“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*
A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.
The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.
Say the words. He called her a “Fucking bitch”. Stop fucking censoring language, especially over something like this. If the words offend you, GOOD. You should be fucking offended. (I know OP just reposted the articles censoring - this is directed at the article more than OP)
We don’t need MORE proof. Insinuating we need any more proof gives a veneer of validity to the suggestion there is any doubt at all. This is typical right wing “inundate with bullshit” that leaves anyone with a shred of hope of having an honest discussion constantly scrambling to offer more and more proof while the fact is that the Right DO NOT CARE. They’re here to “win”; honesty, morals, truth, reality be damned.
“There’s a new video?! Well then…let’s invade…oh…I don’t know…Bermuda!?”
No it doesn’t. - MAGA
She had been this for years. years!!! -MAGAcucks
Yeah… All the responses to that Twitter post were in defense of ICE… Incredible.
Are there any unsympathetic voices left on Twitter, though? I’m sure the Packers forums have some interesting opinions on yesterday’s football game, too.
The shitbag Ross reacted like a Gestapo or NKVD thug.
It’s a template. In the future, your list will include ICE Agent.
Yes, walking in front of, and behind a vehicle with it’s engine on SHOULD have made him feel danger. No one told him to walk in front of and behind a vehicle with the engine on, but if I’m wrong, and someone actually did tell him to do that, they’re the responsible party. If he made that decision on his own, it’s called contributory negligence.
And the fact that he circled the vehicle multiple times makes it clear he was trying to create a problem.
That video is tainted. No custody of evidence. The shooter had 48 hours to edit the video.
Sync up the video /audio to thwle dozen others and see if things line up? How much time was removed from the phone?
If the video conveniently “proved” his claims of self defense, you’d have a point. But it clearly doesn’t. It shows he murdered her and his claims of self defense are a blatant lie. You’re literally arguing “well maybe it was self defense because the video could have been edited by the PERPETRATOR to not show it was self defense”. Like wtf?! You’re arguing that the dude purposely edited the video to make himself look worse.
Im not saying the video proves innocence. It can be manipulated and still not help the officer. The fact is ICe/magazine arent the smartest people and I would challenge that video on the basis of custody alone.
And again, arguing custody would be arguing AGAINST the shooter. AT BEST, it would get the video thrown out and then we’d just look at the 4 other videos that all show the exact same thing. It literally doesn’t help, at all. It literally only would add a charge of tampering with evidence.
Pro-ICE voices (not necessarily people) think that the video supports the white house claims. The leaked site is right wing, and Vance shared it saying people should watch it.
It’s crazy that this video seems to be such a Rorschach test.
Yeah I’m pretty sure their take on it is “her gay leftie lover made him feel threatened”
Aka setting the "don’t worry, she wasn’t ‘one of us’ " distinction for the MAGAtts
It still could be used as a argument by the right in that way.
And it would be a dumb fucking argument considering the 3-4 other videos that all corroborate this one. Stop being retarded and proposing half-assed “what-ifs”. Besides the fact that him editing it would be tampering with evidence and IS ITS OWN CRIME. Yeah, he’s just gonna admit to illegally tampering with the video to make himself look worse to create reasonable doubt… when other videos clearly show the incident as well. Ffs, I know these people are morons but you’re taking the cake.
There is really no need to use slurs.
Yeah, I don’t subscribe to that euphemism treadmill bullshit. Maybe save your outrage for things that are actually offensive, like our government murdering people in cold blood, not fucking words. This neutering of our language is bullshit and yes, some things are fucking retarded and need to be called out as such. Trying to defend the shooter here is fucking retarded. I stand by what I said.
And this is why liberals hate other liberals. Were discussing a fucking murder and you’re over here complaining about language. Unless you’re this perfect idealized liberal, other liberals will take the time to bring you down instead of the much more pressing and bigger issue.
Seriously, fuck off with this retarded fucking shit. We NEED words for when things are so ass backwards and anti-logical. I’m not gonna sit here and wish that we “unalive the meanies”. Grow a fucking spine.
Drones with 4K cameras are like 50$.
Okay yeah, true. But… I don’t understand who you think should’ve been flying one?
Uh… everyone? Anyone? You guys have more guns than people but you don’t understand who should have a 50$ flying toy?
First, have you ever flown one of those, or do you think you’re getting 247 automated drone overwatch with 50 dollars? How do you think they’re controlled?
Secondly, no, my country doesn’t fucking do that. Maybe assume a bit less.
First, have you ever flown one of those, or do you think you’re getting 247 automated drone overwatch with 50 dollars? How do you think they’re controlled?
There are many ways to get a drone to fly autonomously over a short mission. You may want to figure it out considering where your country is headed. In my country we’re forced to start thinking about it, because you guys may not fix your shit (and your defeatist attitude is contributing to that). Trump is planning an invasion of Mexico and Greenland. You need to catch up.
Secondly, no, my country doesn’t fucking do that. Maybe assume a bit less.
Your country is not what you think it is. The good Americans who want to stop it from becoming a fascist imperialist monster have not figured out or accepted what they need to do to get there. If you’re one of them I suggest you may want to rethink what your country is. You’re assuming too much about the legal and democratic systems remaining. You’re assuming the military won’t just follow orders, and you’re assuming the media and the cultists won’t just fall into lockstep. You need to fundamentally re-evaluate, and quickly.
You may want to figure it out considering where your country is headed.
You don’t read the comments you respond to? Like I said, my country doesn’t have those problems.
There are many ways to get a drone to fly autonomously over a short mission.
Again, simplifying and not specifying who should have one. You think every person everywhere should have a 247 drone buddy filming them?
Show me how an average person can use just 50$ to have a constant 247 4k filming surveillance drone on them. Link a product then.
Your country is not what you think it is.
No, my country isn’t what you think it is, you donkey. Literally. I already told you you’re assuming wrong and you just go right ahead and double down on your mistake. sigh
If you’re saying you’re not American, it wasn’t obvious from the context.
By the way the drone is not for surveillance. It came up in the context of guns, so I would think it were obvious what drone usage was intended. I’ll not go into it here, but if you want a hint look up the state of the modern battlefield in Ukraine. Guns are almost irrelevant.
Frankly having a signal jammer and a cheap tethered drone is all you need to solve problems even a gun can’t solve. Oh, and joining an improv group, if you know what I mean.
If you’re saying you’re not American, it wasn’t obvious from the context.
And nothing I said even remotely implied I am American, yet you just decided to assume that. Why, pray tell?
I would think it were obvious
What did we talk about assumptions? How are we supposed to read your mind about these hare-brained implications you keep throwing out, but refuse to actually specify?
Are you now suggesting eveyone should constantly have a tethered drone with 4k cameras, which operates autonomously btw, and has like a payload of explosives. And this you say can be acquired by anyone with 50 dollars.
And you wonder why people are weirded out?
the US or perhaps the world needs a reboot button
Fallout TV series is mostly about that. Reboot buttons just incentize wealthy gamblers.
Nuke everywhere from space.
Anarcho-Posadist praxis
The Red Coats should march back in and press reset.
That’s fine, dude. I’m not mad at you,
Famous last words…
The words of someone trying not to get shot be overly aggressive masked and armed thugs.
And even that didn’t work. Maybe they weren’t afraid enough to live
This would have been true sooner than this point in the regime but this event is the flashpoint, if I find out that any of my relatives or family members are ICE thugs I would dox them in a heartbeat.
I wonder why we still don’t have the footage from Good’s wife.
I think she feels guilty for egging them on and probably feels responsible to a degree. Also, probably listening to her lawyer about when / if to release it.
Also, probably listening to her lawyer about when / if to release it.
I’d suggest it’s entirely that.
Yeah if I were in her shoes I’d save the footage for court. Don’t want the court of public opinion influencing jurors ahead of time.
That is of course assuming he gets charged as he should.
Even if there was 4k 360° video of Renee being murdered by this scum the Trump administration would still side with the murderer.
An incident like this is great for MAGA. This is how you find who is truly loyal. The loyal ones will back your cockamamie story to the hilt, and parrot it loudly, often, and with conviction, no matter how indefensible it is.
This separates out those who still have some vestige of morals that can still be reached by an atrocity. Those people are untrustworthy, and must be purged. They want people who will cheer when they massacre peaceful protesters.
Exactly right. I work with a bunch of ride or die maga dick riders and it’s been interesting seeing them over the last year. When the Epstein cover up started last year they all got really quiet and stopped talking about Trump for a good part of the summer and ends of the year. Then he bombed Venezuela and then Renee getting murdered has got them all foaming at the mouth for violence and killing now.
Then you should ask them about Taco’s best friend Epstein at every opportunity.
I have from time to time and they all say the same thing. “It’s all fake and a democrat hoax!” They are perfectly brainwashed cult members.
“FUCK YEAH! THIS is what I signed up for!”
That’s pretty much what they said the day after the Venezuela attack. Another thing they like to say now is how we are all gonna be rich because of the cheap gas prices.
You should ask them about the peace prize and how he was going to supposedly be the peace president.
I don’t really get how the conservatives that supposedly lost it over W and Iraq, but came back for Taco because “war bad” (yeah right) can keep all that cognitive dissonance straight?
The fact is that W’s big failings on: the economy AND Katrina AND Iraq made them feel bad because liberals were getting proven RIGHT. They needed a brief timeout, pretended to be for the made-up astroturfed “teabagger” movement (later rebranded the “tea party” when they realized everyone else knew what teabagging meant, and it made them look gay, not like they were some alpha males getting one over on Obama) and there were a lot of very sudden “independents” among us. So they did that brief timeout thing, then came roaring back and went ballz deep on being a Republican when Taco gave them a permission structure to escape their culpability for all of W’s failings AND a permission structure to be openly racist, misogynist, etc…I don’t think they really give a shit about wars of aggression being stupid and a drain on our society, nevermind morally objectionable, they just hated that the liberals were all proven correct about Iraq.
They still call Donny the peace president and that he brought peace to the Middle East and he is saving America. It’s hard to have an opposing view when it’s just me vs 9 other people at my job. Most of the time I just listen to them and laugh to myself.
It’s those types of situations where I put on my “just asking questions” mode, LOL. Stuff like “how does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be invading cities and states of America, using ICE? How does it count as ‘peaceful’ to be sending in people to kidnap another country’s leader? What would we do if another country did it to us? Donnie says he be glad to accept the Nobel Peace Prize from the winner of that prize, is that how prizes even work? Or is that just Donnie’s participation trophy? In what other case has anything like that ever happened, and the second-hand recipient of a prize ever considered a legitimate owner of that prize?”
It absolutely drives them nuts, especially if they expect to get a rise out of you. I don’t get mad, I don’t raise my voice. I don’t lecture or finger-wag. I just ask more questions; turn their answer around on them, ask them how that makes them feel, how they arrived at that line of thinking, how they personally think any of Taco’s worst behaviors and policies will benefit them as individuals in their everyday real, non-online lives, etc.
I do it mostly to plant seeds, though. People tend to just dig in more if you get oppositional. If you ask questions, and don’t get angry, it definitely changes the energy.
Here in Central Florida, the gas price pattern has been consistent for at least two years. It will drop down to about $2.90, maybe even a bit lower, and then on Monday or Tuesday, it will go up to $3.19 in nearly every single gas station in the area. Then it starts to slide down, and when it gets to around $2.90, it jumps back up to $3.19. Every time, for a few years now. Clearly, the prices are totally fixed.
But lately, since affordability has become the most serious drain on MAGA chances in the Midterms, gas prices have been lower. I just returned from a trip over the Holidays, and has is down to $2.70, or even lower.
Obviously, DeSantis is doing his part by forcing gas prices lower somehow, but rather than give him credit for helping out, that begs the question: If they could have lowered prices, why didn’t they do it before it started to get them into trouble?
Immediately after the Vemzuelan attack, gas companies said that instability in the oil market was going to cause high prices (which happens anytime a dolphin sneezes near an offshore oil rig), and usually that means the very next fucking day. I expected prices to leap to at least $3.50, but they didn’t.
Obviously, they are manipulating the gas prices, to fight the affordability issue. To counter that, I’d like to remind everyone that the average price of a new car is now over $50,000, with a monthly payment over $750. They are now offering 8 year loan terms.
BTW, cars have now become a viable, and acceptable living option. I just read about a college that is building a parking garage for student living in their cars. They could have built a residence hall for them, but better to teach college students that living in your car is a good career strategy, along with taking out tens of thousands in student loans for an education that won’t lead to a single job.
What were we talking about?
Oregon gas dropped below 3$ in some places for the first time in a long while. Oversupply is lowering prices, tightening things for domestic oil producers https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/consumers-love-cheap-gas-but-the-oil-patch-will-pay-the-price/ar-AA1TMcpu
This is the point. They don’t care.
The goal of releasing the video wasn’t to prove the NKVD agent was innocent, it was to prove that the victim was a white liberal lgbt urban woman and thus deserving of death.
Wait, he recorded himself killing someone?
He needed something for show and tell before applesauce and naptime.
Yeah it was his kid’s “career fair” day at school so he wanted something representative to show to the class
What? No still beating heart? That is seriously low effort parenting.
Yeah he even pulled out his gun and used it one handed
And this guy apparently does fire arms training. God help anyone getting lessons from this ass hat at the range.
Yep, and he didn’t even drop his phone doing it.
I never lose grip of my phone, especially not when I’m so feared for my life that I’d take out my gun to kill someone driving away from me.
Kinda…
