Many recent studies found coffee is healthy as fuck:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/9-reasons-why-the-right-amount-of-coffee-is-good-for-you

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2025/11/431036/coffee-safe-for-a-fib

https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/coffee-may-improve-gut-health/

Some folks think it means Starbucks is good. NOPE.

Starbucks isn’t coffee. It’s actually trash:

Real coffee is this:

Also:

  • Tea is also great and healthy. Tea is not addictive.

  • If you drink coffee, avoid it after 11:AM. Seriously.

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    Sooo much misinformation… In no particular order:

    • Starbucks is a brand, not any specific beverage or even type of drink. You sound like a boomer saying “a Nintendo”.
    • You don’t even try to give a reason for your arbitrary 11 AM cutoff time. Zero sources as well.
    • YSK is for facts, not biased opinions.
    • Almost every coffee shop that sells coffee also sells sweetened and frozen coffee drinks, with similar caloric/sugar content.
    • Your own link clarifies that the right amount of coffee is good for you, an important distinction.
    • Saying Starbucks is not coffee doesn’t make sense, but it’s also blatantly false. Their coffee-based drinks are obviously made with “real coffee” and it’s easily provable. Just like every other coffee shop.
    • Concluding that tea is bad/good is also subjective and there’s no sources.
    • Saying a brand is trash is 100% opinion. Plenty of people don’t like them, but putting that in the post shows how your prejudiced opinion shouldn’t be listened to.
    • There’s no source for the cherry-picked drink contents.
    • Saying a brand is good or bad is (again) complete opinion, so a conclusion can’t be reached.
    • Opinions aren’t facts. My opinion is your post is shit.
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      I agree with everything except for this part:

      Almost every coffee shop that sells coffee also sells sweetened and frozen coffee drinks, with similar caloric/sugar content.

      You wouldn’t find another coffee shop in my city that sells anything comparable to the sugar-milk-coffee drinks from Starbucks. An affogato or caffè freddo probably has less than half the amount of sugar. They have pastries that dissolve your enamel within three bites though.

      But to reiterate, wrong community for this post.

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      The difference between medicine and poison is the dosage.

      • Your own link clarifies that the right amount of coffee is good for you, an important distinction.
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    Says “coffee is good but Starbucks is trash” while showing sugar-laden concoctions that can be served at most any chain coffee shop and plenty of indy shops will sell you whipped-cream-topped drinks aside from Starbucks, and not showing that you can indeed buy just a plain cup of coffee from Starbucks.

    I’m not saying anyone should support union-busting Starbucks, but this is a crap post to single out Starbucks.

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    Starbucks sells espresso and Americanos.

    No is is forcing you to go to Starbucks and buy a warm Dairy Queen sundae.

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    Everything here is false equivalency. Starbucks sells regular coffee, it looks just like your AI pics you include, and the calorie count is going to be quite low. Yes, sugary drinks are sugary. You can also get lattes without any syrup in them, and while you can certainly argue that Starbucks beans aren’t the best in the industry, their lattes are pretty similar to lattes at any coffee shop.

    This whole post is like “You shouldn’t go to McDonalds because they have a mcdouble cheeseburger with 1000 calories in it and you could make a salad at home.”

    Also, I’d like to acknowledge that this sub is called “You Should Know”, which to me implies it should be about important educational facts, not opinion pieces.

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      It also says to drink tea, tea is not addictive.

      Some tea contains caffeine, caffeine is addictive, so some teas are addictive.

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      I don’t like Starbucks, but Mackies have a very solid coffee here.
      Though nothing trumps even cheap beans and a little aeropress or a v60 at home.

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      Regular Starbucks coffee is vile, it’s only drinkable when you mask the flavour with junk.

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      This is why an irish coffee exists. It’s both before 11:00 somewhere and after 16:00 somewhere else.

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    If you drink coffee, avoid it after 11:AM. Seriously.

    Got it, don’t drink cappuccino after 11, only espresso.

    • Italians
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      I have a friend like this, not the time frame but his constant mantra of “I don’t drink coffee, but I have an espresso everyday”

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    You should know that there’s vested interest from massive drinks companies to push “caffeine is healthy” while selling caffeinated drinks with unhealthy levels of caffeine.

    All of the “a glass of redwine is healthy”-studies tuned out to be paid for by alcohol companies.

    We know how bad lobbying is.

    So don’t use this as an excuse to drink a half a gallon of energy drinks in the mornings and think it’s positive for your health.

    Ofc I’m not denying some moderate doses of drinks not filled with other shit could be healthy, I’m too lazy to go actually read the study right now.

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      Breaking news: caffeine is DRUGS people!

      This is not sarcasm; it is a psychoactive stimulant on par with coke and amphetamines. Your heart and kidneys do not know what drug schedules are.

      Enjoy your psychoactive drugs responsibly kids. And remember that enjoying responsibly =/= deluding yourself into thinking they’re healthy.

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        I agree.

        But I must point out US drug scheduling is political, not scientific.

        heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote.

        Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

        The only two actually more dangerous ones there are methaqualone and heroin. But you’d have to be kinda silly to say cannabis is schedule one and cocaine schedule two, that cannabis has “no accepted medical use”. And also strong opiates definitely have accepted medical use.

        War on drugs is bs.

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    Starbucks can eat a giant bag of dicks.

    But you can buy “just coffee” there and even though it tastes like it was filtered through my ass crack, it’s no different than other coffee.

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    Same for chocolate.

    Incorporating actual cocoa-dense dark chocolate into a regular part of my diet has been an absolute game changer. I have so much more energy and focus than I used to, I’m practically a morning person now lol

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      Seriously? In what amounts? I’m the opposite of a morning person, if the solution is this tasty simple, I’m game!

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    I don’t get the hate coffee gets. My favorite was being told by a coworker that my one 16oz cup of coffee a day (at work only) was going to kill me. Meanwhile he must have smoked at least half a pack a day.

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    Erm, not that I’m a fan of Starbucks at all but they absolutely have decent real coffe that has zero sugar in it. Several blends in fact.

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      Starbucks uses local imports. The biggest problem is that they burn the shit out of the beans to normalize it down to the same flavor. So, the big appeal of using locally-sourced beans is wiped away by the way the need for a consistent “flavor”.

      That’s why Starbucks coffee tastes like shit.

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        The pike roast is the only one that is halfway decent in a pinch. It’s their “light” roast.

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          ah, i didn’t know it had a name. I always go light or medium, just enough oat milk to change the color, and i’m happy enough at Sbux

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          Yeah, it’s not the worst, but it’s still shit compared to any other light roast. It’s good for Starbucks, but that’s a low bar. They often don’t even have it available (or at least they often didn’t, but I never went often, and I haven’t been to one in many years).

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        They have blonde roasts.

        Wtf are you on about?

        I personally love a good French roast.

        You sound like my stupid cunt of a mom that does coffee enemas. Bitching about the flavor of coffee when her colon doesn’t even have taste buds. Wtf.

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      No, even their regular coffee is awful.

      McDonalds coffee is better than Starbuck’s, and it’s $1.

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        That’s because they burn it. It’s a branding thing. Massive companies demand uniformity in flavor. McDonald’s puts huge amounts of effort into making sure that a big mac in Maine tastes exactly the same as a big mac in LA.

        Coffee beans are unpredictable, though. Beans from the same farm from the same crop can taste different month to month. So to make it uniform they overroast (burn) the beans.

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          Massive companies demand uniformity in flavor. McDonald’s puts huge amounts of effort into making sure that a big mac in Maine tastes exactly the same as a big mac in LA.

          this is also why in-n-out expanded very slowly for a while. it’s about making sure your supply chain can handle the growth and you can train the employees to keep the culture of the chain.

          when they expanded too fast, their burgers got soggy. they haven’t fixed that.

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            It keeps some of the coffee flavor if you think coffee flavor means burned. It doesn’t though. Good coffee has fruity or flowery notes. None of that remains with Starbucks coffee.

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          I love how a lot of people can be anti-drug while downing three cups of coffee a day. I don’t judge them for that. They can do it if they want. They should be aware that they have an addiction though, and they shouldn’t be deciding what other people can choose to do.

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      yeah, they’re better than the coffee that’s been sitting all week in the urn in the outreach hall whatever the name is i forget at the church i play music at. that shit’s nasty but free coffee’s free coffee

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      It’s ok coffee. It’s like Chikfila - in 1998, when your mall got its first Starbucks, it was head and shoulders above the other options, which were 7/11 and IHOP. However, now that chicken sandwiches are taken seriously, basically everyone who tries beats whatever soggy shit CFA has on offer.

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      That is absolutely coffee, but iwhether its decent is subjective. Both times I went to starbucks it wasn’t much better than gasstation coffee.

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        I should have qualified - decent as in quality in comparison to the other fast food options. 😄

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          McDonalds coffee is way better, and it’s $1.

          I will never again have Starbucks (and haven’t since about 2010 - its just that bad).

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    Switching over to black coffee last year was tough at first, but now it is sooooo much better. I actually kinda dislike it with sweeteners and creamers now.

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      as someone from brazil, the whole concept of american gourmet coffee scares me, my grandma puts too much sugar on her coffee but americans are something else

      that aint coffee, thats fucking high caffeine milkshake

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        You won’t like Vietnamese coffee then. I’m open to it, but in very small amounts. It’s very sweet and they add lots of condensed milk. In the end, it doesn’t really resemble coffee that much.

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          okay that’s cheating. I have a damn fine coffee shop i drink at when i’m feeling rich here. We were visiting the inlaws in Puyallup and omg. even the hotel coffee i did not want to leave.

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          I’m sorry to post basically an ad, but I get my coffee from an LA based roaster called YES PLZ and it’s incredible. I do live in the PNW tho lol

          • That’s cool, I’ll look them up. I like a few small roasters and the coffee is always amazing, but I am cheap and lazy, so usually I just get whatever from wherever (not sbux or Folger’s/maxwell tho haha I have standards). The biggest factors I’ve noticed at home are using freshly ground beans with a decent machine. Getting the fancy ninja machine and a mill grinder was a real game changer.

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          Dude, there’s good coffee everywhere.

          And I blame where you are for the garbage that is Starbucks.

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        Dude if you can try Colombian coffee, don’t need no gourmet just buy what you can find. I love sello Rojo, it’s less strong than pilão but has more taste.

        As for American coffee, the things I tried when travelling didn’t taste like coffee at all. Everywhere I go that has this American style coffee capsules I have to put 2 expressos to even find the coffee smell, and that’s from a Brazilian that thinks pilão is strong.

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          Capsules?

          You mean that stupid machine with the pods? Yea, fuck that, it’s not good. And it’s expensive per serving.

          Even plain drip coffee is better than that crap if you buy good coffee.

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          Go sit at a Starbucks with your “just a plain, regular coffee, none of this Frappuccino half-caff double-whip soy latte crap” order. You’ll see plenty of men grabbing the same coffee milkshakes as women. They’re all attracted to it the same way they’re all attracted to milkshakes: for being a tasty drink. The only difference is some men are embarrassed to admit it’s fine to enjoy a Frappuccino. Or a sweet cocktail, for that mater. And yet, if you make a sweet, fruity, caffeine drink but put it in a scary container, suddenly it’s manly to drink Monster, right?

          It’s really not that complicated.