• Poxlox@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    According to these commenters and bingo cards anyone who criticized this artist is an incel. To me she just makes mid borderline lame/cringe comics. Was happy not seeing her stuff after leaving Reddit lo and behold shes back with comics denoting imaginary scenarios without any punchlines. Go ahead and check a bingo square and call me an incel her work sucks.

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    Yup. This checks all of the “that is definitely how people talk”-boxes. It’s like an invented dialogue meets a fantasy answer.

    Can we not have AIop being upvoted to the top? Thanks.

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    24 days ago

    I read all the comments and I still don’t understand what makes this comic interesting

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        24 days ago

        I don’t even understand what the joke is or if there even is one

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            This is false. The joke is that she is being sarcastic and derisive to an arrogant man for his foolish assumptions. Do you only see punchlines as highly literal observational ends to highly structured jokes? Because there’s a lot of jokes that aren’t structured this way or built on punchlines, set ups, observations, or the like.

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          I guess melodramatic sarcasm isn’t for everyone. I got a nice little chuckle out of it.

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      It’s a political statement. Guys are talking this way. Sure it’s a caricature, but that doesn’t make the statement less meaningful. Toxic masculinity is just that…it’s toxic AF, and while I may not think she has the funniest comic ever, it’s a good way to showcase the absurdity of our current times.

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      It’s four panel joke. 1. An arrogant man says he would never be with woman he’s apparently never met and knows nothing about 2. The woman, rather than being upset, leans into his arrogant rejection by pretending she is devastated at the rejection 3-4 she continues to sarcastically be upset about the rejection to mock and derid this arrogant man.

      That’s it man. Pretty simple joke.

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          But the question is, does that mean that the amount of time you spend focusing on it, asking about it, demanding strangers explain it to you, an even stupider use of time and effort?

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            23 days ago

            Since it’s top post I thought I was missing something. Now I’m confused why it’s top post

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      25 days ago

      There’s no joke. People seem to enjoy feeling either superior or outraged or both and the name of the game is user engagement. That’s how you end up with this type of thing.

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        25 days ago

        Huh? I dont care who made the comic im just wondering what the actual punchline is.

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          The punchline is entirely self-referential. Or rather, there isn’t a punchline. This is a really basic exchange as could be found in the real comment sections of basically any woman posting photos of herself online.

          Except that the person who draws this comic uses it primarily to advertise her OnlyFans, so somehow she’s connected annoyance with the constant promotion of her terrible joke-free comics with the same thing that that means all criticism of her is incel fury and not, yknow, people wanting comics to be promoted for how good they are rather than how entrenched her subscribers are.

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            24 days ago

            I see now what everyone’s talking about, without really broaching the subject (without sounding totally incel). This sums is up nicely, although even including that she does OF will make some people call you the incel. At any rate, thank you

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          Some men think women care about “value” of people when dating but instead women are either not looking for a relationship or not as objectifying as these men

          The punchline is that women now use this dumb “value” idea to filter out who to even associate with in the first place, by just avoiding any guy who mentions this shit

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            I guess i just don’t like these type of comics. It’s akin to someone posting “Haterz r my motivatorz!” on facebook circa 2011

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              This is better imo, part of the punchline here is that she’s already married and is just fucking annoyed by this guy hitting on her in the most disrespectful way possible

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    25 days ago

    Can we please not bring pizza cake comics over from reddit? They’re so mid they aren’t even funny. Strawman comics that show off the author’s frustrations.

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    I can see that people don’t always know how to word their critique. But the point is simple: This is a toxic way to deal with that type of annoyance in your life. It’s a comic, indeed, maybe not meant to be taken seriously, but I would much better see comics about interesting, or fun things. This type of ordinary, sarcastic social commentary you present as a comic does not help your cause nor make the sub a better place. Let’s not perpetrate the “owning” culture so prevalent in social media. Shall you?

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      Questionable Content is a worlds better artist, this “artist” routinely recycles old art into new slop targeted at r/all

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      25 days ago

      It’s taking the piss out of Andrew Tate and the gullible guys that he’s convinced are superior to women.

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      From all the trending news articles, ten year old boys who got access to tik tok

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      I just went through the last 10 days of posts in the community. This is the only PC one that shows up in that time frame. Other artists have multipes in that time. So, less than once a week… guess there are different ideas of what is spam.

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        Any normal human would go, “Whatever” and move on.

        But not this person. They wanted to let people know that they have been visually assaulted, made up a story about seeing it too much, and then even says “I’m blocking you!”

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    It’s such a stupid satire by a sad person who can’t address valid criticism and who feel that their only recourse is to make up a fantasy.

    Staw man/Fantasy: Guy telling a random woman on the street, who happens to be married, “I wouldn’t even date you”. The strong and independent woman answers with sarcasm.

    Reality: The woman is a single mother with 10+ past partners who has failed to secure a good father for her child. She puts herself online and gets scrutinized and criticized.

    This is not a defense of particular internet personalities, who may or may not deserve criticism on their own. Rather, it’s to point out that these comics are stupid, and don’t address valid criticism that’s out there that need to be addressed properly.

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      Staw man/Fantasy: Guy telling a random woman on the street, who happens to be married, “I wouldn’t even date you”. The strong and independent woman answers with sarcasm.

      This is one of the most prominent parts of manosphere ideology, and they are not quiet about it or shy about sharing it. We used to call it “negging”. This comic is pointing out the absurdity of toxic men thinking they are too good for most women.

      Reality: The woman is a single mother with 10+ past partners who has failed to secure a good father for her child.

      I have no idea what the reality is for this cartoonist, nor do I care, but you’ve managed to make three misogynistic value judgments in one short sentence, which is kind of impressive in a sad and pathetic way. First, there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a single mother. Second, a woman’s worth is not determined by the number of past partners she’s had, a standard which is never applied to men. Third, securing a good father for her child is not the be-all-end-all goal of a single mother. Raising her child(ren) is. This can be done with or without a man involved.

      This is not a defense of particular internet personalities, who may or may not deserve criticism on their own.

      Maybe not, but it sure comes off as an endorsement of their values.

      Rather, it’s to point out that these comics are stupid, and don’t address valid criticism that’s out there that need to be addressed properly.

      So a comic strip didn’t address sexism in the specific way that you approve of, and you think the proper response is to degrade the cartoonist as a whorish single mother who can’t find a good man?

      Dude. You are the guy in the comic.

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        First, there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a single mother.

        Single motherhood is not easy, and I have sympathy for any woman who has become a single mother with no power of her own. The critique is not aimed at single motherhood, but rather at women who make (selfish) decisions in life that leaves the children without a father. It cannot be understated how damaging that can be for her children.

        One reason why I said that certain internet personalities deserve criticism on their own is that they advocate for men engaging in promiscuity and cause the same problems that these personalities claim they dislike.

        Second, a woman’s worth is not determined by the number of past partners she’s had, a standard which is never applied to men.

        Yes, it’s a factor that men will judge a woman by. It makes sense, because a more extensive past will more likely affect a future relationship.

        Men should be held to a higher standard as well, I don’t disagree with that.

        Third, securing a good father for her child is not the be-all-end-all goal of a single mother. Raising her child(ren) is. This can be done with or without a man involved.

        It has been shown that children who are raised with a single parent fare worse than with both parents. It’s clear that single motherhood is not something to be desired, neither for the children nor the mothers themselves. Many single mothers are complaining, on the internet about this, so it’s strange that you are trying to defend them by claiming that there is no issue to complain about…

        So a comic strip didn’t address sexism in the specific way that you approve of, and you think the proper response is to degrade the cartoonist as a whorish single mother who can’t find a good man?

        I wasn’t talking about the cartoonist. I was talking about the made up characters that supposedly reflect reality. When someone sees this comic, it’s most likely that they don’t think about who drew it. They will likely see the comic in isolation from the artist, just like I did.

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    25 days ago

    Today in things that never happened:

    Or maybe it would happen in the US. I wouldn’t be surprised anymore.

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      Either you never seen the comment section of any post ever, or you the dude who makes these kind of comments.

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        Yes, because comment sections on Lemmy/Reddit/Social Media are a good metric for what happens AFK. We saw that when Lemmy/Reddit perfectly predicted the crushing loss of Donald Trump.

        Oh wait…

        I’d suggest going out more and hanging out with real people.

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    I feel like this is one of those conversations you make up in your head and it’s kinda cringe to write it down.

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      From my experience men often underestimate how often women face weirdos. While the whole conversation might happen only in authors head the initial comment of the guy is quite a regular thing. It is a form of bullying. The rest of the conversation might happen in the authors head only, but it’s sad that women have to face such behavior in the first place IMO. If you don’t think such conversation happens at all, you might get enlightened by the everyday sexism project, the related (audio)book, or just ask a friendly woman around you if they ever faced it. https://everydaysexism.com/

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      Just look at this thread. People are out in force acting superior to her and putting her down for having an only fans. Theyre providing unsolicited feedback, acting “high valued” without even realize theyre doing it. This comic is showing how she sees the unsolicited feedback from these people on the internet, and calls it out as it is, inconsequential to her life. And what do those very same people do? Get even more upset.

      Frankly, i knew nothing about this lady before this thread happened. It’s been a wild ride for me to follow

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      Actually it is a regular thing among the asshole “manosphere” crowd (i.e. the pathetic fucking losersphere).

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        I can see this as a twitter exchange for sure but irl it seems very shower thoughtesque. It could be that a very online person framed it as an irl thing and that what’s jarring.

        Then again I am not a woman and cannot speak to that experience.

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          There is a whole generation of men being indoctrinated right now that believe women shouldn’t have any rights. Most feminist women on Instagram that I have seen have gotten a multitude of rape and murder threats.

          It is nice for you if you never noticed the rampant sexism and general hatefulness that people on the internet show against any minorities they find but I’ve seen several instances of similar exchanges as shown in this comic just in the last two weeks.

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            Sure, misogyny exists. I’m talking about somebody referring to themselves as “high value” and calling the person they’re talking to a “loud-mouthed, opinionated wench”. It’s just really heavy-handed dialogue.

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              Those people unironically say stuff like “I wouldn’t even rape you” and call women that don’t look like they are about to die of anorexia fat. They exist in spades, Lemmy just isn’t the right kind of social media for those people to come out with such stuff (except for maybe this post).