• balderdash@lemmy.zip
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    The people need to save this country. Yes that means you and me actually going outside. We need to stop expecting systemic change to come from politicians within a two-party system.

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    Rather than try to start a new party, it’s easier and more efficient for the left and progressives to take control of the Democratic party and make it their own (can rename it later). Just like the right took over the Repub party.

    The time is ripe for it – yes, a bit too ripe, maybe even too late, but unfortunately that’s how it works with humans–it takes things to get to extremely dire circumstances where all could be lost for the general population to be jolted out of complacency and finally take action.

    BUT the other thing we need is someone with charisma and a certain personality type to emerge and lead, because most humans need to be led like sheep.

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      I’ll vote for a Bernie AOC ticket if it ever materializes but I won’t hold my breath. You people keep expecting politicians to save you when we need to be taking a note from the French. Grassroots organization: labor strikes, boycotts, civil disobedience. It’s the only thing these leeches understand.

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    The democrat party is worthless, but not all democrats are. I don’t agree with all their policies, but there’s still a few Democrats worth listening to.

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      Absolutely. Dems are at an all time low of approval as far as I’m aware. This is the opportune time to make a new one. Enough with the weak responses to a threat that not only throws the US into chaos, but the rest of the world as well.

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    So many comments about them starting a new political party and I don’t want to disagree but if democrats already have less votes than republicans now, wouldn’t that make it even harder to win an election?

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    We need a democratic party that fights … just that … that will do something besides just expose their belly.

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    Their average age is just under 60. I’d vote for it, if I we’re still allowing that kind of thing

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        The fact they exist and got us nowhere near a unified working class movement.

        They’re all sectarian and pointless. The party that takes us there will be formed by the popular working class movement

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    Dems are just a bunch of empty chairs.

    Sucks, but it’s also an opportunity. Plenty of space for progressives to move in and take over.

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      It’s mostly the consultant class morons that suck. Both parties used to be full of consultants until 2010-2015 with the rise of the tea party / trumpism. The GOP kicked most of the consultants to the curb, but the Democrats are still running campaigns like it’s 2008 and the voters give a shit about the color tie the candidate is wearing.

      Harris would’ve been a good candidate had she not been market researched to death.

      I obviously don’t agree with TDS-having morons that believe that all experts are useless, but expertise should really be evaluated every once in a while. It’s clear to me from my field that professional management and consultants are often goldbricking idiots with impressive resumes and few actual professional accomplishments.

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    They are both uncharismatic leaders. Bernie is old. Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t understand economics

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      You likely don’t know shit about economics. That’s why you still think it’s important to vaguely allude to economics as an important element to understand in politics when really it’s just a smoke screen used to tell people that policies that make their lives miserable are all very well and good actually. 🧐🎩

      Economic “experts” running policy on the basis of laughably bad classroom economic theory – save those from the behavioral economics realm that generate testable, falsifiable hypotheses – are a big reason why the middle class has gone down the tubes in this country for 50 years.