Just peak Republican Christian values.

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    You know I don’t usually advocate for extreme measures. There are already enough people carrying pitchforks and torches in these comment sections. But just this once, I’ll make an exception.

    Lock them up and throw away the key. They’re a complete waste of humanity.

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    The real crime is that scum like that can become internationally known celebrities with outsized influence over young people.

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      Unless we get the delightful Ian Watkins news about them. That’ll be a good day.

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        I get it, they are bad men, but mate, wishing prison violence is still wishing violence and that’s part of the reason assholes exist in society.

        Like when people hope that rapists get raped in prison. That’s still supporting rape culture. It’s not something that can be justified.

        We are better than that, which is why we can judge them and put them away.

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    I once went on a date with a Russian girl. Later I found her Pinterest profile that featured, among other things, pictures of Russian soldiers trampling on Pride flags, Elon Musk and Andrew Tate. Later I stumbled onto her Tinder profile where the description read “PS. I’m a fan of Andrew Tate”.

    So I didn’t only dodge a bullet, but a whole clip.

    These news make me want to ask her “well, what do you think of Andrew Tate now?”

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        Yeah, women like that have so much internalized misogyny. No way she’d believe the allegations are true even if he’s convicted

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      I dated a Russian girl for a couple of months and she had some really backwards morals, saying I shouldn’t work out since I’m a man so I can be out shape while she needs to always look sexy. I always thought she was jking at first but she made me understand she was being 100% literal

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    Have they been extradited yet? I feel like the longer they’re in the US the more likely Trump is going to step in to pardon them — it’s federal and therefore possible right?

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        well, not with that attitude, certainly. but have you considered that no one in charge gives a shit about the law?

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          He could wave a pen, say they’re pardoned and refuse to extradite. But they still could never travel to the UK or any other nation that extradites to the UK.

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            They fled to the US for amnesty because they don’t intend to do so, but it would sour the American relationship with the UK even further

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              Wouldn’t be the first time Trump refused to extradite to the UK. There was that diplomat’s wife who killed a kid by driving on the wrong side of the road in the UK. She fled and Trump refused extradition

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      Doesn’t really seem “on brand” for Trump.

      He might have a lot in common with these scum bags but that’s not enough for him to act - there’s nothing in it for him.

      They’re also headed to jail, which is the wrong direction for Trump. He will hitch his wagon to anyone who is popular and successful like Mandani, regardless of ideology. He avoids anyone who has fallen from grace, like these two.

      The only reason he pardoned the Jan 6 insurrectionists is because he may need to rely on similar support in future.

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      The idea being you can pardon someone of another jurisdiction’s crimes…? I need to smoke another bowl apparently

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      Have they been extradited yet? I feel like the longer they’re in the US the more likely Trump is going to step in to pardon them

      This doesn’t make sense.

      You extradite someone if they have charges in another jurisdiction. Presidential pardons would only apply to (federal) US charges.

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    Compare extradition of the Tate idiots to some other shit extradition from Spain of a, not kidding, Cox Communication empire heir who funds humanitarian efforts

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        In July 2026, Chambers was arrested in Ibiza, Spain, and ordered held without bail pursuant to a sealed extradition request from the United States Department of Justice relating to his financial support for Palestinian causes; his family, his legal team, and left-wing politicians in Spain and Ireland described the action as politically motivated.[6][7][8] As of mid-July 2026, Chambers remained in custody in Spain pending the outcome of extradition proceedings.[8]

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            I love that the only relative he’s still in contact with is his grandma, Margaret fucking Hamilton. Also wtf he was Marjorie Taylor Greene’s boss!

            He does sound incredibly unpleasant to be around and like my working class ass would have plenty of conflict with him

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    Why are you talking about Republican Christian values if Andrew Tate converted to Islam? At least, that’s what I understood.

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      You do realize that these pedo assholes are very popular among Republicans and that Trump intervened with the Romanian government to let them travel back to the US despite then being under investigation there for the same shit and they’ve been working with Baron for Republican outreach?

      That’s why.

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          He’s buddy buddy with republicans who pretend to have values. He just explained it

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            If I’m a buddy with a Muslim, while I’m Christian, what does the fact he is Muslim have to do with me?

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                Firstly, I didn’t say I was, secondly, I don’t agree with you, thirdly, I don’t care what you think.

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                  As a person sharing a planet with you, I care a lot what you think. Please help ensure that our beliefs align as closely with reality as possible.

                  Death cults are intolerable.

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                  Literal death cults. As a living person, I find them intolerable and so should you. Don’t be shortsighted, all life depends on the truth that defines us.

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        He was praying to Allah when he was imprisoned in Romania is what I recollect.

        Edit: yup, he converted to Islam in 2022 and there has been no sign of him converting back to Christianity or atheism.

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      You hope for a less humane system? Weird. I don’t think that stops people like the Tates, in all likelihood it helps create the kind of society they’ve thrived in: One that’s callously hyper masculine and irresponsible.

      With ideas like that around, he can one day emerge bragging about how he’s a chad for beating up rape gangs and surviving a prison combat ring.

      I think doing what was done to Anders Brievek would be better: The world shocked by how humane he’s kept, and news of him begging for a PS4 comes out. It showed him off as immature, needy, and overly reactionary.

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        I don’t think that stops people like the Tates, in all likelihood it helps create the kind of society they’ve thrived in: One that’s callously hyper masculine and irresponsible.

        I wish more people understood just how precisely and even exactly true this is in practice. This kind of crime is always present to some degree or another, but it doesn’t flourish when society itself has safety nets, help for people in crisis, and communities that in general care about the well-being of their members.

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        We’ve really been trained to believe rape is a state sanctioned punishment imposed as part of incarceration.

        It’s inconceivable that we might operate a prison system that isn’t some kind of Kafka-esque nightmare intent on breaking people of their humanity.

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          All I can do is copy my comment from above. Judge a society on how it treats its prisoners. I hope the Tate brothers are imprisoned for decades in accordance with the law

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            People like the Tate brothers have had an incredibly huge and terrible influence on society on a global scale. They’ve started a whole culture of misogyny on a scale which we’ve never seen before. They’ve also trafficked human beings who were exploited for sex.

            They used their platform to cause unimaginable harm on the minds of young boys and men. Little girls, women and queer people have suffered from men who listened to them. This will have a lasting effect that’ll probably take decades or a whole generation to decrease and eliminate.

            So don’t give me this holier than thou BS. People like him and Charlie Kirk deserve to suffer the violence they preached, enabled, and inflicted.

            Was it anybody else for any other kind of crime, I might agree with you depending on the case. But not in this one.

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              There’s nothing “holier than thou” about this my man. There isn’t a crime possible where you’re going to be able to justify rape as an appropriate punishment. They can spend the rest of their lives in prison

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        Rape is a confusing event involving disregard and disrespect for someone’s autonomy, words, sensations, and body. It’s disempowering, hurtful, and confusing, that’s part of why it’s traumatic. Parts of it exist in a gray area, whilst other parts are horribly negative.

        People can and have been raped by people they were attracted to. In relationships with, or even people they married. That doesn’t make it harmless, or okay.

        Saying “they’re probably gay so they might like it” is more the rapists viewpoint than someone understanding the victims. It’s like saying “they flirted with me so they obviously wanted it”. Or “she’s a slut she probably enjoyed it”.

        … ultimately we have to understand these arguments and see them, so we don’t perpetuate that kind of thinking.

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          Remember that you’re defending the Tate brothers here. Do you even realize the impact these two assholes had on the world with their hate platform? The misogynistic and homophobic movement and trends they created? The number of young boys and men they influenced?

          As I mentioned to someone else, people like them or Charlie Kirk deserve to suffer the same violence they preached and enabled.

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            I’m not defending anyone specifically, I’m defending EVERYONE against rape culture and the cycle of encouraging violence.

            The idea that someone deserves violence IS the problem. People deserve clarity, a sense of self-awareness, a lifting up of intelligent responsibility to themselves and others.

            “Corrective rape” or “corrective violence” won’t bring anyone closer to a sense of empathy, or intelligent responsibility to the community and others.

            At some point we have to get past these views that violence is useful, or a way to fixing things. Ultimately a better society has to be constructed, that takes effort and thoughtfulness over time… You can’t violence your way to a better world. Ultimately you have to exercise, educate, communicate, and hence form the characters that you want to have in the world. That takes effortful care, not destruction and harm.

            I don’t think the prison system will change the Tate’,s perspective, I don’t think a beating will either. I think being raised in a better society probably has the best chance.

            To my mind, it’s not a society where certain people “deserve” violence for the violence they decided ithers deserve. You’re just going to end up with a lot of violence and resentment if that’s your model of life.

            You need to have restorative, communicative, and peaceful forms of justice, rather than a punishment and retribution model of justice. Ultimately someone has to build the better world.

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        Seeing these two fuckers get the same treatment they gave their victims would be justified here IMO. Fuck these guys and thier bullshIt Trump passport they rode in on.

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          They should be held accountable to the fullest, but calling for rape is disgusting.

          No one deserves to be raped.

          Their victims didn’t deserve it and giving it back to them isn’t justice.

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          It’s a reasonable feeling, but an unreasonable request.

          We don’t get to kick the shit out of assaulters or swipe the legit property of thieves, either.

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          I don’t think you understand the socially programatic subjegation of women then - the “same treatment as their victims” would be them raised in a society their bodies are covetted, hit on by adults as soon as they start puberty. Told to diet and not put on too much muscle or fat. A count down clock and only fans account offered when they turn 18, a series of disrespectful and inappropriately sexual or abusive men in their lives - and a society that does this to all boys and men to the point the rape statistics are inverted.

          Really you want that to happen to all men? For them to become victims and statistics in a sexually abusive system of gendered subjegation?

          Feeling like you’re more masculine or elevated for wishing violence (and sexual violence) on others is MORE LIKE the Tate brothers, not less. Its on their side, not on their victims side.

          Perhaps: “I wish for a society where men were connected to their emotions, empathy, and effects on others and the world” would be a statement against the Tate brothers.