Tl;dr: 75-yo old woman attacks the employees over a sandwich, rips hair from one of them, put that hair in her purse, calls the police and dies.
At that point, two other employees intervened, and as they were pulled apart, a “chunk of hair” was pulled from the shift lead’s head, “leaving a raw area.”
Once separated, the employees got behind the counter and Grayson sat down, taking a phone call. She was seen picking up the shift lead’s hair and putting it in her bag, police said.
“This is a heartbreaking situation for everyone involved and especially for Ms. Grayson’s family,” the Allen County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office said in an update on the case Friday.
And not especially heart breaking for the employee who got their hair ripped put by a psycho and then had to watch that psycho doe and then live for months under the threat of having to go to jail for being attacked?
I’d say the cunt is fine, the family likely is relieved she’s gone, I feel for the basic income employee
I’ll beat her stupid ass, you should consider this a legitimate threat, I’m more than close enough, use some of those resources you don’t want to.
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Medical records obtained by investigators after her death showed she had recently been treated for congestive heart failure, hypertension, shortness of breath, and other complaints related to cardiovascular issues.
But not “being a cunt”, so I guess that was her decision, not a medical condition.
Seriously, who curses at minimum-wage teenage workers doing their jobs and physically attacks them!? The world is a slightly better place now…
miserable people who are dying of health issues and whose daily life nothing but despair and pain.
that’s who.
my dad was the same way as this lady. spend the last 5 years of his life slowly dying and taking it out on other people.
Man that’s awful, I feel for you. My dad spent the last five years of his life fighting for every gulp of air in miserable pain and took it out on absolutely no one. Well, unless he happened to see someone park in a handicapped spot without a sticker. Then there was hell to pay.
wow cool. your dad was better than my dad.
too bad I didn’t get a choice of what kind of dad to have. Nobody does.
Kinda seems like you’re following in your dad’s footsteps
To each their own, though
Oh, did my comment make you feel personally assaulted and attacked?
No, I just saw someone who said their dad was a miserable asshole reply to someone with a very “I’m a miserable asshole” energy.
So, be happy that your dad would be proud of you. You’re a chip off the old block.
I dont know, out of everyone involved, you seem the most like a miserable old cunt taking shit out on other people with your nasty, undeserved, unwarranted comment.
Projections a hell of a drug, I guess.
You’ll get that elusive reading comprehension some day, maybe.
Gotta keep trying though. Don’t give up.
I wish you would give up this trite and boring exercise.
Is “taking it out on other people” the same as physically attacking them? Because she could have killed these young people if they hadn’t defended themselves and banded together. She might have snuffed out their entire lives because she felt shitty!
I genuinely feel bad for your dad and for this lady. It’s terrible and it’s unfair. But, like anyone dealing with something chronic, it’s also their responsibility to manage. If they can’t, they have no business being in society with other people…
just because it’s their responsibility to manage it doesn’t mean they can manager it. or their loved ones can.
do you think we should lock everyone up who is dealing with physical and mental problems that may overwhelm them? throw my dad in jail because what, he’s in so much pain and depression that he can’t think straight?
what about my mom who had dementia? oh right, well yeah we did put her in ‘jail’ in a full time care facility, but it also cost us $12,000/mo.
do you think we should lock everyone up who is dealing with physical and mental problems that may overwhelm them? throw my dad in jail because what, he’s in so much pain and depression that he can’t think straight?
If they’re going around attacking people yeah. People like that need to be handled, not allowed to go around inflicting themselves on everyone else. It sucks but minimum wage workers aren’t trained or compensated to be carers for the mentally unwell.
“carers for the mentally unwell” get minimum wage too.
Seriously, who curses at minimum-wage teenage workers doing their jobs and physically attacks them!? The world is a slightly better place now…
old, kareny cunts who are used to getting placated and getting what they want by tantruming.
I wanna save this meme but it’s so niche 😂 especially since I don’t live in the south anymore.
She may have behaved rudely, but nobody should be getting beaten to death for being rude.
how about you read the actual goddamn article before commenting?
She wasn’t beaten to death for being rude. She attacked a manager for telling her to leave after berating a 17 year old employee. She punched the manger in the face, yanked her to the ground by the hair and continued punching her while on the ground. The manager only got away after the chunk of hair she was being held by was ripped out of her scalp.
She died from a heart attack because she started a fight with a 20 year old girl while having congestive heart failure. The manager even brought her a cup of water to a person who just assaulted her because they were worried about them.
She wasn’t. Read the summary or my comment if you’re not going to read the article.
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“The customer is always right.”
As someone who once worked retail, I hate that fucking statement.
Thats because the full quote is always cut off. The original quote is “The customer is always right in matters of taste”, which is true. Its just been co-opted to justify psychotic customers.
As a person who worked in retail, and managed and owned retail shops, I never allowed that nonsense to rule my stores.
Especially when I own it, that shop is my Kingdom, and I am the Emperor. What I say goes, and the very LAST person that makes decisions in my shop is the customer, and I am not at all afraid to say that directly to a customers face, and I have.
I have opened a shop with the product I have created, and I ALLOW you to enter and partake. If you can’t appreciate the access to my product, and behave accordingly, your access to that product will end, and you will NEVER experience it again.
Do not EVER tell me “the customer is always right” in MY own shop. You enter at MY pleasure, and I don’t care what you want.
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As a guy that works in government procurement, I can guarantee that the customer is, in 95% of all cases, dead wrong.
In matters of taste.
Not in every single way… I hate how the twisting of this phrase has resulted in abuse of an entire sectors workforce.
Sorry you were one of them too :(
we just need to normalize saying the whole thing.
“The customer is always right in matters of taste.”
“The customer is always right in matters of taste.”
“The customer is always right in matters of taste.”The customer is certainly not right if they’re assaulting someone.
And my hair stylist has talked me out of bad decisions more than once, if I had good taste I wouldn’t be paying an expert
Eh. Even then. The hair stylist should offer advice, but if someone really wants a bad cut? Their body. Their choice.
That in matters of taste bit was added recently, started circulating on tiktok. There’s no evidence of it being part of the original saying.
I’ve been hearing that since the early 2000s at least. So if it is wrong the origin isn’t tiktok.
I had to look this up.
In short, point to you for your correctness on the origin.
Yeah, that’s why when I eat out or buy something I strive to be polite.
These people are often contract workers who have little chances of advancement.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede
Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that’s not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn’t a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they’re under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is “over fucking a sandwich- what a bitch!” Anita Grayson may have lived like a saint for all we know. At least, up until her body breaking down causes psychosis - which can happen to literally any one of us.
What a fucking stupid society.
There is literally nothing in the article about psychosis.
You are writing prose based on nothing but your desire to muddy the water and refusal to believe someone old cant be a fucking aggressive asshole just because they are simply an asshole.
And let me tell you, Plenty of young, aggressive assholes grow into old aggressive assholes who are still convinced they can slap people around and get what they want, like they did with their children when they were 4.
Except the part where the lady died. That was a hint. People who are actively dying rarely behave “normally”.
Yes, why wont we have any sympathy for the poor woman. Those dirty employees should have just taken her verbal and physical abuse. HAVE THEY NO RESPECT FOR THEIR BETTERS?!
SHE WOULDNT HAVE DIED IF YOU’D HAVE JUST LET HER BEAT YOU, YOU PEASANT! 😭
It must be so exhausting to put words in people’s mouths then tell them those words are wrong. You should take a break. You earned it.
and yet you are here, still briming with energy.
Her medical history, combined with this behavior, if anything seems to lean towards her just having anger issues for a really long time.
There’s also no evidence this is an event of psychosis. She was fully aware of her surroundings and events, as she knew why she was angry. The only evidence I see of her likely dying was an adrenal response because it is not that easy to rip out hair, especially at that age. And even that’s a stretch - most likely she already had clotting issues and a weak heart, and the anger finished her off.
Well in this particular case, the granddaughter came out and said she was a total bitch all her life, so… maybe it wasn’t psychosis in this case?
Source for that? I can only find some statements from the daughter.
Okay thats hilarious.
I hope the funeral wasn’t honoring her life, but roasting the shit out of her
Yeah I’m sure it’s an elder care issue and not the fact that she was a miserable asshole her entire life.
Nothing is ever anyone’s fault.
Ehh, there’s a not-insignificant chance someone of that age with vascular problems may have dementia, which does a number on people’s personalities.
Literally nothing in the article says anything about psychosis, what are you talking about?
You’re drawing your own inferences from who knows where. Cardiac psychosis can be something that could (rarely) occur in late stage CHF patients. Those folks can barely move around at that point though.
This woman did aggravate her serious medical condition, though, and I’m willing to believe she didn’t have a complete understanding of it.
I say this being in full agreement we need better healthcare in the US. But I’ve also seen people with access to great care who just didn’t give a shit about the recommendations of their doctors. People are complicated.
I’ve also seen people with access to great care who just didn’t give a shit about the recommendations of their doctors
i haven’t been able to get an MD to even open my medical records and look at them, let alone read them, for 15 years. i don’t give a shit what my doctors say either, they haven’t put in the requisite work to be allowed an opinion on my healthcare.
I’m sorry that’s your experience, that’s insane.
Have you considered fighting fire with fire and becoming a doctor and eventually becoming their doctor and then being a bad doctor?
i don’t need a cocaine habit, no
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I hate the death of empathy
Should we not have empathy for the children she assaulted? There is no evidence that she had a psychotic episode, there’s plenty of evidence that she violently assaulted a young woman for doing their job.
I thought there was evidence it was psychosis, sorry
I don’t doubt someone probably made that claim and popularized it for their own reasons, but anytime someone makes a similar claim about mental health and assault I am always dubious.
People having a mental health crisis are overwhelmingly more likely to be the victims of violence than perpetrating it.
And even if it was psychosis, this just makes it a tragedy, not the fault of the employees she assaulted. Whether you’re out of your mind or not, if you attack people, they have a right to defend themselves.
People having a mental health crisis rarely physically attack random people, rather they are typically more likely to be the victims of abuse.
You can calm down the performative social justice stuff. While what you say is true, it is irrelevant to this discussion. We’re not discussing whether someone experiencing a mental health crisis might hypothetically attack someone. We’re talking about whether someone who did attack someone did so because of a mental health crisis. The attack is not in dispute. Their moral and legal culpability is.
You can calm down the performative social justice stuff. While what you say is true, it is irrelevant to this discussion
Lol, facts are performative?
We’re talking about whether someone who did attack someone did so because of a mental health crisis. The attack is not in dispute.
And the fact that people experiencing mental health crises aren’t likely to be randomly violent isn’t relevant?
Their moral and legal culpability is.
Intent almost always influences legal culpability.
Yep, it’s kind of wild people jump to calling her a “Super Karen” when he most likely explanation is that she has a psychotic episode.
I love the fact that literally nothing in any of the evidence hints at a psychotic episode, but people like you gotta hallucinate facts just to justify your imaginary narrative that old people are sweet as candy and innocent as newborns and can do no wrong.
It’s not about the age of the person. If somebody is acting very erratically (for example, starting a physical fight over pickles) I’m inclined to assume that the individual in question likely has some underlying issues.
If you want to assume ‘entitled boomer’ that’s on you; to me that looks no better than when someone assumes ‘drug dealer’ when the dead person has other attributes, based on their particular prejudice.
That really sounds to me like there was some underlying health issue and the customer lost absolute control of herself as she succumbed to it.
That may be the case, but there are countless videos of people committing felonies in restaurants/fast food chains because someone made a mistake on their order. There must be a lot of underlying health issues in the US 😆
or because they imagined a mistake on their order.
Didn’t we literally just have a headline that 90%+ of US adults do not seek healthcare because they can’t afford it?
There’s something called Penrose’s law: the prison population plus mental care population is a constant. So a country that doesn’t take care of mental health needs to handle it as crime. Pretty simple when you think about it, but the dude had stats to back up his assertion.
Living in the US is a health issue lol, especially mental health, especially if you have too few decimal places in your bank account.
Most of those videos don’t feature a healthy young worker literally beating an elderly woman to death.
This is not the place to submit your creative writing exercises.
Neither does this one
Yep, that’s exactly the conclusion prosecutors reached if you read all the way to the bottom.
People who don’t read the article need to just be site-wide banned. They provide nothing of value to any community.
Definitely psychosis
To all of us who have worked a drive thru before, utterly unsurprised. Of course she was willing to give her life up over a sandwich.
‘There is no audio, but the employees told investigators Grayson slammed her food on the counter and made an expletive-laced demand for a refund, accusing staff of making her sandwich “wrong on purpose,” according to the report released last week.’
Well, I have no idea how Anita Grayson lived, but i know how that bitch died. Who treats staff like this? Over a fucking sandwich?
After being treated for congestive heart failure, no less. I’m sure her doctor probably told her to stay away from fast food and stressful situation!
especially a Tim Hortons sandwich. They could make the sandwich completely “right” and perfect and I’d still be upset because I decided eating something, anything, from Tims was a good idea.
aye fuckouttahere them timbits are fire
Clearly unhinged, world is a slightly better place now.
She could have been sick. She WAS 75.
WHO ASSAULTED SOMEONE WHO WAS PROTECTING THEMSELVES
Funny how all you hand wringing creative writers are trying so desperately to leave that part out and invent some fictional narrative that she was a kind, sweet woman who was ravaged by undiagnosed psychosis that no one has any evidence of.
I never said she was a sweet woman. I said mental illness MAY have been the cause of her abusive nature. And you don’t know it isn’t any more than I do, you stupid assclown.
mental illness that you have NO EVIDENCE of.
You are sitting here desperately trying to pull an AI hallucination to invent scenarios that fit the prompt you want.
She could have been, but that doesn’t excuse her actions, unless maybe it was totally uncontrollable (like Tourette syndrome) and she was doing everything she could to get help and fix it. If you’re not trying to change it then that’s just who you are, and if it’s something that could be changed then you’re just an asshole.
I would bet money on it. A lot of traumatic brain injuries or degeneration can just look like someone being an unhinged jerk.
100% correct. Back in the late 70s/early 80s I had an uncle, technically my grandmothers brother. He’d never married and she was widowed so they shared a house together. In retrospect, I think he was probably a closeted gay man.
Anyway, All through my young years he was a very kind and generous man. Smart too. He bought a Commodore home computer when they first came out and let me play games on it. He used it to write up a family history of everything he knew about our family’s past. He also make a cookbook of all my grandmother’s recipes. He printed both of those out and gave a copy to every household in the family. He had a shocking level of technological aptitude for a 60ish year old man in the early 80s.
Then one day he changed. I was young and nobody told me exactly what it was. Maybe a stroke or something. From that day on he was as mean as a snake. He’d rip into anyone over anything. Not violently, I don’t think, anyway. But he’d scream and swear and slam things and be generally viscous. It was as if my uncle just died and was replaced by a scary, mean old-man who looked just like him.
While this woman may have been a bitch all her life, I’ve known plenty of healthy, young people who were no better than this. She might also have been emotionally disturbed and no longer the person that she was. Without more information, we’ll never know.
Yeah, I stopped watching videos of Karen’s because, while I’m sure some are merely overprivileged, a lot of them come across as genuinely mentally ill.
She arrived in the throes of death and went out swinging
She arrived in the throes of death and went out swinging
I’M GONNA TAKE SOMEONE WITH ME!
Well she took someone’s hair with her
“I don’t see how it’ll help, but sure, we can weigh it for funsies.”
- AnubisIn her purse, to be precise
She was sick, hypertension and heart disease.
Lead poisoning
Entitled boomers
Boomers. That’s who. It’s their world…we just live in it.
Not for much longer.
GLORY TO HER HOUSSSSSSE!
Drinking the coffee is punishment enough.
What TF were they considering charging the employee with? Toxic hair?
What is the law regarding elder abuse in the USA?
Any kind of elder abuse should be dealt with swiftly and harshly worldwide. She should be punished for assaulting an elder at the very least.
Sometimes america just don’t make no sense.
Editing: I’m aware of the case, what happened, who put hands on who. What I’m not aware of is where self defense blurs and elderly abuse begins.
You guys okay? So hostile.
Its not abuse to defend yourself from assault.
I like the phrasing in my employee handbook, self defense is not an act of violence.
Try reading sometime.
I swear to god I wish idiots that comment without reading the fucking story would get permabanned.
Because at this point its just bad faith at best, and downright trolling at worst.
Did you read the article? The elder was the one who carried out the assault.
You asking questions we know the answer to?
The elder assaulted her lol
You mean elder abuse as in the elderly person abused someone, right?
I don’t understand your reasoning. My understanding of what happened after reading the article is that the manager used force in self defence after being attacked. How should that result in a punishment for adulting an elder?
What’s the abuse from the employees? Fucking up a sandwich?
She died doing what she loved
Karening to the max
Karenmaxxing
She was seen picking up the shift lead’s hair and putting it in her bag, police said.
Was she a witch or something?
Hiding evidence
My guess is she wanted DNA from the ”assailant”.
Nah, she was just collecting her post battle loot.
She knew a shop keeper that would buy anything from her.
