The c suite isn’t in the example, but I wonder how many executives are engineers or scientists. But if an engineer is doctor enters the c suite, do they stop being engineers or doctors
I work in healthcare. Majority c-suite at hospitals, clinics, or practices have both a science masters or doctorate AND a business degree. Same goes for directors and most managers.
Healthcare is one of the largest industries. So you’d be excluding tens of thousands in Manager and above.
You’ve made a false assumption I’ve only worked at one hospital. I’ve work a several and I currently work for a health tech company and regularly communicate with operational and clinical leaders at multiple hospitals. Our software is currently in 2000+ hospitals in the US. Plus several thousand surgical clinics and infusion centers.
The point is, even if you worked at several, it’s impossible to give an accurate estimate based on your own limited observations. Like you said, it’s a huge industry. I don’t mean to offend but I think a person working in health care should at least know a bit about levels of evidence and the like.
Running your software at a lot of places also doesn’t tell me much. You’ve made a failed argument from authority. No need to double down on it.
Healthcare software is implemented by clinical and non clinical professionals for the software company.
The c-suite leadership signs the contract, which we meet and learn their science and business credentials.
The clinical and non clinical folks then work with the directors and managers who lead workflow. We once again learn of their science and business credentials.
There’s no failed argument here. You’re making false assumptions and stomping around like you’re correct. You aren’t.
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
All you’ve proven is that you don’t know how healthcare organizations work or are structured.
I haven’t made any assumptions. All you’ve done is make assumptions that I’ve been making assumptions.
I get that you’ve met a bunch of health care C-suite. It’s just not that impressive. Your reiterated statement doesn’t tell us anything but the fact that you don’t understand what the basics of the levels of evidence that we use in medicine are. Nor what biases are, like your own confirmation bias.
They do stop being engineers and doctors, because now their job title is different? A doctor is someone that practices within their field, as with an engineer. They may still carry the qualification, and to a degree the skills necessary to be an engineer and doctor again, but that’s not their job any longer, thus not the appropriate title.
In terms of their skillset? Probably not immediately (skills may deteriorate due to lack of use over time). In terms of what they will be doing as part of the job, and how they use their skillset? To a certain degree, I would say yes.
The point is that they’re paid much worse than the C-suite who reap the benefits of other people’s hard work.
The c suite isn’t in the example, but I wonder how many executives are engineers or scientists. But if an engineer is doctor enters the c suite, do they stop being engineers or doctors
They are 100% in the example, but rather implicitly than explicitly.
And the engineer or scientists C-suite are probably a small minority. Most are business majors.
I work in healthcare. Majority c-suite at hospitals, clinics, or practices have both a science masters or doctorate AND a business degree. Same goes for directors and most managers.
Healthcare is one of the largest industries. So you’d be excluding tens of thousands in Manager and above.
I don’t think you’ve seen the majority of C-suite in hospitals and other health centers just because you work in health care.
And it’s a large industry, but it’s only one among thousands.
So this is an assumption stacked on top of an assumption.
You’ve made a false assumption I’ve only worked at one hospital. I’ve work a several and I currently work for a health tech company and regularly communicate with operational and clinical leaders at multiple hospitals. Our software is currently in 2000+ hospitals in the US. Plus several thousand surgical clinics and infusion centers.
Did I make that assumption? Where?
The point is, even if you worked at several, it’s impossible to give an accurate estimate based on your own limited observations. Like you said, it’s a huge industry. I don’t mean to offend but I think a person working in health care should at least know a bit about levels of evidence and the like.
Running your software at a lot of places also doesn’t tell me much. You’ve made a failed argument from authority. No need to double down on it.
Again making assumptions.
There’s no failed argument here. You’re making false assumptions and stomping around like you’re correct. You aren’t.
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
All you’ve proven is that you don’t know how healthcare organizations work or are structured.
Tripling down isn’t going to help you.
I haven’t made any assumptions. All you’ve done is make assumptions that I’ve been making assumptions.
I get that you’ve met a bunch of health care C-suite. It’s just not that impressive. Your reiterated statement doesn’t tell us anything but the fact that you don’t understand what the basics of the levels of evidence that we use in medicine are. Nor what biases are, like your own confirmation bias.
My company’s CEO started was a software developer at the company…
They do stop being engineers and doctors, because now their job title is different? A doctor is someone that practices within their field, as with an engineer. They may still carry the qualification, and to a degree the skills necessary to be an engineer and doctor again, but that’s not their job any longer, thus not the appropriate title.
Yes? If you stop doing engineering work, then you’re not a practicing engineer.
(Unfortunately) you don’t get paid for the work you put in, or else there’d be UBI. You only get paid for what you do, and sometimes not even that.
In terms of their skillset? Probably not immediately (skills may deteriorate due to lack of use over time). In terms of what they will be doing as part of the job, and how they use their skillset? To a certain degree, I would say yes.