Basically what I mean is, did you also come here from reddit?
I came here after I got my Reddit account banned permanently. And the thing is, I don’t exactly know why I got banned. Nor what I did wrong. I always tried to follow the rules, post and comment appropriately and nicely, but on New Year’s Day last week, I got a message simply saying "Your account have been permanently banned for violating the rules.
But when I replied asking what rule or rules I unknowingly broke, they just messaged me back saying “you got banned because you violated the community guidelines”. So now I’m here.
What about you? Are you also a Reddit Refugee?
I voluntarily quit Reddit when the API fuckery happened. Deleted all of my posts, comments, etc. after 16 years, and millions of useless points. I don’t and never will give a fuck. Also a refugee from Digg before that, Fark, /. etc. I’m pretty happy with the fediverse so far, and will likely stand up my own server(s) in the next year or so.
Oh, you want a story? I’ll give you a story.
I was banned for using a MVNO while on holidays. A MVNO (mobile virtual network operator - aka a phone company) often has changing IP endpoints.
I was in Japan (using Rakuten) which has dynamic endpoints in Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore. To the reddit bots, that seems like someone stealing or spoofing your account.
Reddit flagged my account and forced password change to confirm identity “for my safety”. I complied. They then silently shadow banned my account after I did so. Like, immediately.
I followed the appeals process (such as it is - basically howling at the moon). I provided logs, GPS co-ords and even details of my flights / boarding passes.
Auto mod replied “lol, get fucked”. (Its an auto mod, BTW. Their entire appeal process.Very easy tell).
OK then.
I then used their takeout service to at least grab my old posts, which have some niche technical know how that is worth preserving.
In the course of that, I notice reddit has set up their system in such a way that unknowingly (?) breeches GDPR rules and privacy laws.
Well, well, well…
At this point, I’m stunned at what a cluster fuck reddit really is. Like…wtf?
I then emailed them directly and basically said “listen.I know the laws that govern this. You have 48hrs to email me XYZ or I escalate”
A few days later, Reddit legal emails me saying “hi…we’re not sure what your complaint is. Please clarify”.
So I do - with forensic level detail. Politely. Professionally.
No response.
I send a follow up email a week later saying “look, one way or another this issue needs to be resolved and my complaint answered. I’ll give you 3 days. If its still radio silence, I escalate”.
I fly home yesterday (a full 7 days after the fact). Still radio silence.
Perfect! Today I launch GDPR and OIAC complaint, with full evidence trail, screenshots, logs - the whole works. Takes me 5 minutes.
Will that get me unbanned? Don’t know, don’t care.
Will it cost reddit time and money? Very likely yes.
For those not in the know, breech of GDPR and OIAC laws carry pretty significant penalties for the service provider (to the tune of several million pounds)…and reddit is registered in a EU country. Oops.
The moral of the story (if there is one) is this:
Reddit is rented land. Lemmy is too…but at least with Lemmy, if you really wanted to, you could set up your own instance, with n=1 users and turn off new sign ups, effectively creating a sovereign, unbannable island, where you actually own what you post.
I suppose I should thank Reddit, really. This is the second account in as many years they killed like this, for this very reason.
I was going to set up my own homelab anyway: this just pushed me to do it faster and create a telecoms stack to replace cloud based social media services.
What gals me the most is I spent a fair bit of effort rebuilding my fake internet points over the course of 3 months, to satisfy their “yo, is this a human?” algo…all the while watching bots and stolen accounts spam and flourish.
TL;DR: fuck reddit. You owe them nothing - not your knowledge, time or efforts. Let it enshittify.
Meanwhile, Reddit: I hope your lawyers cost $5k/hr.
… Every single person on Lemmy is a Reddit refugee. You’re not going to find a single person here who has not used Reddit before.
Yeah, same here
Fuck spez.
I agree with you on this
Me too!
Truth is, regardless of how fucked that platform is, I still resent being banned and the insane extent to which they prevent you returning. The use of throwaways was entirely normal back in the day, now it’s called ‘ban evasion’. It’s nearly impossible (or at least super-tedious) to get back on once they kick you off. It just seems like such an extreme over-reaction. Permanent bans are insane. I’ve seen people get barred from pubs after drunken violence, but that’s usually only for a year or so. This is basically forever.
I was on there for over a decade and posted in multiple communities all the time. Had a load of karma and rarely got into any aggressive arguments. Then one day I upset a mod for complaining about a removed post, that apparently contravened some petty rule. I’m banned from the sub. I use another account, they found out it was me I’m permanently banned. 12 years of contribution just forgotten, all because of some vindictive little basement dwelling prick.
Same here. Permanently banned from all of Reddit, and I was never told why. I suspect it was my criticism of the Orange One. I appeal every day, just to give them a little more paperwork.
Yeah, I’m banned from Reddit too
I came here and leave Reddit forever because I am trying to use less US products and services. Right now I don’t know how to bypass Microsoft and Google. Everything else is easy (like forgetting about Reddit or not drinking Coca Cola).
If you can afford and are not relying on games get a mac. I mean it’s still US but it is soooo much better and less enshitticated than windows. Regarding Google you can switch to a European cloud use duckduckgo or stuff for search, there are plenty foss alternatives to maps and for YouTube you can check out grayjay. It’s a bit tedious but it’s possible and as convenient as big tech products
Mac is a US product too :)
It’s also really nice not to have a continuous doom scroll. You can really only go for like an hour on the front page here until the places start becoming really esoteric. I’m which case not interesting or very interesting. But it’s not active enough to provide you with a whole day of gloom. And I kinda like that.
I’m also here from the API thing. This scratches the itch for me and that’s more than enough in this day and age.
I got banned for low key implying there’s a genocide going on in Gaza.
Not even stating it.
Just implying it.
“antisemitism, permaban”
That was in 2023 iirc
one of my accounts got banned for offering an explanation of somebody else’s thought process. I was “advocating violence” or some shit like that, apparently
because I offered my best take at what might have been going through this person’s head for why they took a particular action.
mods & admins are all dumb cunts. not my subs, though, my mods were cool, obviously
because I offered my best take at what might have been going through this person’s head
Empathy…?

Dozens of us!
They killed 3rd party apps, I didn’t wanna use their app, so I switched to something else and that something else happened to be Lemmy. Turns out, Lemmy is even better than Reddit in many ways.
Exactly the same for me. As soon as RIF was done, I was done.
They killed 3rd party apps. I left when my app stopped working and lemmy conveniently worked with some of the same clients that reddit was breaking.
When Reddit killed Apollo, I no longer had the means to use Reddit— I’d rather not have Reddit than use the Reddit app.
Unlike so many people here, I have nothing against centralized social media, and I actively miss it— I miss having a large user base to talk with, I GREATLY miss all the specialize niche communities I followed. But it’s not good if I can’t access them.
Yes, the centralized nature of Reddit means that one person can fuck up the entire community… but decentralization means I have no one to talk to about the things I want to.
Anyway. I’m here hoping that enough people will eventually join that I can have MY Reddit back. I’m frustrated that the place is so tankie infested though, and fear that’s greatly holding it back.
Same deal here, it’s why I’m struggling so much to lean more heavily on Mastodon too. I just can’t figure it out, it constantly feels like I’m using it wrong Still not using Xitter, just Bluesky
I think the majority of Lemmy users are Reddit refugees, not because they got banned, but because of the Reddit API changes that forced 99% of the third party apps to shut down.
+1 RIP Apollo
Long live Voyager!
Practically a decade of Riddit is Fun…
The API change wasn’t it, it’s when it became clear to me they were selling all my data to Google. I frequented mental health subs, and I started getting Google ads for scams TARGETING people with mental health issues. Just sick.
the recent surges of refugees are from the multi-wave purges last year.
What is API?
Like ELI5 please
It’s a way for apps to interact with reddit. Reddit shut down the API for third party clients so that you’re forced to use their crappy official app instead of much nicer alternatives.
I used a different app to access Reddit and hence couldn’t use it anymore. The official app was a huge downgrade to what I was using before and full of ads. So I - like many others - just left Reddit for good.
the official app is more data mining, and intrusive too. thats probably one of the reason why reddit doesnt want it, because they cant sell your info to GOOGLE, or OPENAI and palintir.
to be precise: not exactly shut down, but made it really expensive
That’s like saying you can hack SSH/HTTPS just by calculating out the prime number, it just takes really long time (billion years).
Interface third party software uses to connect
If I have valuable info and I want to share it in a controlled way, I can use an API. If i am an airline, I could spit out a feed that tells you a list of flights and how delayed they are. If im Reddit, I can share posts, comments, etc.
Anyone (in the case of a free API) can take the data the API spits out and make their own app with it. But if you charge for API access, then someone would have to pay to make an app with your information.
Woah there boi, we prefer the name “Reddit Expats”, we no simple refugees or immigrants
Unless this is your job and you’re planning to go back to reddit, we’re not expats.
Or is this a dog whistle?
not because they got banned
Nah, that’s always been a sizable chunk. Fediverse will always have the worst of the worst, because it’s the easiest to evade bans. And yet there’s still multiple people who constantly get accounts banned for ban evasion.
Naw the worst go to bsky or threads, that’s where the evil shit is acceptable.
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I quit the big R when they killed third party apps.
Would have paid them a monthly fee to use my app,but the way they killed them really soured me on Reddit. Burned my account, and moved on
Banning third party apps was the symptom. The root cause was Reddit going public. The lust for cash ruined Reddit for a lot of people.
Same (I wouldn’t have paid Reddit, but I did donate to boost), but this comment was funny because “The Big R” is what my friend and I call Roblox.
Another one here for the API exodus 👍
















