• Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    1 hour ago

    I’ve spent 20 days waiting for a part from China to (hopefully) repair my 18 year old very basic fridge because I refuse to get some stupid fucking touchscreen internet connected advertising box.

    I fucking hate the modern world.

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      38 minutes ago

      its pretty easy to get a fridge still without a touch screen. The 1st two pages on costco here (I didn’t go further) don’t have one.

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    2 hours ago

    I have smart lights that can be controlled over the internet.
    If the internet connection goes down, I can also control them locally.
    If the local network fails, I have physical light switches.

    All smart devices should fail into a safe and functional mode when the smart features inevitably stop working. It seems Samsung doesn’t subscribe to that philosophy.

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      29 minutes ago

      Somehow, a billionaire will swear up and down that what you’re saying is beyond cost efficient as he donates his parent’s legacy and graves to his AI idol statues.

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    4 hours ago

    Why was it even able to fail that way to begin with?

    It’s not like the functional software in a refrigerator needs to be updated that often at all. You’d think that if the update fails catastrophically, it would fall back to a basic operating mode like a car does.

    Do they have a renting system or something in the works that’s meant to let them shut the device remotely?

  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    Nothing. Is made. Correctly. Anymore. I went to school for industrial design, and I can comfortably say design and how to communicate proper use are fucking dead. Some thing or website or service is made wrong every fucking time I turn around. It is relentless and unreal.

  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    This is dumb, but what’s even dumber is making a device that can even fail in that way to start with. I’d have expected the core refrigerator function to be isolated in some way from the rest of the device.

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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      Perhaps being able to turn the fridge off remotely was always part of the plan? We’re in the age of enshittification, where companies don’t see enforcing a mandatory subscription onto their pre-existing customers as problematic. I honestly wouldn’t put it past a modern company to keep such an ace up their sleeves just in case.

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    10 hours ago

    A refrigerator should never need an update. Smart appliances are the stupidest shit I ever heard of. A refrigerator should not need anything but an outlet and maybe a water connection.

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      9 hours ago

      look, i wouldn’t mind a dashboad where i could see when the dishwasher was run, that the rinse fluid is low, the temperature in the fridge ans freezer over time, how many times the ice machine refilled, when the AC on…

      smart devices could have been cool.

      what we got was the ability for the power company to turn of my fridge, requiring a broken app to run cycles on a dishwasher, and spying for no benefit in every device.

      The idea has promise and i hold a small glimmer of hope for home assistant. But, like so many things companies did not give anyone what they wanted.

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        One of the reasons techies are burning out is because they are tired of seeing the promise of a new tech and watching it be used to enable surveillance.

        For a fridge the functionality as an appliance shouldn’t be linked to the functionality as a device with a web browser. Ice bucket low? Sensor sends signal to app, fine. But the fridge doesn’t need to know that; it can keep using the float switch or whatever it used to before “smart”. Temperature tracking same thing - bolt a sensor and hook it to the app, but don’t use that app and sensor to control the fridge.

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          What would be really cool is if a fridge kept track of how fresh everything was, and alerted users when food spoiled, or was about to spoil, or on track to spoil given how seldom it was consumed.

          I can’t tell you how many times yogurt or sour cream has gone bad in my fridge because everyone forgets it’s in there.

          Also, detecting ice buildup and consequently adjusting humidity or water flow to the ice maker etc

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          I do too. But most commercial appliance integrations are hacks, and having missing featurea or dont really work most of the time. Many times I suspect skirting very close to violating TOS too.

          HA is great if you have matter or zigbee or zwave. Probably even some of the proprietary in building protocols too. But these one off cloud commercial systems honestly suck in my experience.

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        7 hours ago

        Give me a washer, dryer and dishwasher that send my phone an alerr when they finish please.

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          With home assistant we usually monitor a smart plug: instant power goes above x value -> cycle has started, power goes (close) to zero for x time -> cycle has ended, send notification. In my case I raise a flag value that reminds me periodically to unload the machine until I confirm that I’ve done it

          • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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            Doesn’t work for washers and dryers that use sensors to tell when the clothes are clean/dry.

            Thankfully, my set is “connected” in that you can connect to it to see status updates and adjust notification volume, but everything else is manual.

            My fridge also has monitoring, and tells you if the inside temperature goes outside range. It also lets you toggle the ice maker, notify you when it’s full and adjust temperature of the three compartments. I can see that last one triggering something similar to Samsung’s gaffe if a firmware update hard locked the temperatures to negative values or something.

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        7 hours ago

        I recently had to buy all new kitchen appliances. They are machines, as simple as is available. I do admit the fridge does have digital controls, and they’re kinda nice.

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        8 hours ago

        Agreed. The idea of reminders that I bought something in particular and should eat it before it goes bad is an appealing one. This seems like the opposite of that, though.

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        8 hours ago

        Honestly, this is not outside of possibility. My 3d printer does more complicated metrics. I’d be willing to bet we’d be able to do aftermarket mods for that if anyone was willing to DIY these days.