• Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
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    2 months ago

    Not only do they cost more, the greater surface area means your cold drink warms up faster.

    Neat.

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      Hey we get this revolutionary super can which is supposed to keep your beer cool.
      The ribs are supposed to reduce the contact area of warm fingers.
      It doesn’t work obviously since they aren’t big enough and skin on fingers are flexible enough to touch everything.
      You only pay 30 to 50% more for this nonsense.
      Everyone tries to avoid them but somehow the normal cans are more than often ‘sold out’ in stores.

    • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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      Greater surface area also means more material for the same product, which leads to less effective transport, more waste and increased polution. Non-standarized can size means every can storage system and cup holder which have taken can size into consideration will be worse. I’m sure a lot of vending machines will have to be modified or scrapped for this can design.

      Everyone are worse off because of this, and it’s all for attempting to trick consumers and increase profits. Shit sucks.

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        Greater surface area also means more material for the same product, which leads to less effective transport, more waste and increased polution.

        Weren’t soda companies whining about aluminum costs just recently? Guess they found some extra in order to fleece their customers.

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      Oil prices go up - petrol goes up.

      Oil prices go down - petrol goes up.

      Oil prices do nothing - petrol goes up.

      Petrol is purposeful and independent.

      Be like petrol!

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      I thought it was the other way around. The thickest part of the can is the top, followed by the bottom. The sides are much thinner. I thought the reasoning behind switching to tall and narrow cans with the same internal volume was to save on aluminium.

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        2 months ago

        Tops are pretty much standars size on all cans I’m pretty sure. So that part should be constant.

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          That looks like a 202 vs a 200 can end, so a “sleek” not a “slim” (red bull can is slim)

          The sleek can is 355 ml and uses a 200 end.

          As for which uses more aluminum… Good question. It’s probably close

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      It’s definitely more surface area per volume, but a 200 vs 202 lid and a smaller hermetic seal cancels some of those losses. Sidewall is cheap aluminum wise, but you’re likely right in that it’s a little more aluminum. Definitely costs more to make since they do fill a little slower.

      Also fuck coke, what a bunch of assholes

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        The larger diameter of the original can plus the angled transition at either end probably means same surface area of aluminium. Small diameter differences make larger circumferential changes.

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          They do, but overall the can end (lid) is a LOT more aluminum than you expect and the whole rest of it isn’t as much as you expect.

          So a little less lid is worth a fair bit more sidewall in terms of weight of aluminum

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            2 months ago

            Since they apparently have the same volume, could one of you be a hero and steal one of each and weigh them?

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        It’s far from being that only, check the ingredients (especially if using the zero sugar/calories version)

        Yuka is a great app to tell you this as well, if you’re okay with it

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    Just straight up stop buying shit. Drink filtered tap, and live off only what you need and shrug off ppl that think buying expensive shit will make them cool.

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        Where I live has heavy agriculture and oil industry presence. People here are concerned over pesticides and random chemicals randomly seeping into the water system.

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            The water is tested and 99% of the time it is probably safe to drink. But who knows how much of it you will drink before it is discovered (and then even longer to reveal) that there was an issue with the water.

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        Sadly not everyone has great chlorine-free water. One of the most annoying experiences every time I go abroad (for example to Italy)

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          Quite true. Not everyone has lead-free water either. But people whose water is perfectly great do not need to pay for filtered water - especially not in single-use plastic bottles.

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      The liberal media wants you to think that the two volumes of liquid are equal using their woke science, but if you use your common sense, you can clearly see that the narrow tube is filled higher and therefore contains more liquid. There is nothing wrong with the economy, real Americans just need to use narrower glasses. Checkmate, leftists. /s

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      Yes! I love this comic (well, I guess it wasn’t originally) and reference it all the time. I was randomly very curious which shot glasses we own are the biggest and was trying to use this as an example because we have some tall skinny ones and short fat ones. “You know! The thing where kids think the tall one is bigger??”

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        This is Piaget’s conservation of volume test. I did this experiment at school (we went to the elementary school next door and ran tests on the kids). Most of the kids said the higher one held more liquid because it was ‘taller’, though some said the short one had more because it was ‘fatter’.

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    I mean it sucks and I drink coke (it’s my mix for booze) but it’s a welcome change (price increase). Soda pop should not be drunk as frequently as it is by people and anything to make it less common is a welcome change IMHO. If becoming more cost prohibitive to people makes them drink it less that’s not a bad thing

    Now the challenge becomes, because America is becoming a 3rd world shithole it’s possible that coke is the only safe drink because thanks to the EPA being gutted over decades water isn’t safe in many areas due to contamination. That’s not cool.

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      You know that has a lot of sugar, which is a poison and will kill you right?

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          Hey friend, I’m not the one complaining about the water or people drinking too much.
          It’s friday and I’m going to have plenty of drinks, there will be no soda in sight.
          I wish you a good weekend.

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    So that’s why they changed the shape. I saw no valid reason so I just assumed they were trying to evade taxes in some way. I’ll admit I have no idea how much anything I buy at a convenience store costs.

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      If anything the taller cylinder will use more aluminum for the same volume, so they’re kinda shooting themselves in the foot here with aluminum and steel tariffs, lol

      Seems pretty clear the only reason for this was to change the price without as many people noticing.

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        Regular cans are somewhat inefficient shapes as well, shorter and fatter would be more economical, but less ergonomical and for once that won out, for a while anyway. Now we get designed by marketing instead.