these comments are something…
Dang. This is cold hearted. I live close to work I suppose.
yea, like 90% of the criticisms I as an american hear towards this war is that we “aren’t doing it right.” and that “when we bombed Iraq we did it right.” just that we aren’t massacring people correctly, no problem with the massacring itself. of course, these same people absolutely would not accept that all this bloodshed is literally just to keep up with the hyper inflated fuel economy of the light truck tanks that litter our shitty fucking roads. which is an impossible task on it’s own btw even if the US got oil out of this the trucks will simply get bigger, and their fuel economy will simply get worse unless fundamental change happens.
The comic hurts because it’s uncomfortably accurate.
I’m thankful I live in a country where I have the same issues only
And this is the best case scenario. It’s either this or they literally think they’re meaningless collateral in the West’s noble mission to save the world.
NYT literally just said that Iranians like to be bombed
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media It should be a must-read for every high schooler but the government absolutely would never allow that.
Just a reminder: Noam Chomsky was Epstein’s friend.
Also afaik most of the book was written by Edward S. Herman, who nobody remembers because he wasn’t a sellout and didn’t make a career as the face of controlled opposition.
indeed, which is why i prefer to recommend Inventing Reality by Michael Parenti.
Also Chomsky was an establishment scholar, his early rise was propped up by military funds and the such meanwhile Parenti stood up by his principles and was never allowed in academia.
Ok but he was right about powerful people controlling the media.
But also like fuck off America, you bitch about petrol prices when you make the majority of your own fuel, your fuel is still comparitively cheap and affected by supply interruptions compared to the rest of the world.
Your not hurting as much as you make out to be on the news, and maybe if you didnt drive cars that use 10L/Km you wouldnt even notice the price change.yes, the US is much more insulated from the consequences of its government’s actions than other nations, and citizens here have absolutely no awareness of what life is like outside the US (though tbh, I don’t think most Americans are aware of what life is like for their fellow citizens - there is a profound capacity to rationalize their own suffering and to victim-blame others for the needless suffering they experience).
americans dont bitch about petrol prices
nobody says petrol
its gas
Its gasoline, not gas. It’s a liquid.
Gas is gaseous and used in stoves.
*it’s
Rick doesn’t buy gas. Hell. Even Morty doesn’t.
I hope my fellow countrymen suffer immensely. I want us to be dragged into downright suicide inducing economic despair.
Don’t worry buddy, many of us are already there.
Can’t get a passport to leave, can hardly afford my meds or food, so I’m sure suicide will come sooner rather than later and you’ll get the chance to crack your knuckles and sit smug in your chair feeling so good about how your fellow countrymen got their comeuppance for the axis of Epstein’s evil deeds. Shit, if the homelessness doesn’t get me, I’m sure you can count on ICE to sooner or later.
I personally didn’t want any of this, in fact I advocated hard against it and still do but yeah, fuck us all.
I personally didn’t want any of this,
Neither did I.
in fact I advocated hard against it and still do but yeah, fuck us all.
But now we’re here. Do you know why? Because its quite possible we disagree on why we’re here. And it might be irrational but I can’t help but feel like I want the people who are wrong about that question to suffer.
I’m quite bitter about stupid people dragging me into a radioactive trashfire. If I must experience dying in a fire, I’m hoping the moron who dragged me in with them dies more slowly via radiation sickness.
You’re here because the dickheads in charge took you there. Short of full-on regicide theres nothing you personally can do about it. You feel guilty because your lives are relatively minimally impacted while on the other end of this war lives are destroyed, but you have no control here.
You’re right to be angry, and its understandable to feel guilty when you lament your minor upheavals, but fuck it. What can you do?
What can you do?
You said it yourself
in fact I advocated hard against it
In a way that makes a difference?
I like you. Scotch (Aberlour 16, Glenfarclas 25, private bottling of Royal Brackla) for you if you’re in Montreal.
I feel like I could ask any random guy on the street how many American soldiers have died so far, and they’d tell me 7, but if I asked them how many little girls died when they bombed that school, they’d be like “fake news, we’d never bomb a school.”
Sadly I think you are right.
To be fair, some if might be fake news. Iran has propaganda too.
Don’t take this in any way to be pro US or IL.wasn’t there a recent investigation and initial confirmation by the Pentagon and NYT that the US was responsible?
of course the motivation and will is there for Iran to stage a “false flag” operation to damage the reputation of the US and present themselves as victims to the rest of the world, but the specifics of this case quickly dispel that notion, such as the school being adjacent to an Iranian navy base, and the school house having been previously used by the navy and only later converted to a school, as well as analysis of footage that confirmed the missile that struck the school was a missile the US has access to but Iran does not … so it is far more likely the US just didn’t update their intel and had old target data.
I believe there is some Iranian state media pictures of the aftermath where the exif data date said 2020 for one picture, a close up I believe, and then a wider shot the exif date is 2026, though it doesn’t appear that the pictures are shot with different cameras where one of them may have an incorrect date. It looks like the same photo just cropped.
Anyway I’m not trying to diminish Iranians. Any loss of life is terrible and the aggressors are terrible. I’m just saying it’s hard to know of the exact truth of these situations.
I saw a reel with a comedian who said something to the effect of, "hey did you ever noticed that Wars are just conservatives of a certain country attacking conservatives of another country? It’s like they hold a mirror up and see their reflection and get pissed about it. "
Wild ass take. This isn’t something that only Iranian news is reporting. Show some respect for the dead children at the very least.
Lol. It’s not a, “wild ass take”, as you so eloquently vomited.
It’s more like a pragmatic ass take.
Not sure what you mean about showing these children respect, because that’s not how respect works, and certainly you’re not the one who decides how respect is doled.
If you mean to say do I care about children, the answer is absolutely and of course, and the guy who pressed the button to launch any weapon to kill innocent children on purpose should have his knob guillotined off.
But that’s not my point. I’m talking about propaganda.It isn’t propaganda either. It’s just a fact. The US bombed an all girls school in Iran. A double tap, in fact. That’s where they drop one bomb and then when everyone goes outside to see what’s happening and help, they drop another one. It’s designed specifically to maximize casualties.
So go ahead and talk about propaganda all you want. But maybe do it somewhere else, where it’s actually relevant.
Now, this is just silly. I’d think the US have capability to destroy a school in one strike if they wanted to. What you’re saying is the US specifically have to strike twice, because they don’t have a means to reduce a civilian building to rubble. And what’s the point, anyway? Now with all the whiplash, they couldn’t predict this beforehand? Or, if it was intentional, they would have a specific goal in mind?
I’m as much outraged as you are, don’t get me wrong. I just think it was a terrible mistake on the US part on par with starting this conflict all together
What you’re saying is the US specifically have to strike twice, because they don’t have a means to reduce a civilian building to rubble
No, that’s not remotely what they said, and you know it, you dishonest bastard
It’s less silly and more completely beyond fucked but alright.
Neither the US, nor Israel, deserve the benefit of the doubt right now.
Actually true.
Feel the same way about people wringing their hands over dead US soldiers, as though they’re the only people who matter.
A Thai shipping frigate just got hit in the Straight of Hormuz, and I have seen absolutely nobody on national news raise the question of whether any of the crew were injured or killed. Similarly, Israel and the UAE have been incredibly close-mouthed about civilian deaths from Iranian attacks into civilian areas, because they consider it a public embarrassment. Nobody seems to want to talk about the “collateral damage”.
And then there’s the death toll in Iran itself. I was getting ear-blasted with “Iranian Government Murders 10,000! 20,000! 30,000! people!” for weeks. Suddenly, Iranian deaths don’t matter, unless they’re high ranking politicians or military figures.
This reeks of the same coverage we got out of Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan, and Ethiopia. National news is entirely contained within jingoistic nationalist terms. We’re covering (and increasingly gambling) on the outcome like its a basketball game.
Vile.
I believe everyone from that Thai ship survived, at least haven’t seen casualties mentioned. The boat wasn’t like destroyed, but it did get hit by some explosives.
Might have been a warning. Small attack, not intended to actually sink the ship, but enough to warn others Iran is serious about closing the straight.
What is a Thai shipping frigate?
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Credit the artist!
It’s yeehawtheboys
cool, I just saw it on my mastodon feed and had no idea who it was by
The news is reporting on the dead children? That’s news to me.
Yes? They literally are?
People like that don’t let a little thing like reality get in the way of their performative cynicism.
Perspective on the drawing hurts my brain
