To my reading, it looks like he is correcting the implication that his lawsuit is about abolishing ICE rather than getting ICE out of his city, and he spoke hanfistedly in light of his audience. A bit dumb but he seems to have conducted himself well and the overall message that his lawsuit isn’t what Fox has been claiming it is comes through very clearly.
Jenkins asked Frey whether he supports abolishing ICE in their interview, which will air in full on Wednesday at 8 a.m. EST.
“I do not support abolishing ICE,” Frey said. “However, I absolutely oppose the way that this administration is conducting themselves with ICE. Look, there are a number of entities presently, agencies at the federal government that are–"
Why are we taking things said by people on our side while on a literal fascist propaganda network at face value (is it reasonable if pointless for them to go on fox, maybe? They are the largest “news” group in the US and we do need to reach their viewers, even if it’s just one or two it does matter)
“I don’t support abolishing the Gestapo, I just wish they would conduct themselves better”
Focusing on how the aesthetics of the harm is perceived, instead of having issue with the fundamental harm, is not left or progressive in any capacity. It’s the same bullshit as liberal Zionism, just the US version.
That isn’t the aesthetics of the harm being perceived as the criticism though, that’s direct criticism of the harm and the methods used to do it.
If he doesn’t support abolishing the Gestapo, he doesn’t have much issue with the harm they cause when it isn’t on the front page.
ICE is a fascist organization, he doesn’t support getting rid of it, he only supports toning the violence down a notch. Otherwise, he would support abolishing ICE
If he doesn’t vocally support it on a fascist propaganda network, then clearly there’s no hope?
ICE is a fascist organization, he doesn’t support getting rid of it, he only supports toning the violence down a notch. Otherwise, he would support abolishing ICE
You don’t actually have evidence that this accurately represents his position - and let me remind you that the only evidence you do have is an out of context quote from Fox News that you are using to condemn someone. You’re just reacting to someone who, in the representation that once again was provided by FOX NEWS, does not meet your standards for what constitutes being progressive.
From the interview
Jenkins asked Frey whether he supports abolishing ICE in their interview, which will air in full on Wednesday at 8 a.m. EST.
“I do not support abolishing ICE,” Frey said. “However, I absolutely oppose the way that this administration is conducting themselves with ICE. Look, there are a number of entities presently, agencies at the federal government that are—”
“But isn’t that what your lawsuit is about, stopping ICE right now?” Jenkins interrupted.
“No, you should read the lawsuit,” Frey said. “The lawsuit says that, hey, you know — ICE doing ICE stuff is not what we’re talking about right now. Again, we’ve had ICE in our city before, we’ve had ICE in our state before. It is the fact that, look, right now, there are, there’s about 3,000 federal ICE agents in our city between ICE and Border Patrol. You know how many police officers that we have? 600. The kind of duress that our city is experiencing because of this is magnified.”
He explicitly says he does not support abolishing ICE. If you can find any evidence that this that isn’t his position, please share. I haven’t been able to find any.
From what I can find, it seems like his issues with ICE is that they aren’t doing the ethnic cleansing campaigns the legal way, and are causing too much unrest with their show of force. But maybe I missed something
Seems like he doesn’t have a problem with how ICE has operated in Minneapolis in the past, but only now, because there’s been enough public pushback
Yeah I’m not seeing much point in continuing this conversation, you’re almost aggressively not engaging with my point.
What point? You said that the quote was out of context and not representative of his actual views. You didn’t provide anything to support that point. I looked for any more context and found none. I found nothing to indicate this his actual view is contrary to his statements.
Because tankies
Wait you think I’m a tankie? Or is that what you call anybody who hates the state of America right now?
To my reading, it looks like he is correcting the implication that his lawsuit is about abolishing ICE rather than getting ICE out of his city
So nimbyism
What’s with this waffle vs. pancake sentiment? “Get out of my house, I don’t want you here” is not "Get out of my house and go to someone else’s instead".
“get out of my house but continue doing what you do” is the latter.
Again, that’s not what’s happening here. That’s a whole new concept.
Frey was the boomer white person choice for the Minneapolis election. And of course, people on the left chose perfect over progress and didn’t use ranked voting when they should have. That’s how we got Frey again.
If the left could just unite, one fucking time that would be great.
Since there is some kind of immigration enforcement that needs to exist he probably wants to reform ICE, which sounds reasonable unless one knows how much institutional resistance there is to any kind of positive reforms.
ICE does need to be scrapped completely and replaced with a new agency that has a clear purpose that isn’t harassing immigrants, just enforcing judge’s decisions.
We already had that, it’s not like the US was open-borders before 9/11. ICE has always been exclusively a tool of oppression.
Fucking coward
This is why I emphasize calling them Blue Nazis/Fascists, because they have the same populous views, just in their flavor.
Nazis are nazis, no matter the style or uniform they wear.Controlled opposition. They’re meant to convince us there’s someone out there on our side.
🤝🤝🤝🔗
Here’s me critically askŋ’em a COINTEL Q.
Here’s ᚦr nasty robot army.Once again Anti, it’s not that there’s a conspiracy to downvote you, it’s that what you say so often is just… unintelligible. Like in this comment, or the one you linked to - what are you talking about??
In my experience the only people that use emojis like that are either Bots or trolls.
Sadly I’m convinced they’re neither, they’re just… really like that.
what you say so often is just… unintelligible
Then help me out correct one of my late learned languages?
You are aware downvotes mean “not worth reading”? Usage as “I disagree” when piefed finally has reactions, is just silly.
You can also react with 🙅 to disengage.
Do you want to discuss here or in it’s proper thread how cameras are authoritarian tools?
Cause this thread is counter-counter intelligence tactics.
… Dude, you linked to a short on “homie handshakes”.
The issue isn’t with your english, it’s that you’re writing aggressive comments like this about stuff that makes little to no sense. I don’t care that your english sucks, I care that what I can parse of your political opinions are either dismissive of everything while being aggressively uninformed nonsense or just straight up misinformation (hey look that’s not what the downvote page says at all), and that you yourself are constantly whining about how you’re being persecuted for your beliefs instead of understanding that it’s simply a common response to obnoxious behavior like youre.
That’s a reaction to my comrade above you, agreeing 🇺🇲Democrats are controlled opposition. That’s a millennial-Gen α form of expression. Similar to smileys you maybe used to or not (:-))
aggressive comments
I barely make‘m. And when I do, they are warranted.
dismissive of everything while being aggressively uninformed nonsense or just straight up misinformation
Then express what you feel those are when interacting with me, on the topics you did read these feelings came about. Some have rhetorical purpose, some are critical of discussion developing. This account is political, and it is meant to be read with political intent.
whining about how you’re being persecuted
Have you not seen folks spam me before or something?
common response
We disagree on what does are, since you haven’t lived my experiences to know what are my curses of knowledge, nor me yours. “Common beliefs” are myths. And the faster you remove that bias, the better conversationalist you’ll be.
