Just came up with my father again.
He blames me that mother forgot her phone’s and Google password because I recommended against it being a word.
I mentioned encryption, “not necessary unless you’re doing something illegal”.
When mentioning lack of privacy with targeted advertisements, he said that he actually really likes them, because he bought a couple of things he wanted for years.

I don’t really have good arguments.

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    “arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” -Edward Snowden

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    I posted the following somewhere else recently:

    “nothing to hide”

    Secrecy and privacy are two different things.

    Secrecy is hiding something you don’t want anyone to know because it’s “Bad/illegal”.

    Privacy is acknowledging that it’s none of ANYONE’S business where you put gas in your car, what route you drive home, what brand of underwear you buy, what kind of music you listen to, your eating habits, etc…

    The more you are ok with data being collected, the more data they will try to collect until finally your life isn’t yours anymore.

    You don’t close the bathroom door because you’re doing something illegal, you close the bathroom door because it’s none of anyone’s business and you aren’t interested in being watched.

    Our personal data is valuable and holds power over us. Unfortunately it’s only been recent decades that this concept REALLY started to sink in and unfortunately big corporations figured it out a little quicker than we did

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    I’m reminded of a story I heard about a woman in South America (I don’t remember the country.) Her best friend attended a protest one year. She makes a post on Facebook about supporting her best friend. A few years pass, and the government started becoming more and more authoritarian. Finally, she gets a visit from the police, asking about her ties to her best friend, and is threatened with arrest unless she can prove she’s not tied to the protest as well.

    I’m probably getting some details wrong, but it’s a thought that stuck with me. She didn’t have anything to hide at the time. But things change, and you can’t always predict what you’ll have wish you had kept private before.

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    “I need privacy not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgement and intentions are.”

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    Compare it to free speech. Saying you don’t need privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don’t need free speech because you have nothing to say. Eventually, through no fault of your own, there will come a time when you have something worth saying or hiding, and you will regret having surrendered your right to do so.

    Another way to put it is: I don’t need privacy because my judgment and intentions are shady, but because the authorities’ judgment and intentions are, or one day will be. Allowing the authorities to invade your privacy and suppress your speech diminishes your ability to hold them accountable.

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    “If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.”

    Cardinal Richelieu

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    While targeted advertisements may be nice because it’s only showing you things that they think that you’ll want/need/like, the other side of surveillance based advertising is surveillance pricing.

    Surveillance pricing analyzes massive troves of your personal information to predict the price you would be willing to pay for an item—and charge you accordingly. Retailers can charge a higher price when it thinks you can afford to spend more—on payday, for example. Or when you need something the most, such as in an emergency.

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/08/fight-surveillance-pricing-we-need-privacy-first

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    Great, can you give me your phone and unlock it so I can scroll through it?

    You have nothing to hide right? Also if you could keep the door to the bathroom open that’d be great!

    Usually gets the point across very quickly

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    First and foremost, I equate privacy with dignity and respect.

    But now it’s also a matter of self defense. A woman in Texas does not want to be caught looking up abortion clinics. An immigrant searching for legal council could find themselves visited by ICE. An idle comment that you are anti-fascist could end up labeling you as a domestic terrorist. A tasteless joke you posted as a teenager could cost you a job as an adult.

    Fifteen years ago my mother was on Facebook and the algorithm figured out she had breast cancer. She was flooded with quack cures and ads for clinics in Mexico. She didn’t fall for, but if she had, it could have killed her.

    It isn’t just about Amazon trying to sell you a toilet seat. The stakes are higher than that.

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    Something you don’t need to hide today may be something you need to hide tomorrow. And there’s no going back.

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    “Do you shit with the door open?”

    “Why? Are you hiding something?”

    “To make sure you’re not hiding anything, I need you to shit with the door open from now on.”

    Eventually, they’ll justify their need for privacy. When they do, agree with them.

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    It is sadly something that some people will never understand. You could question why he does the things he does (closing curtains, using envelopes for letters instead of just using a postcard, having a password at all), but that would likely just make him feel attacked.

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    I don’t have anything to hide does not imply that anyone needs to know. Not you, not a neighbor, not the internet, and absolutely not the government.