Coming home too damn tired to do anything else, even including chores, is top for me.
I have dishes lying around, laundry needing to be done at somepoint, some extra small tasks to do. But, trying to go ‘above and beyond’ for a shitty job just leaves you with nothing left to do them, having to waste time off to finally do them.
I’m in a building that’s not my home, for 8 hours (used to have some days where it was 10 hours), a night. Where my company tries to tell me to treat their building that I work in, as a second home. Dealing with all of these tasks that ultimately mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Dealing with people who conveniently forget a lot of the time, as to how to be a normal human being and they being at your expense.
And in addition to coming home too damn tired to do anything else, I’m sometimes worrying if what I’m making now for however many hours, is enough to cover everything I need to have or want to have.
I honestly hate work itself, I’m not doing what I want if I’m working. There is no job I want.
I tell this to people and they simply do not understand. “What if you found something you like doing, then it’s not really work!” It’s still working. I will not enjoy it. I would rather have the freedom to choose what I’m doing at any particular time. People just cannot grasp that idea. But I also may not be explaining myself well, such is life.
People are brainwashed to believe that their value is tied to their productivity
Depends what value. It is good to be contributing to society. But you can still be contributing and not working 996
True, but most people confuse contributing to society with contributing to billionaire pocket linings
There is a difference
What is your hobby? I turned my hobby (web design) into a business in 2004 while in college because I had the same mentality you posted.
I really struggle with work that doesn’t feel meaningful. It’d be nice to feel like I was contributing something meaningful to my community. My favorite jobs were working for school districts. Not teaching, but just being a part of that overall system felt so satisfying.
Same, worked for a nonprofit for 7 of my 12 adult years that rented space to 2 schools (small high school and a daycare/preschool) within their buildings and we had our own services after session. Wasn’t directly involved with the teaching for the schools but did maintain all the computers for students and teachers while having a small program training a couple of the teens to manage a repair shop fixing those computers. That provided more satisfaction than any other job since, even though I will still hate Roblox with a passion on how much like a virus it acts to whatever it gets installed to, I’d do it again if the opportunity was open, but it was a unique deal between the three.
All of it.
I would love nothing more than to never work another day in my life.
I just hate the shitty adults and their pointless gossip. Who does it help if you shit on someone’s haircut? No one, Michael. You ass.
Yeah but Dmitry’s bowl cut is really, really bad
I have less days off than a peasant from feudal times…
Don’t worry protoserf, feudal times are making a comeback.
Sounds like it’s time to go “below & within” for your employer
Many times the people who would make the best decisions are not authorized to make decisions.
Should we go into the office every day? Well the workers say no, objective productivity measurements say no, the environment says no, but some insipid sack of shit feels like it’s better.
Should we spend twenty minutes improving this process? No, some higher up who doesn’t understand software development decided that we don’t do it that way. Keep doing it manually.
Should we compensate people well enough so they don’t leave after a year or two? No, pay the absolute minimum and keep hiring entry level people. Saving so much on labor costs!
When management/HR treats the employees like children in kindergarten with condescening words and tone of voice, playing stupid games to force getting to know co-workers, and generally having an “I am better than all of you” attitude.
Being forced to stand on jobs where you’re just doing a repetitive task that doesn’t require moving around. Guarding a single door, cashier in a shop, QA inspector on a assembly line, etc. No god damn reason these should require being on your feet 8-12+ hours.
Physical labor in general. Shit hurts.
How to get a promotion you’re supposed to first go out of your way to do extra work they should hire for for no additional pay. I tried it at 2 jobs, both times I ended up doing the extra work for no pay for years before I left.
Meanwhile, every year, the yearly raise is less than inflation.
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The well paying jobs that don’t have massive amounts of overtime are 8-5.
I am not a morning person. Ever since starting an office job where I have to get up at 6 a.m. to get the kiddo to school so I can make it to work by 8:00 has been a continuously escalating level of exhaustion because it doesn’t matter how much sleep I get, it is when.
It is less bad during the summer on the days I get to work from home as I can at least sleep till 7:30 or so. If I could just work 10-6 with no lunch I would never be tired again, but too many people in leadership positions see rising early as a virtue because that is what they were always told or they happen to be morning people.
No, don’t tell me I have a sleeping disorder or I just need to work on going to bed early unless you tell people who wake up early that they should just sleep in. Different people have different sleep schedules and it only looks like a disorder because of social expectations.
I fully agree with you and I am a morning person. I don’t understand why in an increasingly distributed world why you can’t just have bands of start times. It’s better for productivity, better for distributed relations, heck probably even better for traffic congestion.
They want everyone in the office for the same hours so we can collaborate. But we don’t need to collaborate for 8 hours a day and it is perfectly fine for people to come in at 7 and leave by 3:30, and hour and a half early, because of the stupid early to rise bullshit. But fuck me for asking if I could do the opposite when my kiddo is done with school and come in at 9:30 to 6 (half hour lunch required) because that would be too late in the morning.
It is all stupid.
I love what i do and the kids and people that i work with. Administration is incompetent and has become more and more micromanaging because they don’t understand that they’re the problem. I’ve been out since October, going back in Feb, will probably quit in may at the end of the school year and do something different.
I hate playing the diplomacy game. I’m an engineer. I should be able to present the data and have it speak for itself. Sure there’s some skill in data presentation, but I shouldn’t have to kiss up to get my project approved.
That we are contributing to a dehumanizing system with no purpose other than propping up inequality and injustice and constantly generating more power for psychopaths to misuse to spread war and terror and destroy the planet and every living thing on it.
Yikes! I wouldn’t want to work at your company!
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I could be a professional gamer, but doing it for 40 hours a week every week, would get tiring.
It’s the monotony that kills me in ANYTHING I do. I don’t know if it’s the ADHD in me or what, but I love variety. My job is painfully easy, but my god, it is such a drain to do the same thing day in and day out.
None of the things you mention has anything to do with the job itself. How you show up and when is what matters.
There’s a lot of mythology around work that is just no longer true and hasn’t been true since the 1990s, if not the 1980s.
The only time your boss cares about you going “above and beyond” is in situations where it will make them look good to their boss. Don’t waste your energy going above and beyond just randomly. It won’t get noticed and it’ll only burn you out.
Providing quality customer service is never wasted effort, but it doesn’t mean putting up with entitled customers. If people aren’t interacting with you at least calmly, don’t waste the energy engaging. Don’t engage with adults having tantrums.
Most importantly - don’t dilute your wage. If you’re hourly, be meticulous about clock-in and clock-out times. Don’t do work unless you’re on the clock. If you’re salary, that means you give what you have; it doesn’t mean you kill yourself for the job. If I’m sick, my salary pays for the ~30% effort that I’ve got to give. Trying to give 100% when you don’t have it is a great way to burn yourself out and gain nothing in return. If you’re good at something other people value, never ever do it for free. All people will do is take advantage.
Most household chores that actually need to be done boil down to a handful of things that need daily attention and can be done in 15 minutes or less, the weekly crap that takes 30 minutes or less once a week, and then monthly and quarterly maintenance cycles. If you’re spending more than ~30 min. a day, plus ~1 hour on the weekends doing choring, you’re probably wasting your energy on things that don’t truly matter. You can scale back and not worry so much about keeping your space ready for a Martha Stewart catalog. Focus on what’s truly essential and let the rest slide.
So it takes about 30 minutes just to clean the bathroom. For me, that’s dusting top to bottom so the cobwebs and dust don’t build up and baseboards and light fixtures only need to be better cleaned a few times a year; cleaning the sink and cabinets, toilet inside and out, tub inside and out, shower walls, soap dishes/dispensers, tp holder, vacuuming and mopping. My bathroom isn’t that big either. Then there’s the bedroom, laundry room, hallways, living room and kitchen. That’s not counting laundry or cleaning the kitchen after meals. Can you please share how you do everything in 30 minutes a week?
That’s the trick - I don’t do everything. It just isn’t physically possible. So, I don’t kill myself trying.
For a full bathroom (sink, toilet, tub and shower), I prioritize the stuff that matters most - toilet and sink. Cleaning those takes me 10 minutes, tops. Those are what stays clean on a day to day basis. Everything else gets dealt with weekly (sweeping, trash), monthly (tub, shower) or less frequently.
The lie Americans have told themselves is that it is possible for a family of 2-4 to perform a ridiculous number of tasks to live in 4-star hotel conditions their entire adult lives. It’s a fantasy that has people killing themselves to dust corners of their homes that literally nobody sees or cares about.
You’ve got better things to do with your time than dusting. Like resting from your day job.
The way that I read the person whose comment you’re replying to you clean the bathroom in 30 min weekly that’s one weeknight clean or half your weekend cleans.
I don’t think they are saying 30 min a week, but 30 min weekly tasks over multiple days (I calculate about 4 hours per week which is close to my “maintenance” cleaning)
Ah, that makes more sense. I try to do that but the irregular work hours messes with it so I just roll with it as best I can.
In my field of work, going above and beyond has tangible benefits to children’s lives. I go above and beyond for their sake.
