• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today
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    3 hours ago

    No amount of complaints will convince a conservative to voluntarily give up power. They must be forced out of power.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Ha, Democrats hate unions, good luck.

    In the 1950s, union workers were almost 50% of the workforce.

    Today, they are 10% (mostly government employees, ironically). Democrats say that they are pro union, sure. Just like Republicans say that they are for smaller government.

    They’re bOtH lying. When Rs are in office, government still balloons; when Ds are in office, unions are still squashed.

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      2 hours ago

      The democrats refused to make unions easier. And set up free trade agreements that make outsourcing easier.

      The Republicans enacted sweeping legislation and legal changes to limit unions’ effectiveness, then appointed anti-union judges and took executive action against unions.

      These two things are NOT the same.

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        Honestly, as someone who hates the “both sides” argument, watching the US and us here in Canada still hold onto the “both bad but one worse” bit while other countries are aggressively protesting is kinda saddening. The original commentor did, with the sponge-text, accept that they are not equally bad but they’re very right in saying that establishment Democrats, or the LPC here, are also actively trying to harm the working class. As a Canadian it’s actually worse because we literally have a well-known party, the NDP, who is always fighting for us even when they’re massively outnumbered and we just pretend they’re not there.

        We’ve accepted the lesser of two evils for too long. It’s about time we start fighting for something that’s actually good for us.

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          1 hour ago

          The problem is, not-voting your way out of it got us 8 years of Trump.

          If voting your way out of it doesn’t work, then not voting your way out of it is even worse. You’re going to have to come up with a third option, because neither side is going to be willing to cede power

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            I’m not saying that the solution is to stick your head in the sand, I’m saying there’s no real tenacity between the two of us. Neither country actually fights for anything. The US had nothing but the limpest possible protests against the most insane shit and, like I said, up here we literally have a third party that Canadians refuse to vote for despite them being super available.

            We’re not trapped in an abusive relationship, we’re here voluntarily. The good news is that that means we still have some level of control but the bad news is that it also means way too many of us are full-fucking-stupid.

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              There were many protests that never got a minute of media coverage. You would see piles of people in the streets on insta/twitter that would magically vanish and never be touched by any oligarch owned media (all of them)

              I’ll openly admit we never dialed it up to France, but if we assemble in the streets, even at no-kings masses, and politicians don’t fear, nothing can happen.

    • ElChinchilla@lemmy.world
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      Ive never been in a union, I have organized a few collective bargaining meetings. One was even successful!

      I consider myself a solo union, I know that sounds stupid. But, what i mean is, if I make a request, company level, pay, etc. If I am serious about it, my position entering the meeting is that I no longer work there, and practice brutal honesty/radical candor. If I leave with a job, it went my way. If it does not, no big deal, said what needed to be said and they get to stew in it.

      Admittedly, this only works well in roles youre pretty integral to a successful team or operation. Much more difficult to do in most roles. That is why unions are so crucial. One cashier not showing up to work for a week is not a big deal. 250,000 cashiers not working for a week is a legit problem for companies. Unions banding together is the ultimate move.

      Unions paid my uncle for 2 years when his legs got crushed in a mill accident. Negotiated him back on with a raise in an administrative role when he could not stand and perform the same role.

      99% of people are “workers” and we are all pro worker. Unions are the only pro worker entity.

      Democracy and Unions just make sense.

      • whalesnrainbows@lemmy.world
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        Fuck yeah he is! I don’t agree with his positions on everything (I’m definitely further left than he is), but on the most time-sensitive issues at present, he’s right where we need a senate leader to be.

        And more importantly, he seems to be the most ethical senator who is open to considering the role.

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          Where isn’t he far left enough? This is a genuine question because my knowledge of the man is a 5min read through his Wikipedia page lol

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            Well, for starters, I’m an anticapitalist, so I find fault with most politicians (clearly not to the extent that I won’t vote for them though).

            With that caveat in mind, the biggest complaint I have is actually with his current stated position on Israel. He currently opposes BDS (which is hardly surprising even for the most progressive Democratic politicians), and hasn’t come out in support of a complete arms embargo on Israel. He’s one of those politicians who pretends there’s a difference between the practical application of Israel’s use of “defensive” and “offensive” weapons.

            That being said, I think he can be moved farther left, because he cares more about representing the will of the people (or at least, the appearance of representing the will of the people) than Schumer or any of the other AIPAC-owned senators do.

  • Freeposity@lemmy.world
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    If he and Jeffries end up in leadership, then that’s a slap in the face of the voters who are very clear about their desire for new leadership.

    They really do think the voters are stupid and they don’t have to justify their actions to us.

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      The voters and the millions of people specifically demanding that they step down. This is getting more attention than they’re used to and that’s a good thing. Even Jefferies is trying to make us think he actually wants to do something.

      Let’s make the demands much louder.

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      It’s not that we are stupid, they know the ones that support them are stupid, or greedy, and the ones that vote for them as the safe choice are stupid.

      They know we are the smart ones, that’s why they sabotage us.

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      10 hours ago

      second slap, they are already voting with Republicans to gift money and protection to big oil

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    Democrats and leadership have lost so much ground in unions. New leadership that actually respects workers not sucking off corporations is needed.

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      Unions are like anything else democratic…

      When people feel like they don’t need to pay attention to leadership elections, shitty people get elected to leadership.

      At least the Machiniests seem to know what’s up.

      But don’t forget how many endorse Republicans and neoliberals to the determent of their members.

      • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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        10 hours ago

        Because the institutions that are supposed to protect them have lost the trust of the people they’re supposed to be representing. Institutions live and die on trust. If we don’t figure out how to foster those relationships of trust at scale, people will continue to find a comfortable lie to live in.

  • lennybird@lemmy.world
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    Power is never ceded willingly. If we’ve already established that Schumer and Jeffries operate in bad faith a la Sinema and Fetterman, then the pressure must come from those newly elected reps and those on the ballot in 2028.

    It’s imperative that Democrats distance themselves from Israel as much as they can by '28, and that’s impossible if Schumer and Jeffries are still leading.

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    A democrat by any other name is still a democrat. People demanded Pelosi step down, so we got Pelosi in blackface. The oligarchy will always defend it’s existence