• TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1822·
    11 days ago

    If I lived in CA, I’d vote for this. But, also, California could easily make it as its own country.

        • Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zipEnglish
          32·
          11 days ago

          I’m not even on your coast – LITERALLY the other side of the continent in New England – and i am rooting for you SO FUCKING HARD

          GLORY TO CASCADIA!

          I wish New England would secede get bought by Denmark too…

          • btsax@reddthat.comEnglish
            11·
            11 days ago

            I always wanted New England to join Canada and be part of the Maritimes so that the time zone would make more sense. And so New Englanders could get healthcare that wasn’t tied to employment

          • TheDoozer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            11 days ago

            I kind of wonder if Cascadia could be peacefully done. I mean, most Republicans despise California, and have no love for Oregon or Washington. I wonder if there would be a peaceful way for them to be like “hey, we’re just going to separate off. We’ll set up really good trade relations at the start, and have fairly open immigration policy between our countries (to let the more left leaning in, and the more… diplomatically, let’s say right-leaning out) for a few years.” Then each fucks off their own way, Colorado laments it’s position in a sea of deep red (sorry y’all), and Cascadia can write a new constitution that doesn’t suck donkey balls and allow for the worst loopholes and lack of enforcement.

            Edit: and the official song could be Cascada’s “Evacuate the Dance Floor Red States.”

          • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            We’ll set up the GoFundMe for Denmark to buy California, but only on condition that any leftover go toward this coast. We’ll be a colony or territory off Denmark!

        • tomiant@piefed.socialEnglish
          19·
          11 days ago

          Meanwhile Taiwan and the South China Sea goes bye bye, and Russia takes the Baltics.

          A new world order. Woo.

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            8·
            11 days ago

            A new world order. Woo

            This, but not sarcastically.

            The current world order sucks big floppy donkey dick.

            Not saying that I would want the specific one YOU’RE imagining, but this one has been rotten since its inception. As was the previous one ever since Thatcher, Reagan, and Bananarama established it.

      • tomiant@piefed.socialEnglish
        112·
        11 days ago

        The problem is, so would the fascists, because they think they would win the ensuing civil war, which is a pretty solid bet as long as they are in charge of the military, which they are, and they will stay in charge until they force the civil war that they believe they will win. We are watching it happen in real time. They aren’t even waiting for those “catalyzing events” that they are priming for, because they’re behind schedule, so they are going to just go ahead anyway. Look, nobody is doing shit about it anyway, and if they did- well yhere you go, martial law and suspended elections straight away.

        The military will do as they are told by the chain of command. Who’s in command is dictated by a deeply flawed system that only ever pretended to be democratic. These were always the inevitable distal results. Call me doomey. Watch the world and see the facts and call me doomey.

        We are not dealing with geniuses here. It’s pretty obvious what they planned. It’s like watching the evil guys in a dumb marvel movie. It’s really not that complicated.

        Prophecy over.

        • nickiwest@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          10 days ago

          Who’s in command is dictated by a deeply flawed system that only ever pretended to be democratic.

          You’re right. The founding fathers did not intend to create a democracy. They created a republic with elected leaders who were chosen exclusively by wealthy, educated white men.

          We certainly can’t fault them for not foreseeing how much American society – and the electorate – would change and how little the Constitution would change.

          I truly believe that if they had any inkling how little we would change the Constitution in 250 years, they would have written a whole article requiring a Constitutional Convention every 25 or 50 years.

        • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 days ago

          they think they would win the ensuing civil war, which is a pretty solid bet as long as they are in charge of the military,

          Not so fast. We’re in charge of the military’s technology, not r enough of it to make a difference. Let them come but they may be surprised at what they end up targeting

    • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
      23·
      11 days ago

      The problem California would have as its own country would be defending the massive border it has with the failed state next door.

      • Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        5·
        11 days ago

        I’m sure someone will come in and tell me why this is a dumb idea, which is why I’m asking…

        But why wouldn’t nuclear power plants and desalination plants render water issues a thing of the past?

        Is it no other reason than the hurdles of nuclear boogeymen?

      • nickiwest@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 days ago

        Only if the proposal gets enough signatures.

        The proponent of the measure, Marcus Evans, must collect signatures of 546,651 registered voters (five percent of the total votes cast for Governor in the November 2022 general election) in order for the measure to become eligible for the ballot. The proponent has 180 days to circulate petitions for the measure, meaning the signatures must be submitted to county elections officials no later than July 22, 2025.

        Contact info for Marcus Evans is in the link you posted. If you’re in California, ask him how you can add your name to the petition.

  • Kalon@feddit.onlineEnglish
    931·
    11 days ago

    With all the right-wing memes I’ve seen in the past, I’d think they would be happy to see it go.

    at least until they realize how much California and other “blue” states fund their “red” states.

    • krashmo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      59·
      11 days ago

      Republican voters don’t learn lessons from experience. That’s why they’re Republican voters.

    • MJKee9@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      11 days ago

      They would be invading California to steal their resources and labor… Faster than JD Vance can fuck a couch.

    • favoredponcho@lemmy.zipEnglish
      12·
      11 days ago

      We really need to cut off the red states. They’re a bunch of whiny shits who leech off the blue states and then make our politics toxic.

    • nickiwest@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      It would be interesting to see the major blue states go on a tax strike.

      They could send their tax revenue to escrow instead of to the US government for a while. It would be good for the red states with mostly rural voters to fuck around and find out how much they need the blue states with big cities to support their way of life … while the results can still be reversed with those escrow funds.

  • portifornia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    44·
    11 days ago

    For the price of California (one dollar might be an agreeable option), I’m sure the people of the west coast would gladly throw in an Oregon & Washington for free!

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.mlEnglish
    43·
    11 days ago

    Please, Prime Minister Fredricksen. My people yearn for freedom. We will welcome you as liberators.

    • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
      11·
      11 days ago

      Realistically? Never.

      California is literally almost 10x the size and 7x the population of Denmark. And just the logistics of having to manage a dependency this large that’s at least a 12 hour flight away would be a nightmare, both economic and organizational.

      This would likely be one of the biggest dogs any tail has ever attempted to wag (certainly in modern times) besides the British rule of India, perhaps, and we all know how that turned out.

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        12·
        11 days ago

        You can be like Greenland and have autonomy. I think Denmark would be fine with a similar arrangement.

        • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
          2·
          11 days ago

          The problem is that Denmark would be responsible for defending it, and logistically, that would be a nightmare. There is basically no efficient way to ship an army there without crossing US-controlled territory, be it via land (impossible), sea (US took back control of the Panama canal, remember?), or air (minimum 12 hour nonstop flight, and that’s only if you’re crossing US airspace).

          On top of that, Denmark only has 6 Million people, so even if they shipped literally all of their soldiers there it probably wouldn’t be enough to realistically hold it against a US invasion. Trump could simply order the US military to take it back and they’d likely finish the job in less than a week. Sure, Denmark could draw from the local population and invest in massive military training programs, but that would take years to accomplish and likely cost a good chunk of even their combined GDP (which they’ve already pledged to universal healthcare and a free Danish cookies).

          • Lodespawn@aussie.zoneEnglish
            2·
            11 days ago

            Once polar ice caps melt they can just go north and sail straight through the bering strait, easy peasy, even easier if Alaska comes for the ride /s

          • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            There’s that freight rail Canada wants to build, from the west coast to Hudson Bay for cheap shipping to and from Europe

            • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
              1·
              11 days ago

              Florida would certainly be a lot more realistic (shorter land border, much easier to reach by sea and air without having to cross US territory). Still 4x the size of Denmark however. Would definitely be a stretch, although not quite as huge as California.

              • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                10 days ago

                Florida is tiny …… or the part above water will be after a few more years of “drill baby drill”

      • Aeao@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        11 days ago

        I thought that India thing was going well. I’ve been reading news papers in order of date from the first one so I’m current on June 23rd 1757. Let’s just have a look-see

        Oh… my god…

    • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      11 days ago

      Unlikely. California has a number of national labs including Lawrence Livermore National Lab which does atom bomb work. The University of California system does at least some of the administration for at least two major weapons labs (LLNL and Los Alamos).

  • jam12705@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    11 days ago

    Everyone here going on about “take us too” and not one comment on how the Danes are going to logistically supply Danish Pastries to California without impacting their economy. Crips you’d have to float them through the Panama Canal. They’d be stale before they hit port. /s

    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      11 days ago

      We have a Dantown already. We just need to expand their production capacity, also theres a company in Colton who produces these little calzone looking pies that are so fucking good and have been 99 cents for fucking decades.

      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 days ago

        Däntown, my friend. Also I go by Colton every so often and I fuckin love calzones would you mind DMing me the name of the company?

        • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          10 days ago

          They aren’t really calzones just don’t know the name of them besides pies. You can usually find them at Staters around the Inland Empire, at the one I go to it’s in the back right corner on a little rotation rack.

          Edit: They tend to be in paper wrappers, with basic flavors like chocolate pudding, vanilla pudding, cherry filled, think I’ve even seen orange ones on occasion.

          Edit2: the brand is called Mrs. Redds.

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.caEnglish
    28·
    11 days ago

    Canada should do this to ancquire Alaska too.

    there’s no good reason it’s not part of Canada. It’s not even the US’s land.

    • tomiant@piefed.socialEnglish
      18·
      11 days ago

      It lies directly next to Canada, it’s not even connected to the USA. Psychologically, Canada needs it.

      • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 days ago

        Canada can invade New England to balance out those Trumpies. I already have my maple syrup ration plus smuggled in some Tim’s

  • Zink@programming.devEnglish
    24·
    11 days ago

    Ok so instead of breaking the US up into the United states of Canada and Jesusland, I am totally cool with something like The Green States of America Land.

    We could be a good neighbor to Canada and slowly transition Jesusland off of all the welfare money.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      11 days ago

      slowly transition Jesusland off of all the welfare money

      Jesusland is exceedingly ungrateful for the generosity of California. (and New York.)

      • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 days ago

        Just build all our factories there (like we already do). They’ll think they’re getting good jobs, but we’ll be paying third world wages and with none of those pesky worker safety or environmental protection rules. Let them live in the polluted hellscape they keep voting for