- cross-posted to:
- Cyberstuck@lemmy.ca
- cross-posted to:
- Cyberstuck@lemmy.ca
Another day, another Cybertruck being towed from somewhere nobody really ought to need a tow from. Take a look, Toyota Sienna to the rescue.
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The amount of pick ups that get stuck on beaches will never not be funny.
Like, yah, cool, you got it lifted, you put big off road tires on it. It’s still got shit ground pressure, it’s too fucking heavy for that kind of terrain, especially with such comparatively small wheels. There are pickups that can be modified to handle beaches and sand, but they’re the smaller ones that aren’t starting with a massive handicap from weight.
There is a reason dune buggies are small and light, there is a reason tanks have tracks.
But doing it with a cyber truck is an extra level of stupid.
That video has a distinctive lack of people pointing and laughing and I am so disappointed.
Maybe everyone was tired from all the pointing and laughing when the Cyberidiot first turned up at the beach?
I don’t get why people use cars to drive onto beaches. Why not park nearby then walk a bit?
Sounds like someone has never driven on a beach.
I live somewhere that has miles of beaches and some are world class fishing spots that are really only reasonable to get to if you drive when you consider all the gear you carry with you. There are plenty of spots you can just pull off the side of the road or park in a lot and have a great day at the beach, but not everything is walk accessible for some sports like surfing or fishing.
More than a pole, backpack and tackle box to fish? Sounds like too much work to be fishing.
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Nah. Retarded people are too mentally slow to know better. These people are just entitled, lazy assclowns.
As someone who lives in a region that gets a lot of snow, I know that basically any vehicle can get stuck. When you get unlucky, or do something dumb, you can end up in a position where you simply don’t have any traction.
But that’s the thing, you can usually avoid the situation by not doing something dumb, like driving right up onto the beach. And if you are driving on an unstable surface like sand or snow, accelerate slowly and decisively, don’t floor it and then stop or you’ll roll back into the rut you just made.
I’d also assume sand driving is like snow driving in that appropriate tires are far more critical to performance than the vehicle drivetrain
Edit: holy crap I can write coherent sentences! honest!
I think I read at one point also lowering the pressure in the tire helps as well, but not sure how low you could safely go. You want more surface area on sand.
Edit: someone lower in the comments says 15psi
Yeah I’ve seen that for bikes but also sand and gravel works very differently from snow under tires
And weight is a factor too. The lbs/in on that things tires has to be far more than any other offroader, and wet sand is going to give far sooner than dry, packed sand. Snow and ice might actually be more stable than sand in most cases, the physics are different.
Usually beer, laziness, and american football tailgating culture
they think it can move on water or through it.
The cybertrash is the dumbest & ugliest vehicle i ve seen. Whoever bought one was very clearly in dire need to make a political statement, and only had a tangential need in a car
It’s either political or tgey fell fir the badass Armageddon vehicle that can drive over your vehicle if i want to schtick. Either way, it has to be some sort of IQ teat that people just failed. It’s even more disappointing when they leave burger country.
I was in Florida this lasr weekend and saw a CRAZY amount - like a dozen a day
And then the Swasticar exploded.
And everybody clapped.
Source:
A mom in a Toyota Sienna pulls a Cybertruck out of a treacherous sandpitWhat 4WD truck is unable to get out of this?
The Toyota probably has front wheel drive only.And who didn’t get the memo yet that Cybertrucks are notoriously useless in any real offroad situation.
Fuck Elon, Fuck TESLA and it’s a disguised blessing because it helps other e-car manufacturers get a slice of market. Yay!
the fuck is he doing with the steering wheel
So… this is actuality the only part of this video I didn’t laugh at…
In sand and snow, keeping the wheels stationary only serves to dig the hole you’re in deeper and deeper. Turning the wheels back and forth serves to widen and possibly lower the angle of the slope of the hole you find your tires digging, this making it easier to dislodge the vehicle. I’m my experience, its hit or ms whether it helps, but it’s far from the worst thing to try.
The recent Toyota Sienna has 4WD option and can very good power by using the battery. After seeing the Technology Connections video I think if you want a bigger car the Sienna is the best.
I inherited an older Sienna last year and its been eye-opening just how incredibly practical minivans are for almost any use case where one might want/need a large vehicle. I keep saying that most truck drivers who actually want to haul shit don’t realize that what they actually want is a minivan. Same goes for most large SUV drivers. Just get a minivan!
the Sienna has been the best choice for a couple decades now
The article says thats its one of the rare 2 wheelers
Says that it Could be one of the <200 sold
Yes, you only see the rear wheels spin. Also, the Toyota looks to not be in the sand pit.
Any situation. Even the boot leaks water apparently, and the official solution is to use tubs
I legit can’t think of why you would buy it, as there are other EV Utes out there which seem better
The only good thing is that like the VW Beetle there might be collectors value in this (or like the Yugo)
Torque vectoring. Is 10/10
On one level i do have pity for anyone who got grifted by a nazi and wasted a bunch of money only to commit themselves to an endless stream of repairs and recalls while getting laughed at everywhere they go, all for a shit car with no resale value.
Regular Tesla drivers who bought their vehicle several years ago, before Musk showed very clear signs of being a Nazi POS? Yeah I have some sympathy for them.
But Cybertruck users knew exactly who they were buying from. They deserve no sympathy.
Pity, not sympathy. They still got grifted and will be laughed anywhere they go. I pity them that.
You mean in 2013?
Well, not the first few batches of cyber truck. I think it went up for preorder before musk showed he was a nazi, and sold through probably 3-4 batches.
But after that? I agree with you.
You were able to cancel those preorders. It’s not like they already paid for the truck. Worst case was people who paid the 1k to make it a binding order rather than a reservation on a waiting list. (Suckers. Why would you preorder a car?!)
Literal nazi, yeah, but in … checks notes … Nov '23 it was long known that he was off his rockers in a very right-wing way. And I mean widely known through his Twitter nazification and his association with the bigliest of them all.
It was already known in the '10s who he really was.
Oh, fair enough.
I’m extremely impressed by everyone’s actions in the video. Normally people who are stuck think you need to spin the wheels at 100mph to get unstuck rather than maintaining traction by using very little throttle. People using straps or chains typically think you need to “get a run at it” and take up the slack by accelerating away at 30mph, only to have their bumper ripped off. Here, both drivers did an excellent job.
I don’t know why but I’ve been watching Matt’s Offroad Recovery videos and they often do the fast yank with one of their vehicles.
Sounds like a great way to end up with a bent frame lol
they use “kinetic recovery ropes” which are basically fancy bungee cords - instead of a hammer blow when it pulls tight, it stretches like a rubber band so it puts a lot of pressure over time instead of all at once.
They use special “snatch straps” that are made specifically for that, not standard tow straps or chains.
People using straps or chains typically think you need to “get a run at it” and take up the slack by accelerating away at 30mph, only to have their bumper ripped off
If it was attached to the bumper, it was never going to work anyway.
“getting a run at it” often does work if slow and steady doesn’t work (i.e the pulling vehicle doesn’t have enough traction). But you need enough slack to get the pulling car moving. If you just give it throttle on the spot, you’ll dig in and have two stuck cars, at which point you might as well get a tractor to save time on pulling them out.
If you’re going off roading though, there’s other equipment to help you out. Have a shovel in the trunk. Some sort of boards or something that you can put under the wheels so they stop digging deeper through the dirt. I reckon could’ve gotten that cyberdumpster out with no pulling, not that I’d take that thing off roading (or drive it in the first place).
What most surprises me is that in the video they actually put something under the wheels of the cyberdumpster so clearly someone there has previous experience getting vehicles unstuck. If it was the cyberdumpster driver, it begs the question of why he’d take such a ridiculous vehicle off roading anyway. I’ve had better luck in FWD sedans, let alone cars with torsen-based AWD (Quattro!) or proper 4wd with lockable diffs.
“getting a run at it” often does work if slow and steady doesn’t work (i.e the pulling vehicle doesn’t have enough traction). But you need enough slack to get the pulling car moving.
This is never a good idea as straps and chains have no “give” so all that energy you’re putting into the strap will be released instantly once it goes tight, which will impart the same amount of force as if you were crashing into one another at the same speed (possibly worse since cars have crumple zones to reduce impact forces). Many people have died doing this when the part they’re attached to shears off and gets launched through the window of the opposing vehicle along with the strap/chain.
They make recovery ropes that are specifically designed for this purpose that act like a giant rubber band and spread this force out over several seconds so you can pull with more speed safely.
Boonhet is correct on this. The rescue vehicle getting a running start, that works and does not damage the vehicle when done correctly (it’s slower than you might think).
You can watch a Youtube video if you want to see it done correctly, but the straps designed for the purpose are cheap, I’ve got one in my Tacoma just in case.
Oh I’ve never seen ropes without “give”. There’s always been elasticity in every towing rope I’ve used. They’re sold in every gas station so I’ve never seen the point in using some random ass rope that I don’t know the strength of.
Man that tow strap is going to a comically mysterious place inside the cabin. I cannot believe whatever it was attached to didn’t break
they just used the seatbelt
what’s the difference between a 200 pound average male passenger and a 2026 Cybertruck RWD at 6,117 pound curb weight?
It’s mostly in your head, I feel like.
For a moment there I wondered how can someone be seen in this situation and not die of embarrassment but them I remembered only huge assholes own those.
Happy Alec Watson noise
cathartic
Note that the van was on hard packed sand that is below the high tide line, and the Cybertruck is on the soft stuff.
This is mostly a reflection on the bozo driving the Cybertruck rather than the vehicle itself.
Yet, Cybertrucks are POS Nazi rigs.
Didn’t say they weren’t.
Bears repeating anyway.
Oh screw you, look at the wheels in the video.
It looks like both the front and the back are about to fall off…
No they don’t? I don’t like Musk or Tesla but this happens all the time where I live because people don’t deflate their tires to ~15psi before driving on soft sand. Doesn’t matter what 4wd vehicle you use, if you don’t deflate, you are much more likely to get stuck.
I don’t give a shit how fast you can operate a steering wheel, those floppy front tires simply cannot turn back and forth / left and right that fast under proper operating conditions.
The vehicle is clearly damaged, as are all Cyberdumpsters, by definition.
https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews/the-tesla-cybertrucks-steering-broke-my-brain
Cybertruck steering doesn’t work like other vehicles, it’s a steer by wire system, which is how the driver can go from lock to lock like that.
I don’t know why you’re getting so hung up on this.
Wheels (under human control) simply cannot steer that fast.
Something is wrong, and I think the vehicle is being steered by a squirrel brain.
You ever been out on a field doing donuts and tearing the grass up? Yeah, I have, I grew up on a junkyard, and I promise you that no human can steer the wheel back and forth that fast.
So I assume AI/Autopilot was at play here to steer like a spazzed out squirrel brain, while the goal was to simply go backwards.
Something seriously fucking wrong here…
Didn’t read the article, did you?
Don’t need to. There’s tight steering, there’s loose steering, and anything in between. And then there’s an AI powered fucking retarded steering that doesn’t comprehend how to go in reverse, in a singular simple reverse direction, but would rather twist its wheels left and right as fast as possible, to try to bury itself deeper in the sand…
The cybertruck is steer by wire. You can program it to do whatever the hell you want. If you wanted you could make it so turning the wheel 1 inch turns them lock to lock.
Plus if you’re stuck you’re gonna be sawing like crazy on the wheel.
The range of motion of the steering wheel is a bit over 180 degrees, with steering angle change ramping up the further you turn the wheel.
It’s genuinely fascinating technology actually, somewhat wasted on a vehicle as silly as the Cybertruck.
Goal is backwards, over the logs they jammed under the wheels. The vehicle should be cooperating with the humans and strictly drive in reverse, not to try driving with the steering control of a spazzed out squirrel brain on crack cocaine…
They are “floppy” because they likely deflated them after getting stuck. But if you want to let hatred blind your reasoning, go ahead.
Oh fuck you and go learn how to work on a vehicle. The fucking RIMS are flopping at the same rate, that ain’t got shit to do with the tire pressure.
Also note, Tesla recalled some of their Cyberfucks for the wheels falling off. Please try to stay up to date…
There’s nothing wrong with the rims at all. You are just a very angry, irrational person.
It’s kinda weird. They want the Cybertruck to be the problem so badly, and it just isn’t. And yet, they just keep arguing with everyone.
And insulting anyone who tries to explain it to them.
No no, rational people know better than to purchase a Cyberfuck.
We do know how to read safety notices and recalls and such.
There’s no reason that thing should have been turning the wheels left and right that fucking fast, unless it just wanted to bury itself deeper in the sand…
Goal is reverse, in a simple and straight direction, being pulled by another vehicle. There’s no reason the wheels should have been turning back and forth so fast, and also humans cannot steer the wheel that quickly.
So, the Cyberfuck AI must have been in control of the wheel, in crackhead squirrel brain mode, trying to become a crab and dig itself deeper into the sand.
The Cybertruck doesn’t have a steering column. They’re steer-by-wire. That may explain why the wheels were able to move so quickly. The steering ratio changes dynamically depending on vehicle speed.
You pilot the Cybertruck with a yoke that sweeps through its full range of motion in just 340 degrees—less than one complete turn. That’s possible because the relationship between the driver’s input and the resulting angle at the front wheels is written in code, with all the infinite possibilities that implies. Tesla uses that flexibility to give the Cybertruck the quickest steering of any production vehicle at parking lot speeds and more relaxed responses at highway speeds for smooth, steady control.
The driver is just wiggling the steering wheel to try to free the front tires.
If you’re stuck in sand, the absolute last thing you do is start ‘wiggling’ the steering wheel. Might as well be a crab trying to bury yourself deeper in the sand…
IDK whether it was Autopilot or Human™ controlled, or if the vehicle was just damaged and malfunctioning, any which way this event was just straight fucking stupid.
Props to Toyota though 👍
You’re bizarrely upset by someone saying something you disagree with.
And they have rear wheel steering, which is why the rear wheels turn like that.
Why the front wheels floppy? 🤔
That shit is already broke yo, duh.
