Full quote though it’s not really any better:
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
I always knew about the gaschambers, but never really thought about how it was done, until I saw this video recently
It made me realize just how fucked up these people where.
Visit a concentration camp someday if you get the opportunity
The first time I got chills from an animated YouTube video. Crazy to think that people who are OK with this still exist and walk among us.
I’m now officially convinced we all died during covid and went to hell
It’s even worse. Christians fight hard to make hell on earth a reality so they can live for ever in peace in make believe land when they are no longer living?! Make it make sense.
Make it make sense.
It’s a death cult. It’s symbol is a half-naked tortured dying man being executed via nailed to a cross, took one look for me as a child to figure that out.
A make believe land that works pretty similarly to socialism, the whole thing they rail so hard against on earth
Obviously you’re working your heaven job and spending your heaven bucks.
That’s what supply side Jesus would want right?
I saw a post like this the other day and it blew my fucking mind. Never thought about it before.
Yup this is the shittiest episode of lost yet.
I mean, this is a guy who considers rape the highest compliment he can pay a woman.
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Have you seen the line of succession? We need a whole lot of people dead before this gets better.
That’s the reason I always suggest Elon rather than Trump. When Elon is shot in the face, he has no system that will fill his Nazi shoes. The world would just be better, period. Like a fuckin’ surgery to the world, remove the tumor.
better start now !
Be the change you’d like to see in the world
for anyone trying to follow the conversation, I suggested murdering nazis in the above post, and apparently this was too controversial for moderators (I mean I suppose so, no reason was given)
What the everloving fuck
everloving
Woah there slow down, before your love reaches 6+ million undesirables.
Same as the love Israelis are showing Palestinians in Gaza.
Someone ping me when the ADL condemns Trump for this.
Why would they care about dead Jews from 80 years ago when trump is giving them the green light on killing Palestinians now?
When he’s done with the Palestinians, his love for the Jewish people and Israel will evaporate.
Authoritarian support of Zionism has never been about giving the Jewish people a place to live, but instead about having an excuse to exile the Jews in their midst. Zionism is anti-Semitic.
Yep, the reason for the holocaust was that the initial Nazi plan of exiling all the Jews to Madagascar was deemed impractical.
I mean, everything but extinction is impractical if you view your enemies as subhuman parasites.
Always has been. Ethnicity and religion are made-up divides. Any system that seeks to keep humans divided within themselves, amongst themselves is the beast system led by one of many antichrists. Religion has been perverted by religious and political alike, for political reasons. If religion isn’t uniting someone within themselves, amongst themselves, healing schisms rather than creating them, that religion worships false gods, usually money/power. Those are tools to be used to accomplish that goal and we have ceded our real power of integrity and made them lord and master.
No, not in the US. Here it’s absolutely about fear of Muslims and Iran. It’s about keeping them oppressed and controlled in an effort to prevent terrorist attacks. A lot of it is also just plain racism and skin color.
There are a lot of brown-faced populations in the Middle East for Israeli to genocide
Probably not as long as Israel remains firmly fascist. Trump and most of the GOP are sociopaths/psychopaths. I doubt most of them actually believe the white supremacism and racism they peddle. It’s a means of class warfare to divide and conquer — to attain and maintain power. Though, as we all know, the out groups are fluid and can change at the whim of madmen.
At this point I’m not even convinced Hitler or the Nazi senior leadership were as — at least, initially — anti-Jewish as they were sociopaths/psychopaths utilizing the pre-existing anti-Jewish sentiment to attain power. Though, there is the question whether acting racist and violently crushing all opposition reaches a point where they themselves either believe it, or wouldn’t dare voice the truth simply out of fear of being subject to the same violence they’ve used on others.
You’d have better odds of living to see Moshiach on earth.
Don’t wait up
I keep thinking it can’t get worse, then it somehow does
I think it can get much worse.
I need to treat it like a farce from now on for the sake of my mental health.
Netanyahu: this is the guy we want in the White House!
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And still students disliking genocide are the antisemites according to AIPAC and co.
Honestly, at this point I’m convinced that it’s AIPAC that is still spreading the meme that disillusioned Palestinians and their supporters cost Kamala the election. The really pro Palestine leftists are the type to either never participate in electoral politics anyway, or were strategic enough to vote for Kamala. Trump won because white middle America voted for him, not due to a handful of student protesters. I think AIPAC is still pushing the “Palestine protesters lost Kamala the race” as a means of making the Palestinian cause more unpopular. And frankly, it’s working. Any story on Gaza will have people gleefully celebrating it
I think AIPAC is still pushing the “Palestine protesters lost Kamala the race”
If AIPAC is pushing this narrative, it could backfire spectacularly. An alternate way to phrase this is “Kamala’s support for Israel cost her the election.”
Do you really think some white middle class middle Americans that only vaguely care about Palestine weren’t moved a notch against voting for Harris? There was percentage of them that was demotivated by a straw that broke the camels back.
Or more significantly that young new voters weren’t moved in this direction by pro-palestinian tiktok?
Sure, I wouldn’t put all the blame on that, but some of the blame goes there.
Also I fucking hate Leftists who “never vote” anyway so fuck them regardless.
And why would you assume there aren’t some pro-Zionist Democrats that voted for Kamala BECAUSE of her stance on Gaza? Every decision a campaign makes both gains and loses them votes.
I think the issue, in terms of its effects on the election, is largely a trivial matter that’s been blown way out of proportion, largely by AIPAC itself. I just don’t think there’s a very large population that cares about Palestinian issues that wouldn’t also vote vote for the optimal outcome for Gaza. Are there some? Sure. But I’m incredibly suspicious of anyone pushing the narrative that this had a substantial effect on the election. We’re talking about people educated enough on world affairs to care passionately about the plight of a small population on the other side of the planet, but also ignorant enough to go and vote for Donald Trump? How many people do you think actually meet both of those qualifications? It’s a tiny rounding error.
It seems like a disinformation campaign by AIPAC intended to sour the public on the rights of Gazans. The people who care about Gaza are primarily on the left side of the political spectrum. What better way to alienate the American left to the plight of the Gazans than to convince people on the left that the Gaza issue cost Kamala the election? The whole thing absolutely wreaks of an Israeli propaganda campaign.
If it’s not an AIPAC campaign, it’s largely just a self-serving story on the part of white voters. Trump won because white people voted overwhelmingly in favor of him. Even the concentration of Muslims in Michigan is completely irrelevant, as Trump would have won without winning Michigan. If it’s not an Israeli intelligence operation, blaming Kamala’s loss on Palestinians is ultimately just subtly veiled racism.
The numbers bear this out. Muslim voters voted for Kamala 46% to 43%. White voters voted for Trump 56% to 40%. Muslims voted for Harris at far higher rates than white people did.
Blaming Arabs and Muslims for Harris’s loss is just a way of scapegoating a racial and religious minority group. Trump won because white people overwhelmingly voted for him. Everything else is a rounding error. It’s just plain old racism, nothing more.
And why would you assume there aren’t some pro-Zionist Democrats that voted for Kamala BECAUSE of her stance on Gaza? Every decision a campaign makes both gains and loses them votes.
Because the propaganda surrounding Zionism and the level of support for Zionism overwhelmingly is on the republican’s side. Zionist democrats are primarily in the leadership not voting base. Zionist democrats among the voting base who would legitimately not vote for Harris if she had said she intended to reign in Israel (which she implied non-noncommittally to anyway) is undoubtedly smaller than pro-palestinian activists. Netanyahu is not even a popular leader among Israelis.
Even if the stance of reigning in Netanyahu was unpopular among Zionist democrats, there wouldn’t be nearly the same level of rage and zeal over such a move.
Now, I would say this was a tactical mistake on the part of democratic leaders in terms of winning, but more than likely their allegiance to Zionism is strong enough that they were clearly willing to increase the risk of losing in order to keep the political discourse more favorable to Israel if possible and did not want to give in rhetorically. And they paid for it. We all are going to pay for it.
Make no mistake, I fucking hate them for it. But I can be repulsed and disgusted by more than one group of people.
I think the issue, in terms of its effects on the election, is largely a trivial matter that’s been blown way out of proportion, largely by AIPAC itself. I just don’t think there’s a very large population that cares about Palestinian issues that wouldn’t also vote vote for the optimal outcome for Gaza. Are there some? Sure. But I’m incredibly suspicious of anyone pushing the narrative that this had a substantial effect on the election. We’re talking about people educated enough on world affairs to care passionately about the plight of a small population on the other side of the planet, but also ignorant enough to go and vote for Donald Trump? How many people do you think actually meet both of those qualifications? It’s a tiny rounding error.
It seems like a disinformation campaign by AIPAC intended to sour the public on the rights of Gazans. The people who care about Gaza are primarily on the left side of the political spectrum. What better way to alienate the American left to the plight of the Gazans than to convince people on the left that the Gaza issue cost Kamala the election? The whole thing absolutely wreaks of an Israeli propaganda campaign.
If it’s not an AIPAC campaign, it’s largely just a self-serving story on the part of white voters. Trump won because white people voted overwhelmingly in favor of him. Even the concentration of Muslims in Michigan is completely irrelevant, as Trump would have won without winning Michigan. If it’s not an Israeli intelligence operation, blaming Kamala’s loss on Palestinians is ultimately just subtly veiled racism.
The numbers bear this out. Muslim voters voted for Kamala 46% to 43%. White voters voted for Trump 56% to 40%. Muslims voted for Harris at far higher rates than white people did.
Blaming Arabs and Muslims for Harris’s loss is just a way of scapegoating a racial and religious minority group. Trump won because white people overwhelmingly voted for him. Everything else is a rounding error. It’s just plain old racism, nothing more.
You are making the grave mistake of overestimating people with in-group thinking. Most people who are voting around hot button issues like this are not deeply educated and even so being educated on world affairs doesn’t prevent irrational and emotional decision making.
That said, I wasn’t blaming Arabs and Muslims in my post maybe you should reread it.
I’m talking about the net effect of discouraging or demotivating non-arab & non-muslim democratic voters with “A vote for Harris is a vote for genocide” I’ve seen this type of propaganda first hand in real life.
Guilt is a strong (de)motivator. Just as much as outrage (maybe more so). Palestinian activists utilized both to largely harm Harris’s campaign.
Its not racism because I’m not directing my blame at a racial group. I’m directing my ire at dipshit white people who watch too much Tik Tok and decided not to vote because they did not want to “be complicit in genocide”. Just as much as dipshit Arab and Muslims who thought that it earnestly did not matter for Palestine who won. Or the portion that thought Trump might legitimately be better for Palestine. Even if most Arabs & Muslims who voted did in fact mostly vote Harris basically every minority group including them shifted towards Trump in 2024 compared to previous elections.
And make no mistake, I’m well aware that most white people voted Trump. My antipathy towards them is much much stronger, but I don’t want to yell at them and call them stupid. I’ve said on this very platform that if Canada (or Mexico) and the US legitimately had some kind of war and I had to pick I’d fight on the Mexico/Canada side and probably seek out MAGA homes and do some very not good things to those people. Maybe things international organizations would view… poorly. Most MAGA are white.
I just also feel zero motivation to assist people who helped the fascists win. Even if the blame on them is only partial. I wouldn’t commit violence against them but I’m not lifting a fucking finger for them either. They made their fucking bed.
Same with the non-voter people who suddenly realized its bad for them personally that Trump won. Whether they’re moderate Republicans, Centrists, “apolitical”, or anti-electorialist labor.
There are very few good people left by my count after this election.
Please let me treat Trump with the same love for 5 minutes.
Efficient I see.
"The misuse of language induces evil in the soul.”
–Socrates
so thats what nazis called the gas eh. can we get trump some of that love?
Only time I will ever say this but, I hope Trump gets the love he deserves. I only wish endless love for Trump.
So much love. The most love. Bigly love even. He’s going to have so much love, he won’t know where to put it all. He’ll have so much love, it’ll be hard to breathe. Suffocated by all that tariff free American love.
Heh. We want mercy for ourselves and “justice” for our neighbors. That’s what’s wrong with the world.
ha, theres no mercy in the u.s. the richest country in the world cant afford to solve for homelessness, hunger, education or racism
in the untied states justice means ‘revenge’.
It starts with individual attitude shifts, you know? If I was reared this way, and continued for another 3 decades and can make the shift, pretty much anyone can. The idea is not to shift back. While society and media seek to make it extremely difficult, it’s still very, very possible. Mandela had the right idea in not seeking revenge.
I wish I could agree with you. But mercy and lack of revenge the first time around is what brought us here today. Post civil war Reconstruction was far, far too kind to the people who thought they were entitled to owning the lives of other human beings.
Pollution doesn’t stay where we send it, literal or figurative. Weakness seeks to control others. Strength is calming our own inner beasts. Good luck friend.
??? We want mercy for our sorry lives full of procrastination and justice for the mas murderers.
love gas.
I think we should all show him how much we “love” him then. See how he likes it.
The same love that the Palestinians have been receiving
It’s only recently I’ve come to the frightening realization that…we’re all tensely waiting for World War 3 to start. It HAS started, the fronts just aren’t within the traditional empires; and a good 70% of the war is on ideology and propaganda.
I think WW3 already happened - it was fought with oil in the '70s and the West lost (badly) to OPEC. The current one is WW4 and fought with information - and we’re losing (badly) again.
sorry not to be a douche but I think you’re both wrong. The cold war never ended it’s been ongoing
And Russia won it without spending any money on their military. They just had to hire a room full of internet trolls.
Ehh nobody has won yet Russia is still doing their three day special military operation like 1000 days later. I wouldn’t call that a win.
I think just like WWI and WWII the major powers will all lose and new players get a shot at finding a seat at the table
