Donald Trump’s administration is threatening to withdraw federal funding for unemployment assistance in all 50 states as part of the president’s nationwide campaign against “fraud” in government spending.

In a letter to the governors of 53 states and territories, acting Labor Secretary Keith Sonderling warned that the federal government would use “every available tool” to combat “waste, fraud and abuse” within state-run unemployment insurance programs, including “withholding administrative funds from states” for the first time in history.

There is no single national program for unemployment support, though the federal government partners with state agencies to support temporary financial assistance to out-of-work Americans. Nearly 2 million people are currently receiving those benefits, while roughly 229,000 people are filing initial jobless claims every week, according to the Labor Department.

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    Vote for him, places you in financial stress, he pisses the money away, takes more of your money for undefined reasons.

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    president’s nationwide campaign against “fraud” in government spending.

    Projection much, huh?

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      It’s rationale: how would anyone need unemployment benefit with the best economy the USA, the world, sorry: the Universe have seen since the US exist the creation of Earth by God??

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      Also privilege, Republicans see themselves as privileged, it’s not fraud when they do it, they are allowed, it’s fraud when others without sufficient privilege do it.

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      Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up already.

      You really think suddenly taking millions of people off unemployment is just a distraction from something else?

      This is life-ruining shit on a national scale.

      Not everything is a “distraction” from the thing EVERYONE ALREADY FUCKING KNOWS ABOUT

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      But by now, everyone either knows or refuses to acknowledge that the President is a notorious pedophile.

      A sudden spike in unemployment followed by waves of debt default, foreclosure, and police actions on the unemployed would seem to be the more pressing issue.

      This just feels like the Iran “Today’s bombing a girl’s school distracts from who the President was fucking in 1997” Epstein War bullshit.

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        A sudden spike in unemployment followed by waves of debt default, foreclosure, and police actions on the unemployed would seem to be the more pressing issue.

        He certainly doesn’t think so from all the redactions to the disclosures to Congress and the sweetheart deal he gave Maxwell (the co-conspirator who is still in prison today for the crimes he committed and advances).

        Today’s bombing a girl’s school distracts from who the President was fucking in 1997.

        He had Epstein killed just 10 years ago, and there is no statute of limitations on murder.

        Also, its not just him. He’s surrounded by the Epstein class who all went in on raping children together.

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          He had Epstein killed just 10 years ago

          The line of people who potentially greenlit Epstein’s murder goes down the road and around the block.

          Not that it matters, because pedophilia is apparently legal - even encouraged - at this point in US history.

          Also, its not just him.

          That’s been the joke of all these “Release the Epstein Files” folks tossing aside the orgy of evidence on the grounds that “it’s not enough”. We have a rogue’s gallery of Epstein associates who remain untouchable. And the “Release” folks keep pretending there’s some extra bit of evidence that’s been held back that will finally bring the cops in to arrest everyone.

          It’s a fantasy. Just like the Mueller Report shit libs were hung up on in 2019. Nobody is coming to arrest the President or any of his close confidants. No organized agency is coming for the billionaire class. There is no secret kabal waiting for that next shoe to drop. There is no X-Files esque revelation that’s going to bring about societal change that we haven’t already all passed around on social media.

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            I’d wager Trump could publicly do it again, livestream it, and gain more fans because he’s “relatable” to those fans

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    What he wants:

    • desperate people who work for scraps
    • riots, so he can call in the military and call off the election

    What he (hopefully) gets:

    • a revolution

    Seriously, why aren’t billionaire villas burning? Why is Mar-a-Lagos still standing? I’m surprised how much the American people are willing to endure.

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      Armed revolution results in U.S. military drone strikes on blue states. I am not joking. This is Pete Hegseth’s handpicked military; they’re waiting for a revolution to crush.

      I’m not necessarily saying a revolution should or shouldn’t happen, but you should absolutely be aware of the circumstances on topics like these. Plus, people have tried to attack the president. So many times that it’s seemed for a while that these are selected shooters. They’ve all failed thus far.

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        I mean, Trump’s war of choice in Iran was an unmitigated disaster. I can’t imagine how poorly they would respond to domestic guerrilla warfare

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          You can consider it a disaster because iranian drones drilled them a new one. But keep in mind these guys are sociopath with no value for human life besides their own. They would totally send soldiers kill as many as possible while suffering high losses without a second thought.

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            If it’s like Iran, it looks like he’d try to fight this weaker force, lose anyways, and then push the cost on all Americans, which would just grow the insurgency. His incompetence extends to military strategy.

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              Except Iran actually has a military to fight back, not to mention support from China regarding drone supply. I think you’re vastly overestimating the average American’s capability for war. Especially when compared to the U.S. military.

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                The US military hasn’t won against an insurgent force since Vietnam. Big shiny weapons don’t subjagate a populace, the USA doesn’t have the numbers they need to control a population as large as ours, nor do they have enough to cover the amount of land they would need to control.

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      I’m surprised how much the American people are willing to endure.

      At this point I’m convinced we’re the weakest generation of Americans in American history. And the fact that our history really isn’t very long doesn’t help make that feel any better.

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          If they start shooting protesters things will escalate. That’s how civil wars start.

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        Have you seen the French protest? I don’t say one man should go to there and burn it down, but I would expect big, violent protests there.

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          The French only have to protest in France. Imagine the French protesting in Moscow. That’s the distance from Utah to Florida. Utah isn’t even the furthest point from Florida. Tell some Frenchmen to go march on Russia and protest until they get their way. Now picture that playing out.

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            Sure, America is too big for protests 🙄 That’s why I didn’t just mention M-a-L, but billionaire villas too. Protests at the closes place that makes sense. The white house, your local rich people quarter, Mar-a-Lagos, an ICE facility, the villa of the local Trump supporter,…

            If you get enough people together it’s hard to ignore. Make the rich fear the people again.

            March when never possible, with as many people as possible. And if that fails? General strike.

            Sure there were a few “no king” demos, but they ended too soon and protested the wrong places. The ultra rich and Trump himself should feel the heat.

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    Have to imagine this will disproportionately hurt red states and then they’ll blame it on Obama or Biden or something. Really hoping some state will withhold federal taxes but I know our leaders are too spineless for that :[

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    An actual traitor president and it looks like we’re just gonna ride it out with our fingers crossed.

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    “The American people will no longer tolerate the blatant waste, fraud and abuse of their hard-earned tax dollars — no state should allow it either,”

    Excuse me? If anything, the 2024 election made it crystal clear that the American people will, in fact, tolerate the blatant waste, fraud, and abuse of our hard-earned tax dollars. 77 million people actually voted for it.

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        But they super promised they never even heard of it or was going to use it. Then installed its writers in key positions. Purely by happenstance.

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          One of the things I hated so much about the 2024 election was all the fucking gaslighting about it, too. There were plenty saying “isn’t that just a liberal conspiracy theory” and bullshit about “blue maga” (lol, whatever) and lots of the corporate media doing that sort of collective shrug about a documented plan.

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            yuuup. so fucking gross - hey we’re getting the fascist back in the white house, let’s make a list of horrors he can execute!

            and the idiots ignored it. the media shrugged. Everyone I know was screaming about it but that tells you a lot about my peers - otherwise, the country just kinda shrugged and said “Yeah but harris slept her way to the top so-”

            like, dude, if KH had such a magic vagina that the concept was even conceivable, even then, fuck you, she’s way more competent and they are WAY FEWER FASCIST PLAYBOOKS WAITING FOR HER you goddamned dolts

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              Amen to all that. Also, I forgot about all the “Heels Up Harris” nonsense…a certain type of individual will do almost anything not to vote for a woman, though.

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                yup. or POC. it’s amazing the gymnastics they’ll go through to justify voting for their grifting cult leader

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          oops did a bunch of fascism. whoopsie.

          the question is in november, how much pain can they put on all the fucks that made this happen? I want to see dems showing up with receipts, blowtorches and pliers

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            My biggest fear is that even if we somehow manage to defeat all the cheating Dems STILL won’t take it far enough when it comes to punishing these assholes. They need to be treated like Confederates but actually held to account.

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      Yeah and what about that $300B in taxpayer dollars we’re giving to Iran? Seems like the definition of waste, fraud, and abuse.

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        And you know what happens? This makes the next group of people, i.e. middle class, the next poors! Guess what they want to do to the new poors?

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      They don’t want to kill the poor, but they don’t care if they die. What they want are tons of poor, desperate voters and workers.

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        The Republicans have never cared if the poor die. That’s a basic part of their ideology.

        This is different though. Starting with DOGE and continuing unabated since, Trump and his Republican lackeys (and his fascist handlers) have clearly deliberately gone out of their way to arrange things not so that poor people might die but so that they will die.

        What they want are tons of poor, desperate voters and workers.

        Which is exactly what will be left over after they kill off as many “undesirables” as possible.

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        What they want is riots so they can declare martial law and hold power indefinitely, Because people are still upset about martial law being declared so “antifa” must be out there still

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      Who do they think the rich will live off of then?

      Or maybe they haven’t thought that far ahead.

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        Oh, they’re not planning on killing all of the poor people. Just the unemployed ones.

        And with employment protections gone, their conception of undesirables - non-cis and/or non-white - will be over-represented among the unemployed.

        And not even all of them will die, but the survivors will have no safety net so will end up homeless, and with homelessness criminalized, they’ll be sentenced to private prisons/workhouses and be corporate slave labor.

        Basically, they want to cull the herd - just eliminate the people who won’t serve an immediate purpose in their planned technofeudalism.

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      Trump and the Republicans want to kill poor people.

      Don’t forget, he’s also very stupid, and I honestly believe the narcisist thinks things are going really great right now, he just can’t find a way to get the numbers to agree with him. Sadly, on a purely metric issue this might be a winning play. Unemployment numbers are counted based on how many people are collecting unemployment. Kick people off unemployment = they don’t count as unemployed. In his narcisism he might actually believe that “fake unemployed people are making the job numbers worse”. Secondly jobs numbers themselves. Take away unemployment, people will work shittier jobs that might delay homelessness, or possibly get food when they are homeless.

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        Unemployment numbers are counted based on how many people are collecting unemployment.

        Unemployment insurance claims aren’t used to measure the unemployment rate in the US. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump thinks they are… Nor would I be surprised if he tries (or is trying) to change the measure so that it is based on unemployment claims.

        To be clear I’m not saying the US’s unemployment numbers are good—they are distorted to make the unemployment number look smaller than it is. One issue is that People must be actively looking for work to be considered “unemployed”, otherwise they aren’t part of the “labor force” and don’t count at all. It doesn’t matter if they are capable of work, want to work, and spent a year straight looking for work; if they aren’t actively looking now, they don’t count. Additionally, if a person is doing any work at all—even a few hours a week at minimum wage, or doing a bit of unpaid work for a family business—they are considered an employed member of the labor force. It doesn’t matter if they are broke, homeless, and desperately looking for a job; they count as an employed member of the labor force.

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          Interesting, but yeah I guess that still counts in the sense that still it’s pushing say, software engineers that lost their jobs to AI, to absolutely have to take a minimum wage job to, possibly afford enough food to survive while getting evicted/foreclosed etc…

          No matter how you slice it, it still does put more people… into a rush to get SOME form of employment. even at the cost of their time that they could be using to get… actually livable employment.

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              There’s a republican solution for that as well… “lower/eliminate minimum wage so corporations can hire people to do things that are less useful”. Think of it, we can pay people $2 an hour to have them stand in a park and tell people they should eat at mcdonalds, normally the conversion rate is too low, but at $2 an hour, if they can get one person to go every 2 hours, it’s still profitable.

              (and yes obviously this is horribly terrifyingly stupid… and honestly not that far from what many horrible politicians have pushed for).

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        Kick people off unemployment = they don’t count as unemployed.

        Hmm…

        Yes - this is true. And it’s essentially 100% guaranted that unemployment, measured honestly, is going nowhere but up.

        And with the midterms coming up…

        Yes - this seems more likely to be the primary motivation.

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          It’s the financial version of “if we stop counting COVID deaths, the numbers will go down”

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        In his narcissism he might actually believe that “fake unemployed people are making the job numbers worse”.

        This would be on par for the guy who wanted to “Stop the Count” and figured you don’t have a pandemic if you don’t test.

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      They also think that they will save money by letting people get poorer. Moving everyone a step down won’t have that effect.