2017. Pled guilty to misdemeanor assault, then went on to continue winning elections until becoming the chief executive of an entire state.

      https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/12/532613316/montanas-gianforte-pleads-guilty-wont-serve-jail-time-in-assault-on-journalist

      https://abcnews.com/Politics/happened-republican-greg-gianforte-body-slammed-reporter/story?id=58610691

      This country is a piece of shit.

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        He could be found not guilty due to Presidential action all day long for not committing assault and battery for all I care.

        So long as the boxing champ working for AXY news or whatever is also found to have acted in self defense in accordance to their jurisdiction after their reflexive and mighty right hook starts a needed constitutional crisis.

        The courts can handle the absurdity.

        Not that the presidential immunity is ok at all, far from it.

        But there’s a vital distinction between “Can’t be charged for anything while performing Presidential duties” and “Anyone who exercises a legal right that crosses unto the protected person has that legal right deactivated”.

        Which…yes, pretty much is defacto currently for 99/100 things that any aggrieved party could claim as a grievance committed by the US. Gov, currently and effectively, I’m aware.

        But unstoppable force meeting immovable mouth?

        I feel codifying that too deeply would be a legal bridge too far.

        Not for decency but because what it means for the puppeteering interests. The reporter would be more at risk of ending in a black site than a courtroom, imo.

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          The self-defender wouldn’t live to see trial. The secret service would eliminate them before their fist connected, let alone the matter reached court.

          It doesn’t matter how big or tough you are. It does not matter what is legal, what is right or wrong, or any other factor. The victim would be dead, and the perp would be immune.

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            The secret service would eliminate them before their fist connected, let alone the matter reached court.

            I don’t think you’re appreciating the different reaction times and speeds here. The punch would be a response to Trump’s lunge. It could be very fast and almost instinctual. The secret service response would be slower.

            Even if the reporter had a secret service agent person standing behind them with a gun to their head and their finger on the trigger, the secret service agent wouldn’t be able to react that fast. Primarily because they weren’t planning to shoot the person and it’s difficult to tell if they’re just flinching or counter punching for a split second.

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                What you’re saying doesn’t make sense to me, as a person who has trained to react to similar situations. I’m going to switch to talking about this as a generic bodyguard protecting a client situation because it feels wrong to talk about striking the president, even in self defense.

                A person who defends themselves by punching once as a quick reaction is not going to be taking a threatening posture. In fact, they’ll be on the back foot backing away. Any decent bodyguard wouldn’t be considering using lethal force at that moment. They would be getting in between their client and the boxer. They’re not blind to the fact that it was their client who made the aggressive move, and the other person was just reacting and trying to get away.

                And I don’t think it matters much who the people involved are. As long as they’ve developed those boxing reflexes, even a person who is just a boxing gym regular would react faster than the fastest bodyguard. This is because one person is reacting on pure instinct, while the other has to make a judgement.

                A bodyguard’s job is not to simply execute any person who their client attacks.

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                  Except we’re not talking about a regular bodyguard are we. We’re talking about protecting an office, not a person. An idea, not a human being. It does not matter of the office holder is right or wrong in that moment. The office must be protected, and that includes from people with a rightful grievance against its current occupant.

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            ice found that when one of their great great great grandfather came over on Ellis Island an "I* was not dotted in their name this it’s not legal

            Who am I fucking kidding here, ice would just disappear them and unalive em without hesitation while wearing masks in unmarked cars like this microdicked pussy ass bitches they are

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            • I addressed the realpolitik in my last sentence re: black sites.

            • You seem to overestimate the acumen of the current members of the praetorian guard, in a way that is out of sync with their recorded performance lately.

            • The hypothetical presented has the perpetrator instigating a physical altercation in a moment of passionate rage, whereupon the perpetrator has placed themselves in an unfavorable position from which there is not enough time to avoid consequences.

            Whether the Secret Service risks shooting their charge to kill the hypothetical reporter on the spot or does their actual job and throws the sack of lies over the back of a strapping agent is not a part of the hypothetical.

            In such a scenario, the victim may be dead, but the perp, does not escape the classical (maladjusted) but natural response to saying shit like what is regularly produced with impunity, to another human being. The elderly perp.

            It doesn’t matter how big or tough you are. It does not matter what is legal, what is right or wrong, or any other factor. The victim would be dead, and the perp would be immune.

            You’re looking at the whole hypothetical exercise the wrong way. Despite its cathartic construction, it’s not about how big or tough.

            The enemy cannot be considered neither overwhelmingly strong nor inconsequentially weak.

            To say either one in absolutist terms is to play word games, rather than approaching a fight how it should be approached.

            Honest estimation bound to context is required to “Know thy enemy”.

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        And it should go to court to determine if that’s the case, as suggested by SCOTUS. Let the lower courts decide, don’t decide for them in the court of (a small fraction of the )public ('s) opinion.

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      I know from experience that sudden movement hurts when you’re old, he’ll be in pain later so hopefully more drug induced shit posting later

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      You would be hard pressed to find any journalist he could physically beat up. One might be hard pressed to find even a congress person he could beat up, including all of those geriatrics. Like him versus mitch mcconnel, not even sure he could manage to smother him with a pillow at this point.

      He’s weak and frail beyond description.

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        To be fair, it’s pretty hard to smother somebody who hasn’t breathed for two months. He sure is good at holding his breath and still being alive.

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          When is the last time we have had proof of life with mcconnel? They say they are letting him remote vote. If he can do that, he can say hey america on tv.

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            They say they are letting him remote vote.

            The Senate does NOT permit that for floor votes, and never has. Committees are a very different thing, but even then it’s proxy voting and not remote voting: iow, you have to actually be a senator on that committee and physically present to do it on behalf of your absent fellow senator.

            Be very careful with “they say” statements; I am hearing so many now that are just blatantly false, and usually to the end of making people feel more powerless and helpless, like this one.

            The rumor of McConnell participating in some kind of absentee voting in the Senate actually came up about a month ago in discussion if you’d like to read about it here – it was refreshing because both parties brought the receipts.

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      I watched the video, he didn’t lunge he got closer and leaned in to yell. Nothing fast or dramatic, just rude.

      If he tried to lunge he’d almost certainly fall. His speech is slurring more than the last time I listened to him and his movements are so very slow and calculated like he’s struggling to stay upright.

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        What ridiculous semantics you’re arguing?

        And yes, he did lunge at the end, it’s a series of movements throughout where he gets closer and closer, but the last is very forward and meant to intimidate. And the reporter didn’t even flinch as he’s such a non-threatening old fool standing on 4" lifts.

        Shame on you for this nonsense? Think about why you are arguing something before you just act.

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          Not really arguing semantics. It’s not a lunge. My issue is with these overly sensational headlines. They make it easier to dismiss for those inclined to do so. Plus these sensational headlines basically pad Fox’s daily talking points.

          Like you don’t need the exaggeration, his actions are already bad enough

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    Trump is a vile human being, but “lunges”? Come on… That is not at all what that word means. He leaned forward and disrespected a woman, something he’s done a thousand times before.

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      That is not at all what that word means

      lunge (plural lunges)

      1. A sudden forward movement, especially with a sword.

      I guess I don’t understand your objection.

      He leaned forward and disrespected a woman, something he’s done a thousand times before.

      As the story proceeds to point out.

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        Lunge has a definite implication of suddenness and/or violence, even hinted at by your definition. The man couldn’t lunge if his life depended on it. I take umbrage with the exaggeration of the headline when the man’s behaviour is already repulsive enough that we don’t need to embellish. And it, frankly, reeks of the kind of embellishment he’d do.

        If anyone watched the same video as me and can call that a “lunge”, we simply disagree on the definition of words I guess.

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          I went to the dictionary so that the definition wouldn’t be “mine.” “Sudden” is in that definition, it’s not an implication or a hint.

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            The “hinted at” part was referring to the connotation of violence, not the sudden part. Also didn’t think my use of “your” would be the key part of my comment, but I meant that in insomuch as “the definition you supplied”.

            Neither of which, I think, dispels our disagreement, really.

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            I’m fairly passionate about words, and I think words have a lot of power. When I see a headline saying he “lunged” at a reporter, I was expecting to see something very, very different. I have zero doubt that the word was used intentionally to draw exactly that kind of attention. Which beyond being annoying to me personally, it also undermines their credibility.

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      I suspect it’s deliberate to make other criticisms of him look like they are also wild exaggerations.

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        I suspect it’s deliberate way to exaggerate headlines to get more attention, that goes back well over 100 years in the news business

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          Either way it’s bad faith, the question is if it’s just the usual greed or if there’s more going on.

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    They went for him again due to his “business skills” and will again for the enabling party in '28 if people don’t wake up and understand all this clearly. The feedback loop is really insidious: system caused artificial scarcity → need for escape → passive consumption → mental numbing → vulnerable to manipulation → decisions made from a place of anxiety rather than clarity → reinforcement of the systems causing the stress in the first place.

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    Anyone have the actual video? The link does not, and a 5 minute startpage search didn’t find it either, god search engines suck now.

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            I’d say how it was supposed to work vs how its actually worked. One is a work of fiction on the level of twilight, the other is historically important. Capitalism can’t control or regulate itself. Not as long as people are in control.

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                Your reply is a bit puzzling. Were you intending to reply to someone else. Because you’re just agreeing with me?

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              It can, but it doesn’t. Whether that’s because people-are-evil or not is a different discussion. Strong regulation, judiciously applied, makes a fair market better.

              Of course money is the root of all evil, but then we like stuff.

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                No disrespect. If it “can” when did it ever? If never, then can it really?

                The one and only time we ever came close in the United States was around the new deal. But that was forced on the capitalist. And they spent the next hundred years dismantling it again.

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                  The 70s had some good progrss in several areas. Conservative/republican/fascist assholes focused on media right after that and that’s why it’s all been going to shit, but if we could shake off this fascist cult and elect a decent government they could get back on track.

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      The link does have the video you just have to scroll. They made it very small as well, but it’s there.

      I wouldn’t call it a lunge and that seems to be clickbait. He got closer and leaned in to tell a reporter to shut up basically.

      What I found interesting is how much his speech is slurring and how slowly he’s moving in general.

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        Indeed honestly it wasn’t a lunge. Just another misogynistic disrespect of another female reporter. He really doesn’t like woman questioning him.

        His health is getting bad, I’ve seen hm decline since after 2020, he’s a shell of the man he was then. He fell asleep, what is it now, 34 times or something at official events on camera this term so far? He has no internal filter left, openly admitting to patheticly giving himself awards and such.

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        Ah thanks!

        He really does have a thing with woman questioning or criticizing him, or blacks. He’s so much worse this term too.