• FreeBeard@slrpnk.net
    181·
    2 天前

    Nobody mentioned yet how fucking loud this will be. Strong vibrations coupled to a resonating body like ** YOUR HOUSE** sounds like a bad experience.

  • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1872·
    2 天前

    except it’s a Samsung so it’s about 6 months away from needing a $400 motherboard or other insanely stupid electronic component that is worth more than the machine itself.

    • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      20 小时前

      the worst part is that said electronic component will have been the cheapest one to physically manufacture, but because it’s the hardest to copy they can charge whatever the fuck they like

    • lobut@lemmy.ca
      107·
      2 天前

      When I got this house, all my appliances were Samsung. It’s been five years. None of my appliances are Samsung.

    • OS2Warp@lemmy.zip
      16·
      2 天前

      My rule is if you’ve ever made a TV or cell phone I’ll NEVER buy your appliance.

    • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      321·
      2 天前

      Well it easy to just repair your own washing machine yours-… Oh it’s Samsung, never mind. Overly complex electronics and digital control made to not be fixable and break just after warrenty. But on the upside, it has ads and doesn’t work without an app on your phone!

      Remember the time when a washing machine actually was made to wash clothes, for over 20 years? Or a fridge, which was designed to keep your products cool, for over 20 years? Without a monthly subscription, no ads, no updates, no popups, no ai which doesn’t work, no phone connectivity required, etc. And all for a reasonable price, as it wasn’t an overly complex computer. 120 euros for a washing machine which lasts for over 20 years, or a 650 euros for one that lasts 2 years and 2 months.

      We’re not buying appliences that make our life easy anymore. We’re just buying trinkets designed to make companies and billionaires as rich as possible.

      • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caEnglish
        83·
        2 天前

        All appliances used to be really expensive, now only good ones are. Stop buying crap and they will last 20 years.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
          5·
          19 小时前

          The problem is that there are very few well built appliances anymore, even among the expensive options. Some catagories just have no option that’s competently designed and manufactured at all, from any brand.

          You are correct that adjusted for inflation/portion of yearly average income, appliances used to be proportionally much more expensive, though. Manufacturers could afford to build them to last back then.

        • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          5·
          2 天前

          Bad ones are also expensive. For what I’ve seen, the cheap ones are the non-smart basic function devices. They usually last longer and if they break they can be easily fixed with a screwdriver and a YouTube tutorial. You don’t need a Rolls Royce, a Toyota Landcruiser works just fine.

          • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            2 天前

            No Miele appliance I have owned has ever broken. But agreed, adding screens and TVs is just dumb and increases the price with no benefit.

            • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              51·
              2 天前

              The Miele oven I had broke 2 months after 2 year warrenty. The mechanic who looked at it said it was dead, I needed to buy a new one. I found the issue myself, the spit roast function (which I never used) was broken. I unplugged it and the over worked again. The Miele mechanic costed €185. The news I needed to buy a new one costed me that much, even though it was a simple fix.

              Miele used to produce great devices which would last for 40 years. But also they found out you sell less when it never breaks. Now they rely on their good name while the quality becomes less.

              • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caEnglish
                1·
                2 天前

                Strange. Made the mistake of getting the 10 year warranty on all of the appliances and never used it.

                • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  3·
                  2 天前

                  I used to insure every new phone I got. First one I didn’t, because I never broke my phone before, fell out of my hand and broke the screen after just 2 weeks. Sad face.

    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
      15·
      2 天前

      That’s why you prepare a hallway with like 20 of these alcoves. When one machine breaks, you simply pump it full of cement and plaster it over. It just becomes part of the wall. It remains there, entombed forever, like some latter-day washing machine Pompeii. Or maybe you don’t plaster over them at all. Maybe you proudly display them. “These are the washing machines of my ancestors…”

    • unitedwithme@lemmy.today
      15·
      2 天前

      For us it was the $180 concrete counterbalance weight that broke, dented the front panel, and broke the drain tube clean out up front. Hunk of junk.

    • FauxPseudo @lemmy.world
      10·
      2 天前

      My wife was a huge Samsung fan. When it came time to get a washer I found a ding and dent option at a habitat for humanity ReStore. It likes to get unbalanced but it’s still kicking after 8 years. I didn’t expect it to last this long. But I know for a fact the next time we get one my wife will not care if it’s Samsung or not.

      • rainwall@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        2 天前

        I had a similar unbalanced issue with a Samsung dryer years ago. Weird as hell rubbing noise but as far as I could tell no actual mechanical issue with the drum. Realized that lifting the front end made it stop immediately. Tried adjusting the feet but that didn’t resolve it consistently.

        I shoved a 2in high piece of wood under the front lip and the machine has never made the noise again. Still going strong.

    • titanicx@lemmy.zip
      31·
      2 天前

      My Samsung washer and dryer have been running for the last 6 years with 0 issues

  • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
    9·
    2 天前

    Could go either way I reckon, acoustically coupling the walls of your house to a big spinning drum

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 天前

        The hippie probably doesn’t use fabric softener. That shit isn’t worth it in my opinion, and just makes things softer at the expense of lifetime and performance. Things like towels lose absorbency when you use it, workout clothes don’t wick sweat off your skin as easy, it can demonish the flame retardant property of kid clothes, and it can make it easier for mold/mildew to grow in your machine.

        If you’re using it for static/smells, just use dryer balls and some essential oil. I think they’re also pretty good at softening your clothes.

  • rem26_art@fedia.io
    34·
    2 天前

    “No need to service it. All parts last the lifetime of the machine” (the lifetime is 6 months)

  • sorter_plainview@lemmy.today
    6·
    2 天前

    What are the issues by doing something similar? Let us say instead of concreate I have a custom bracket that will arrest any movement. What are the issues it can cause?

    • Allero@lemmy.today
      21·
      2 天前

      You’ll likely kill the motor or drum elements. In essence, your washing machine is an unbalanced centrifuge that tries to release the energy differential by moving the entire thing.

      If you restrict its movement, the whole load and the respective mechanical stress will fall on parts moving and holding the drum. They are not meant to hold that kind of load and will break quickly.

    • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
      10·
      2 天前

      The forces that would normally just affect the washing machine and the floor it’s on will now affect the bracketed surface. Depending on the type of construction the violent vibrations will start to decay that section of the building. Brick will eventually crack and crumble, wood may not break but it’ll be louder. The problem is mainly that with this setup there’s no extra dampener, so the best solution is to buy a washing machine with better dampening system. FWIW my machine suspends its drum with two shock absorbers on the bottom and two suspension springs at the top, and has a central motor instead of an offset one with a belt. It also has concrete counterweights and a digital load-balancing system. If you’re having problems with your machine you should find one with similar features

      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
        8·
        2 天前

        I propose the most practical option possible:

        Simply isolate the washing machine completely from the building. Levitate it entirely off the ground, suspended in the air via a massive toroidal superconducting electromagnet, 3 meters in diameter, cooled by liquid helium. (Which will need to be regularly topped off. It tends to slowly leak through solid walls.)

        The noise would be greatly reduced. As the machine thrashes about, it will do little but disturb the air around it. Little noise will be generated, except from the sound of the machine’s own parts acting against each other.

        Though, if you really wanted to optimize this for this setup, a different design is in order? Perhaps a non-standard design would better handle internal vibrational damping? Have you considered calling local stores and asking if they have any spherical washing machines in stock?

        • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          2 天前

          Oh wow, I’ve always wanted a pet black hole. Send instructions to my PO box? (House still blown up, waiting on insurance).

            • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
              3·
              2 天前

              Damn forgot about the damn postal service sniffing through my mail.

              Alright it’s okay, gimmie your address, I’ll come over and stay a few days (the streets get lonely), then we can get to the brass tacks with these instructions (!), then I’ll probably stay a few more days (one month max, I promise).

              • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
                3·
                2 天前

                Talked it over with the missus, and I’m afraid she wouldn’t go for it. Best I can offer you is a pup tent in the yard.

                Sorry, but I gotta have my “relations” fix. Maybe if it were No Nut November…

                Edit: Of course you’ll be on your own for facilities, btw.

                • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
                  2·
                  2 天前

                  I’ll take it, never hard a whole yard before. Me and the kids’ll come unpack tonight.

                  No problem on the facilities, I’m sure I can come and go into the kitchen as I please.

                  Oh and before I forget, we like lunchables, so best have that refridgerator stocked!

    • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
      6·
      2 天前

      Vibrations don’t just vanish when they hit solid concrete.

      Your entire wall will vibrate, which will distribute the sound through the house and make the machine seem much louder than it normally is. Potentially, this might eventually result in cracks in the concrete wall: concrete is very strong in compression, but has low tensile strength, low ability to resist pulling forces … and every vibration is a quick succession of compression and tension.

    • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.orgEnglish
      5·
      2 天前

      Maintenance is probably the first thing that comes to mind and custom bracket that allows maintenance is just over engineering a simple solution like a hole or just leaving it standing in the same place where the bracket was supposed to be.

      Washing machines are already designed to minimize all the movement it causes. It just isn’t worth the effort to do anything else to it.

      • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
        5·
        2 天前

        Washing machines are already designed to minimize all the movement it causes. It just isn’t worth the effort to do anything else to it.

        Well, if your machine is still too noisy for your liking, you could…

        • Make sure it isn’t touching any walls or any other objects, especially at the side or back of the machine.

        • Place it on a rubber mat or thick carpet to absorb some of the vibrations.

        • Put noise-absorbing foam panels on the walls and/or ceiling of your laundry room.

        Doing any or all of those may make it significantly quieter, especially when listening to it from outside the room.