Lately I’ve been noticing that the people who mainly should not have children, whether due to economic limitations, illnesses, or even mental instability, are the ones who have the most children, and many times they end up as single fathers/mothers. My question is whether it would be a good idea to implement some kind of regulation and set minimum requirements that must be met, mainly to prevent the child from ending up in the future as a criminal or a social burden due to those factors.
Authoritarianism is bad, m’kay
The people doing the most damage to the world are billionaires who have access to power that the rest of us can hardly imagine, so we could talk about what it would look like to interrupt the cycle by not allowing them to reproduce and separating them from any existing children so over the long term other families have an opportunity to rise to the top (and maybe society would level out a bit in the process). If greed has a genetic component, this would also apply selective pressure against genes for greed.
What do you think OP, start with the billionaires?
Hello Lemmy user Big French Bread AT Men Going Their Own Way Lemmy DOT Org, I think you might be doing a eugenics here. Maybe you should not do a eugenics in the future. We’ve made the discovery several times that it is Bad for Many Reasons, and thus should not be done.
Did somebody just discover eugenics?
No, the government cannot be trusted with that power. It will be abused, it has been abused, it has been abused by governments within the past couple decades: involuntary sterilization of First Nations women in Canada, for example.
Everyone who is saying “I’d agree with it in theory” is not thinking about the practical reality of what that’d mean. If you actually want to enforce that, the only way to do it is with violence. Dragging kids away from their parents, physically beating the parents away, parents shooting law enforcement officers to try to keep them away from their kids, forcible sterilizations, children born who are never allowed to go to schools or hospitals out of fear that they’ll be found, etc. It’s just needlessly cruel. It’s a lot worse than accepting that human beings are not perfect.
- Fuck Eugenics
- Fuck the CCP, They had no fucking right to decide if I was allowed to be born, who the fuck do they think they are? My mother was the only person that had the right to decide, and she chose me over the stupid One Child Policy, so yea, fuck you CCP.
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Ahhhh incel instance… figured
Oh wow…mgtow has it’s own Lemmy instance‽ I must say that was unexpected.
The incel freaks are unfortunately everywhere, especially now that they’ve been emboldened by the current political climate.
So eugenics?
No.
illnesses
That sounds an awful lot like eugenics…
minimum requirements
Like what? White, middle class, heterosexual…?
You know this will essentially be taking human rights away from the most marginalised people?
Are we seriously trying to normalise eugenics now? This is the second post I’ve seen doing so in like a week
How would you enforce this? Most likely murder whether or not it is a pre or post birth abortion
I’m not trying to normalize anything, I’m just asking for the opinion of other people about this, I was just thinking about it recently but there are no hidden intentions here.
Your instance and post history says otherwise.
Their downvote ratio keeps going up with every post, too ☣️
Ok genius tell me what my hidden intentions are, and why my instance has something to do with it? I’m trying to get opinions from other people on Lemmy not to do whatever you feel I’m doing. Duh… you are weird.
trying to get opinions from other people on Lemmy
Basically the “just asking questions” classic. mgtow is right wing bullshit, and it always has been. Your comment right before you made this post was on this topic, except you just outright said that stupidity was in people’s genes. You’re “just asking questions” about eugenics and then calling people weird, all while being on the mgtow instance. I might be weird, but at least I’m not on the mgtow instance with all the other right wing incel freaks that can’t get laid.
Also, look at the rest of your comment history. It takes no genius to see through your BS.
Read a comment from OP that sounds like Nazi eugenics shit. Check their profile and this is their most recent post. Yikes. No OP. Please direct your frustration for not having sex elsewhere.
I’d agree with this in theory, but the government can’t be trusted with defining those criterias.
Also this won’t ever happen while the world is thirsting for more children than are being born to feed the economy bubble’s demand for infinite growth in an era of population decline and gentrification across the developed world.
No. It might be in a politicians best interest to ensure a population stays dumb and then ensure those dumb people raise even dumber children.
But what about if these dumb people end up converting to communism and then burn everything down including politicians and the whole society?
- they might turn into communists, they might burn everything down
- Republicans in the US are already fascists, they are already burning everything down
Lol you complain about “communism” but do you know that these “communists” you supposedly hate literally did the Birth Control thing and Forced Abortions and Forced Sterilizations in China, and now they have a fertility and low population crisis, all because of the stupid One Child Policy, the “communists” you hate are literally the ones that “burn down society” and yet you are promoting government birth control policies on those same lines (but I assume with more right-wing aesthetics instead). Lmfao.
That’s kind of the point. You want the sheep to think they are burning down society for some do-good ideology while the politicians sidestep the government into a into dictatorship or other kind of single party authoritarian system. Regardless, the politicians of the new government will be just fine.
I think that, to a certain extent, such a thing would actually benefit politicians: more cheap labor for industry. But eventually it would backfire on them, not so much because the population somehow became enlightened, but because social degradation would reach a breaking point that would lead to a widespread revolution, and given the intellectual characteristics of that population, there would be no way to rebuild again.
Plenty of examples of people burning down capitalism/mercantilism based societies too… It’s happening right now in the US.
Capitalism is not freedom, nor the devil. It’s just a tool. The same as communism or socialism. They each have their pros and cons.
Look at Canada, better healthcare because… Socialism. Cheaper more functional electrical companies because… Socialism. Then they use Capitalism for other industries that work just fine.
The economic system should really be set per-industry based on which one is likely to provide the best outcome.
As a broad overview, In my opinion, Communism should be used for land ownership, Socialism for core necessities, and Capitalism for luxuries.
Fuck no
eugenics lmao. i ain’t gonna read that.
A basic income would give poor people enough disposable income to afford birth control. Legal abortion well also go a long way in controlling how many children each family has.
Could we say that, indirectly, this scenario has already been set in motion?
