• Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    Rather than a front page obit wouldn’t it be great if Congress and Senate just did their job and legally removed him.

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      I concur. The fact that his death seems like the only way we will be rid of him is a bigger problem than trump.

      What about the next person who does all this. Like Vance ?

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        Vance does not have the cult leader credentials. If he pulled a “Let’s take Greenland” out of his ass, he wouldn’t have the same spell to keep 30% of approval.

        That’s why many authoritarian regimes fall after the death of the charismatic leader.

        And yes, the root cause of Trump appearing in the political scene go beyond himself and point towards structural problems of US society. But now he has this power, it’s a fact that his death will cause a great loss to the political power of the MAGA movement, and it’ll be very hard for any successor to keep this coalition in power, specially considering they’re already fighting among themselves.

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          Congress was envisioned to jealously guard their own power. They have been eager to abdicate their power and responsibility to the Executive to avoid political fallout (so that they can stay in office capitalizing off the position) for decades before Trump was on the scene.

          The Supreme Court has absolutely no legal oversight, and even publication of their corruption has not moved them to impose any code of ethics on themselves.

          The two parties both conspire to deliver us to the same monied interests, just with different flavors of icing on top.

          Trump is the culmination of the rot in the system, he is not the source of it. There is no realistic way for the system to go on, even if Trump keels over tomorrow. Regardless of if Vance can command the cult when Trump dies, the system must be greatly reformed/ overhauled.

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            “Charismatic leadership” is an expression often used in political theory to describe leaders who are able to agrue a personal following and use it for political gain, in a level unlike that of most politicians, to whom support is way more conditional.

            It’ doesn’t necessarily mean the same as “approachable” , or anything that “charismatic” usually is used to describe. It’s been used to describe figures as awful as Hitler or Mussolini.

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      Legal doesn’t matter when the secret service starts harassing people for saying things like “Trump should go to trial,” it’ll have the chilling effect it’s supposed to unless people fight back by saying things like “it’s not illegal to wish the President of the United States were dead.”

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      With a mortar!?? That would be funny as fuck! And I always wonder and think it requires skills to correctly handle a mortar.

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    > Claims to be the land of Free Speech and the First Amendment.

    > Can’t make jokes about assassinating the US President.

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    it’s funny, we know what you’re talking about. We can’t say what your talking about as that may involve a meeting with the SS if you are american.

  • DylanMc6 [any, any]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It’s NOT illegal to form an alternative government of the United States as a micronation with a distinct name, flag, anthem and coat of arms and such (and you can still pay taxes to the current US government and call that “aid”). Forming a micronation is NOT the same as being a sovereign citizen.

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      The problem is that you can’t form a micronation out of land that belongs to a nation already, unless that nation cedes it to you. Until that point, you are still subject to the laws of wherever you are.

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    Isn’t this what you guys have guns for?

    I hope people are organising at the very least.

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      Actually, no. Technically they have guns because their government didn’t want to pay for a standing army (they’ve still changed their mind, in case you didn’t follow US politics too closely).
      They’ve just been making innumerable wacky excuses since then to try and make us believe that having 35 rifles and 122 handguns was perfectly normal.

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    It’s nice to see that the “in minecraft” meme has evolved to not even mentioning what to do at all, that we all just know fairly well anyway.

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    I agree.

    The front page of every newspaper in the country has never so desperately needed an obituary on it.

    Now I know what you might be thinking: never? What about that one time in the 1940s? Not even then, because even if that fucker LIVED he was on the cusp of capture. He was no longer a threat even before his obituary showed up

    This time I have no faith or hope that the threat may actually be nullified at all otherwise.

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      That kind of situation is a nice demonstration that economic theories which rely on people acting logically (Smith, Marx, etc.) are not true. People are mostly driven by intangible factors like ideology, loyalty, and complacency.

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        It’s well known that SS protocol during an active shooter situation is to allow the presumed target to rise above all the bodies protecting him, while making a perfectly timed fist raised gesture directly to the camera that happened to snap the perfect shot of the ketchup packet bursting.

        Duh.

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            I swear, these are every bit as dumb as maga’s conspiracy theories. If that’s where they wanted the flag for the picture, why didn’t they just start with the flag there? Why lower it just in time? Was the Qanon flag lowering operator on the radio with the photographer coordinating the position and timing? Or, just maybe, big-ass flags that are suspended from cranes by only the top two corners just kind of move up and down in the wind.

            Do you really believe that the same stupid motherfuckers who ended up having a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping were capable of staging an assassination attempt where two other people actually died and the only gap in their performance was a ham-fisted flag maneuver for the photo op?

    • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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      Bad lifestyle will take care of trump. The guy has one foot in the grave already. It’s the billionaires backing him and Vance that need to be removed.