Government is a tool, and whoever is powerful enough can and will use that tool to pursue their interests. Yes, the government serves the rich under capitalism, but the problem is the power of the rich, not the tool. Throwing out the idea of government or limiting it is foolish because 1) it’s throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and 2) if you’re in a position to limit the size of the government, you can just use it to do good things instead.
I don’t know what you said, but I can safely assume you’ve been conditioned to believe that government is evil no matter what.
That kind of indoctrination is hard to overcome, especially when you dig your heels deeper every time you discuss it.
Try to keep in mind that you’ve been conditioned to work against your own interests by people richer than you. These people recognize the threat government poses to their wealth, so they peddle rhetoric to people like you to get you to vote against your own interests.
It’s very effective.
Libertarians that aren’t making money off of the ideology just haven’t grown up yet. Once you look at the libertarians who have renounced their libertarianism, it becomes obvious who’s a child and who’s an adult.
The state under a dictatorship of the booj exists to suppress the proles and mediate conflicts between booj so they can more effectively suppress the proles. Proletarian dictatorship states are based af though.
Because every single conservative is an armband wearing Nazi kkk member racist that hates anything that is new and every Democrat is a child eating baby rapist. Couldn’t possibly be that average. People exist generally want the same things and that caricatures of rival political idealogies are not always the most accurate.
Polish libertarians are mostly libertarian-christo-nazi-monarchist mix, and before you ask, i don’t see much sense in this either, but they manage somehow.
It’s such a great example of libertarianism in action that I ask every libertarian I see what their solution is. Surprisingly, nobody has answered yet.
My favorite thing is basically every libertarian is their own flavor, and every other person isn’t a “real libertarian.” They’re even less unified that Christianity as a whole, and that’s saying something.
Shitting in the town well is an act of aggression against the entire town. So is wanton neglect that causes a mauling. So the normal case of operation in a libertarian based societt would be to charge the responsible party with the crime against the injured party. Find evidence to support that claim and then convict them in a court of their peers.
Most people don’t understand that libertarianism is a double-edged sword or rather that it should be applied as such. You’re free to do what you want, but you’re not free of the consequences of your actions.
You’re getting shat on pretty hard. Geoism is at least trying to critic and solve economic problems.
Still most libertarians will get in line with harmful ancap ideas out of the naive all regulations are bad. Its also always the laughable privatization of roads or getting rid of OSHA. Bonus points if they have a Melei shaped dildo.
I’m empathic to the leave me alone vibe of some libertarian, but if you still identify as them please do some self reflection that your party only seriously promotes harmful stuff associated withthem.
Eh, arguing is fairly pointless and it’s fair for them to point out that with the MC in charge of the LP the other types of libertarians no longer matter.
By that logic since Trump won and narrowly scraped a win out of the election putting them in charge. The Democrats no longer matter. What’s the point of having resistance to compete with the People’s choice of fascistic rule.
Sounds kind of silly when I say it like that doesn’t it?. Just a wild thought you know maybe that instead of focusing on a cultural war that doesn’t need to exist, we can focus on the more class-bound issues.
But it’s okay. I’m the enemy because Cheks notes the little letter next to my political party didn’t agree with your pre conceived notions of what libertarianism is. But I’m sure all Republicans and Democrats are exact charachactures of pure evil just like my social media drivels as I lack the ability to see the best in people or to realize generalizing groups of people is not a good look.
I do understand your frustration though the MC can suck my entire dick
Sure, why not but I’ve been fighting this notion that all libertarians are An-Caps for 20 years and the rise of the MC has turned an uphill battle into a nearly impossible one.
There’s really no question that the MC are owned and operated by the string pullers of the Republican Party. They’re doing it in order to to keep the people who do care about Small Government and Individual Liberty from leaving the Republican Party over the MAGA horseshit.
We’re not all ancaps
All libertarians want policies that will allow major corporations to walk all over them, whether they realize it and have a problem with it or not.
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Government is a tool, and whoever is powerful enough can and will use that tool to pursue their interests. Yes, the government serves the rich under capitalism, but the problem is the power of the rich, not the tool. Throwing out the idea of government or limiting it is foolish because 1) it’s throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and 2) if you’re in a position to limit the size of the government, you can just use it to do good things instead.
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I don’t know what you said, but I can safely assume you’ve been conditioned to believe that government is evil no matter what.
That kind of indoctrination is hard to overcome, especially when you dig your heels deeper every time you discuss it.
Try to keep in mind that you’ve been conditioned to work against your own interests by people richer than you. These people recognize the threat government poses to their wealth, so they peddle rhetoric to people like you to get you to vote against your own interests.
It’s very effective.
Libertarians that aren’t making money off of the ideology just haven’t grown up yet. Once you look at the libertarians who have renounced their libertarianism, it becomes obvious who’s a child and who’s an adult.
Yes
The state under a dictatorship of the booj exists to suppress the proles and mediate conflicts between booj so they can more effectively suppress the proles. Proletarian dictatorship states are based af though.
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It’s the 98% that make the other 2% look bad.
Because every single conservative is an armband wearing Nazi kkk member racist that hates anything that is new and every Democrat is a child eating baby rapist. Couldn’t possibly be that average. People exist generally want the same things and that caricatures of rival political idealogies are not always the most accurate.
… Wait, you think libertarian is the average?
No, I don’t
Polish libertarians are mostly libertarian-christo-nazi-monarchist mix, and before you ask, i don’t see much sense in this either, but they manage somehow.
Well that’s a definitely a new branch of the libertarian ideological family for me. I much prefer geoism lockhism and minarchism.
How do those -isms deal with bears?
The project has been associated with an increase in the number and aggressiveness of black bears in town, including entering homes, mauling people, and eating pets. A single, definitive cause for the abnormal behavior of the bears has not been proven, but it may be due to libertarian residents who refuse to buy and use bear-resistant containers, who do not dispose of waste materials (such as feces) safely, or who deliberately put out food to attract the bears to their own yards, but do not feel any responsibility for how their behavior affects their neighbors. [29]
It’s such a great example of libertarianism in action that I ask every libertarian I see what their solution is. Surprisingly, nobody has answered yet.
My favorite thing is basically every libertarian is their own flavor, and every other person isn’t a “real libertarian.” They’re even less unified that Christianity as a whole, and that’s saying something.
My second favorite thing about libertarianism is this shitpost article turned copypasta https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertarian-police-department
Shitting in the town well is an act of aggression against the entire town. So is wanton neglect that causes a mauling. So the normal case of operation in a libertarian based societt would be to charge the responsible party with the crime against the injured party. Find evidence to support that claim and then convict them in a court of their peers.
Most people don’t understand that libertarianism is a double-edged sword or rather that it should be applied as such. You’re free to do what you want, but you’re not free of the consequences of your actions.
I always think less of people when I see them jerking themselves off over isms and sects.
Truly missing the forest for the trees.
You’re getting shat on pretty hard. Geoism is at least trying to critic and solve economic problems.
Still most libertarians will get in line with harmful ancap ideas out of the naive all regulations are bad. Its also always the laughable privatization of roads or getting rid of OSHA. Bonus points if they have a Melei shaped dildo.
I’m empathic to the leave me alone vibe of some libertarian, but if you still identify as them please do some self reflection that your party only seriously promotes harmful stuff associated withthem.
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Eh, arguing is fairly pointless and it’s fair for them to point out that with the MC in charge of the LP the other types of libertarians no longer matter.
By that logic since Trump won and narrowly scraped a win out of the election putting them in charge. The Democrats no longer matter. What’s the point of having resistance to compete with the People’s choice of fascistic rule.
Sounds kind of silly when I say it like that doesn’t it?. Just a wild thought you know maybe that instead of focusing on a cultural war that doesn’t need to exist, we can focus on the more class-bound issues.
But it’s okay. I’m the enemy because Cheks notes the little letter next to my political party didn’t agree with your pre conceived notions of what libertarianism is. But I’m sure all Republicans and Democrats are exact charachactures of pure evil just like my social media drivels as I lack the ability to see the best in people or to realize generalizing groups of people is not a good look.
I do understand your frustration though the MC can suck my entire dick
Sure, why not but I’ve been fighting this notion that all libertarians are An-Caps for 20 years and the rise of the MC has turned an uphill battle into a nearly impossible one.
There’s really no question that the MC are owned and operated by the string pullers of the Republican Party. They’re doing it in order to to keep the people who do care about Small Government and Individual Liberty from leaving the Republican Party over the MAGA horseshit.
Is ancap not synonymous with libertarian? Either way, you all lack understanding of what the government needs to do for an area to function
In modern American usage, more or less. “Libertarian” used to be much broader - ancaps cleaved it off of libertarian socialism in the 20th c.
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That’s like saying that all Democrats are liberal progressives… And you’re assuming a bit much there. Some of us do believe in government.