I too pray for violence against Hegseth, Trump, and others
Doesn’t this fool know you’re supposed to be very careful and specific in how you word your wishes?
He’s a neonazi christian fundamentalist, you really think he read One Thousand and One Nights?
Is he saying he’s going to commit suicide or just wants to be dommie stomped to death?
The drunk religious nutter sack of shit is now a war criminal.
I feel like the Pope really oughta excommunicate this dude.
I think he would just see that as validation.
Yeah, he’s not Catholic, so he’d spin it as a badge of honor for sure.
Man saw the opening oh Zardoz and was like HMMM
Did he consider that if his prayer was granted, he’d get a lightning bolt right up his own ass?
“Ouch! That felt kinda like divine judgement! But can’t be that the good lawd would ever object to putting His name on my atrocities. . . I guess this gosh darned electric butt plug must be acting up again.”
Little Lindsey “Tinkerbell” Graham takes notes…
Enough of that, it’s nearly time for the Two Minutes Hate!
Song: Circle Jerks - Killing for Jesus
Does anyone here read Dungeon Crawler Carl? I Uzi Jesus wouldn’t carry this, but that was the first thing that came to mind.
I am the way, motherfucker.
fuckin spoiler warning please, some of us are on book 3
I thought the point of Christianity was that everyone deserves mercy?
Theologically speaking, it’s the opposite: nobody deserves mercy, but God gives it to them anyways. But you’d have to open a Bible to know that, which none of these ghouls have.
I thought that was no one deserves God’s mercy. Not that the mewling masses don’t deserve mercy from each other.
Are we really quibbling over the logic in a make-believe book about sky daddy?
What an incredibly apathetic view. Do you dare not learn all you can with what miniscule time we have here? How much history, story, mythos, and philosophy do you miss out on? Are the Vedas treated with such blantant disregard? The Parthenon? Ted Lasso was right, it’s significantly better to be curious and not judgemental.
Do you dare not learn all you can with what miniscule time we have here?
in fact I do, which is why I don’t waste times on unprovable, untestable, pointless garbage that’s overwhelmingly been used to manipulate the species.
But have fun with your skycake.
Well, I’m sorry you feel that way. Obviously, I feel differently. There’s so much to be said about the human experience and I feel religion and spirituality inherently play a large role in how the species has evolved recently and the understanding of those can expand one’s mind.
I’m most sorry that you felt the need to reply with the same superiority complex shared by the Western Christian Church. You clearly have been hurt by religious figures in some way, or else you wouldn’t harbour so much resentment and hatred. I want you to know, and I mean this with all sincerety, I love you.
“The one who loves all intensely begins perceiving in all living beings a part of himself. He becomes a lover of all, a part and parcel of the Universal Joy. He flows with the stream of happiness, and is enriched by each soul.”
I feel religion and spirituality inherently play a large role
then stop calling yourself agnostic.
please, it’s embarrassing to us both.
Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(
Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(
bwahahaha you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?
ah jeeze that’s sad for you
you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?
No, i’m saying 90% of intellectual discourse is at least influenced by religion because it comes from people who are religious. Atheism being significant is a very modern phenomenon so if you’re going to study anything in history, philosophy, art or science, it’s gonna be full of religious people acting out their religious beliefs.
Even today something like 4 out of 5 people are religious, and most atheists are influenced by that common culture in some way. Dismissing the whole cultural reservoir as fairy tale is a terrible footgun, it can only make everything confusing. Everybody else is pulling from it and you refuse to even acknowledge it, that’s not gonna work.
You’re going to read poetry but it will make no sense and the climax won’t land because you can’t empathize with the religious sentiment. You’re going to read greek philosophy but it will feel drawn out and theoretical because you can’t empathize with the religious imperatives of the author. And i say this as a strict agnostic, i’m really not the kind of guy you’ll find in a church. But you can’t get to the meat of most intellectual discourse if you dismiss religion, just like you can’t get to the meat of most physics if you dismiss math.
Also, noone is given authority to mete out god’s judgement.
The point of Christianity is that if you can convince people that they shouldn’t expect any rewards until they die, you get a really compliant set of workers and soldiers who will let you impoverish and mistreat them because “the meek will inherit the earth.” You know, after your value has been fully extracted by the owners.
Christianity went from a cult to a state religion REALLY fast because of this concept.
More broadly that’s the utility of all monotheism. It is extremely effective at uniting people but also teaches them to abide by an authoritarian hierarchical framework.
Not Nazi Christianity.
It is.
I thought the point of Christianity was that everyone deserves mercy?
There are many sects of “Christianity”. A flavor for every world view. These are Christian Nationalists. Their version of it has little to do with such woke things as “mercy”. It’s mostly an authoritarian view with a strict hierarchy.
It is, if you actually believe in it. Unfortunately practically none of them actually do. And discouragingly, most atheists would love for you to believe that the world would be no better off if they actually believed in and followed the teachings of Jesus. It clearly would be. Does that mean Christianity isn’t full of issues? Nope. But it does mean that clearly we’d be better off if people treated each other as they wished to be treated themselves. And yes before the atheists say it, we ALL KNOW this idea is not unique to Christianity. But it’s kind of key to that religion for the small minority of Christians who actually give a shit about it.
And discouragingly, most atheists would love for you to believe that the world would be no better off if they actually believed in and followed the teachings of Jesus.
What a shallow caricature. I’ve never met an atheist who didn’t basically agree with the teachings of Jesus, even if they didn’t believe he existed. But I’ve met many Christians who seemed completely at odds with them.
What a shallow reading of my comment. This thread is full of people raging about Christianity being an evil cult. So I don’t really have to prove that point. Just about any thread on Lemmy where this comes up is the same.
Not long ago someone flipped out on me for making this point, accusing me of defending the church which I hadn’t done in any way. What usually is happening, when people disagree on this, is assumptions are being made about what each party believes. I am sure most atheists would agree with those teachings yes, but online if it comes up you’re either a brainwashed Christian or a hardcore atheist who hates Christianity. At least that’s how people think of each other. The nuance is erased, and it’s a damn shame.
But it does mean that clearly we’d be better off if people treated each other as they wished to be treated themselves
This is a Gnostic point of view, and Gnosticism is opposed by Christianity. The Christian view is to treat others how God wants you to treat them.
Only for those who have actually read the book…
The problem is what parts you choose to read and focus on. Violent abusers are all about that old testament. The only good Samaritan to them is a dead one. They generally shun the new testament because that’s where all the namby pamby you are your brothers keeper stuff comes in.
Oh, the book is horrendous. Cannot recommend.
But the overarching story of this Jesus character they obsess over, I think that guy had something to say about mercy.
Yep, even their Jesus is OT. A brutal conquering emperor. That would crush all who opposes him. Not a meek man generally preaching tolerance and sacrifice.
I think a lot of them would love to be one of the Romans “helping out”:
If you consider the Inquisitor Cycle, people do not. Jesus took revenge after the Romans tried to kill him, and refused to die for anyone’s sins. Christianity is based on having no mercy whatsoever.
Christianity is Cobra Kai???
Maybe Terry Silver.
You can’t get them with logic
“What’s the 5th commandment Pete?”
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The Christian god is actually very wrathful and routinely causes death and suffering in the bible
Well, ya see, they’re morons. That’s why I sacrifice to Odin. You want no mercy? Pray to the guy who hung himself on a tree by choice, not the one who got his pacifist ass nailed to one by the authorities.
Just like Jesus wanted!
Ah yes, there’s no hate quite like Christian love
There’s so many Christian’s that are going to Hell
As a total atheist, the older I get the more I hope I’m wrong about Hell…
“My god is the god of love and compassion, and if you don’t believe in him, fuck you, I hope he kills you before I do.”
I always loved getting Buddhism as a religion in Civilization. Then spreading it everywhere at the point of the sword.
YOU WILL ACCEPT PEACEFUL ENLIGHTENMENT, OR YOU WILL DIE!
Um… Buddhist nationalism is a thing. For example: https://radicalisationresearch.org/research/jerryson-2011-buddhist/
Not sure that’s how Christianity is supposed to work…
glances at the history of Christianity
The saddest thing about the history of Christianity is just how juxtaposed it is to the actual theology contained in the new testament. Anytime in history a movement actually starts to apply the actual lessons of Christianity they seem to get hunted down by their fellow Christians.
My dad’s side of the family got kicked out of Europe towards the end of the bohemian reformation, and then got kicked out of colonial georgia for accepting slaves and native Americans into the church.
Jesus is a marketing mascot. Expecting the Christian religion to behave according to the teachings of Jesus is like expecting the Nestle corporation to behave according to the teachings of the Quik Bunny.
This is unexpectedly poignant.
There isn’t a religion on the planet that hasn’t been manipulated and misconstrued to encourage violence against others.
It almost seems like that’s the whole point…
“a way of thinking”. It’s not just religion that gets people blood thirsty. It is human nature unfortunately. We need to rise above our animal selves
Yeah, but when a way of thinking is based from the outset around letting authority figures dictate your beliefs it becomes a hell of a lot easier to manipulate. Other ideologies have to at least pretend to be logically coherent. Religion doesn’t have that limitation.
Other ideologies do not have to pretend to be logically coherent. Phrenology and Eugenics were fairly widely accepted by colonial era Europeans and had no logical coherence. White supremacy continues to be a worldview/ideology for a not so small minority even today and has no real logical coherence.
Any ideology can gain widespread adoption if it fits with what people want to believe.
Maybe not how it’s supposed to work, but it is how it’s always worked.
It is for most “Christians”.
To be fair, the real ones some like this… But how many of those are left?
