• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    I’m going to change that “or” to an “and” in the interests of non-divisiveness. I’ve enjoyed both, and others not on the list as well.

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      I haven’t watched newer works in the Star Wars franchise but in my opinion Star Wars doesn’t qualify as science fiction but is more like a space fantasy story.

      Science fiction is more like a thought experiment: What would happen if society or technology would develop in this or that way? That’s what Star Trek is doing for the most part (at least the older installments).

      Edit: To be clear: I am not saying, Star Wars is bad. It is obviously highly regarded for a good reason. Im just saying it’s not science fiction.

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        17 hours ago

        Right, intelligent aliens communicating, governing, trading, and fighting alongside humans in interstellar wars with faster-than-light travel, space lasers, artificial intelligence, autonomous robots, planet-destroying superweapons, cybernetics, cloning, advanced prosthetics, and energy weapons does not qualify as science fiction because it also has mysticism, prophecy, telekinesis, and sword fights…

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          Nah that’s not my point at all. I’m not saying all that space, alien and tech stuff doesn’t qualify as sci-fi because of the mysticism/prophecy/magic. My point is that you could probably tell Star Wars’ tale just as well without all those aspects in a traditional fantasy setting for example. Sci-fi, in my opinion, utilizes science or technology to start thought experiments and tell stories that wouldn’t be possible.

          Take for example “Do Androids dream of electric sheep?” (the book Bladerunner is based on): The story tackles the ethical question at which point an artificial lifeform can be considered a person and should be treated as such. This is classic sci-fi: Take a fictional advanced technology and discuss the ethical or societal problems that may result from this technology.

          This is something at least classic Star Trek does quite often while most of Star Wars’ technology could very well be replaced by fantasy elements without the underlying story being fundamentally different.

  • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksM
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    2 days ago

    Both.

    Grew up with Star Wars as I have an older brother who had IV-VI on VHS.

    Later in life I found myself in a job that took me offshore without internet access, so I needed something to watch on my laptop. As I considered myself a geek, and having never watched Star Trek, I torrented all of star trek and brought it with me. I started with The Cage, went over to Original series, and so forth. Last I saw was Enterprise.