• TOR-anon1@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    I’m a beginner at drawing, but I’d wager people would choose that over AI.

    Right?

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      I’ve got people praising my poorly drawn graphs, of all things. 5min stuff like this:

      So yes, odds are they’ll like your drawings better over mass produced AI slop.

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        How I read the image:

        In the song, Badger is a monotone repetition, hence being the X axis. When Mushroom comes in, it pitches up, hence being the Y axis. Then, when Snake comes in it fluctuates in pitch with an overall rise.

        The humor is clever enough on its own, but the roughly sketched chart with clipart sells the fact that the joke is in the delivery and being sent quickly without being overly refined to the point that it looks polished. The rough rounding of the background makes it even more funny for me, because it was like an attempt was made.

        Peak artistic humor by looking like an idea was thrown together to get the joke out as fast as possible. Maybe it was quick, maybe it took time to do for the end result, but the look comes through.

        Perfection

    • LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
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      If it’s funny enough, the art is secondary. If the at is perfect, the joke still needs to be at least passable.

      Just because it’s human made, doesn’t mean it’s automatically good.

      Sometimes the bad art becomes its own part of the joke (xkcd).

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    The lack of karma also does wonders in this. It means people sharing AI-generated content will do it when they genuinely think others will enjoy it, so it’s only a handful of pictures that turned out good. They won’t for example mass produce them to farm upvotes here.

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    That’s assuming OP tags it as AI, though. I don’t have that much faith in the people who would spread AI slop in the first place. It’s a nice feature, and I’m not shitting on it, but it’s less impressive to me once I factor in the human equation.

    Or can mods apply the “AI” tag to it? I still need to at least try Piefed.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    Like nearly everything else, there’s a gray area. We don’t need to reject generative AI images outright, although, that’s the easiest path for lazy people–to see everything as black or white.

    On Christmas, I posted an AI photorealistic image of Bruce Willis and Alan Rickman dressed in pajamas in front of a Christmas tree arguing over a Lego Nakatomi Plaza kit. It’s funny, and it doesn’t hurt anyone. I think that’s an acceptable use of generative AI images.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      There’s no gray area about the resource cost and contribution to climate change being driven by gen AI though, youre just trying to justify it.

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        I do think you’re raising valid concerns regarding resource consumption + climate change. However:

        youre just trying to justify it.

        Learn to phrase things without disingenuously putting words into the others’ mouths dammit. This is not Reddit, behave like a decent person instead of a redditor. Nothing the other user said can be even remotely interpreted as “the energy cost is justified”, in fact they didn’t even talk about resource consumption.

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          That they didn’t talk about the resource consumption is part of the problem. Discussing whether the output of a genai system is ‘art’ or not is a fine philosophical debate, but ignores both the costs of creating the output, and the way the data to do so was sourced and processed.

          If human ‘artists’ burned through the same amount of power, water, and other resources just to produce their art there would also be an outcry. If the raw materials that ‘art’ was created from were so blatently copied from others there would also be an outcry. Indeed, when a human is found to be copying another’s work and passing it off as their own, there is an outcry.

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          It’s funny, and it doesn’t hurt anyone.

          It sure sounds to me like they were trying to justify it. Funny or not, if it hurts everyone so no, it’s not a justified use. Hurting anyone, let alone everyone, just for the lolz is far from acceptable.

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            “It doesn’t hurt anyone.” does not automatically lead to “I think the energy consumption and its impact is justified”, unless the user claimed 1) that they’re aware of the impact, and 2) that they’re sharing that comment as a counterpoint to that impact.

            (Note I’m not even disagreeing with their core argument. Seriously, I low key want to use image generation for some stuff, but when I think on the energy usage I simply “eh… let’s not.” I think the way you phrased it in another comment is way better.)

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          Thats in no way “putting words in their mouth”, I was pointing out what they were saying. Their point literally coalesced into “i posted a funny picture and it didn’t hurt anyone” which is factually untrue by participating in driving demand for harmful tech.

          I wasnt insulting in any way, I was illustrating how their point fell apart. There is real, quantifiable harm.

          Whatever though

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      Generative ai is just a tool for creating text and images. Not everything created using is art, just like not every piece of text written by a human or an bunch of pixels drawn in photoshop is art. What matters is intention of the author, the effort put in and whether other people perceive it as art.

      It silly to call everything created by ai as art, but not because of the tool used. Most of it is not art simply because it was not created for that purpose, it is there for pure silly entertainment.

      It is equally silly to vehemently hate it if the creator does not even claim it’s art.

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    AI haters on Lemmy are good entertainment. Imagine adults getting mad because they discover what tool a meme was made with. Half the time they can’t even tell.

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      people can’t tell when I spit onetheir food… I guess that means it’s perfectly fine for them to eat spit, right?… good to know

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      Most AI generated things is just shit, especially to look at, if you can’t recognize 99% of AI generated images then there is a problem tbh.

      Thought it’s real that sometimes people exaggerate and hate the use of AI for everthing when there are clearly some good uses.