The rate at which the U.S. military has used the Tomahawk missiles in the Iran war has reportedly prompted internal talks about increasing supplies
Some Pentagon officials are concerned about the “alarmingly low” supply of Tomahawk missiles remaining in the U.S. military’s arsenal after firing 850 of the weapons into Iran, according to a report.
The rate at which the U.S. military has used the Tomahawk missiles in President Donald Trump’s war in Iran, now in its fourth week, has prompted internal talks about increasing supplies, according to The Washington Post.
U.S. officials told the newspaper that the number of Tomahawks left in the Middle East was “alarmingly low.” Another official told the outlet that the U.S. supply of Tomahawks was closing in on “Winchester,” military slang that means almost out of ammunition.
Now they will print more dollars to buy some more Tomahawks and the world will bet on that dollar again. When it does this shit (USA) will collapse fast.
It’s so silly. Those were made to be used ‘surgically’: to hit specific high value targets at extended range while minimising collateral damage. If you feel the need to use 850 of them, you’ve chosen the wrong weapon system: at that point, you should be flying B52’s over whatever you want to hit. Or turn Tehran into a glass parking lot.
who males the Tomahawk and are Trump’s kids long that stock?
Raytheon (RTX Corp)
This is like when a noob uses a cheat code at the beginning of the game and still loses
Invincibility cheat and then walk off the edge of the map so it doesn’t matter 🤣
those are about 3 million each, in pre trump funds. Looks like tax paying Americans will all be emptying or wallets and cutting services to replace those now too. I hope Israel is happy with us and sends our politicians a tiny fraction of that amount in bribes.
Btw only 9000 tomahawk missiles have ever been produced in the 43 year lifespan of the tomahawk program, and at top speed we can produce 600 a year. We usually make up to 90 a year. We reportedly had between 3-4000 in our inventory.
This is what scares me in a true protracted war with China. Imagine their production capacity. Even if our weapons are better, does it make a difference if they can build them 10x faster at 90% the efficacy?
You only need a few nukes to defeat all missiles China could produce in their entire existence. Any direct hot conflict with possibility of either side’s total defeat would turn into a nuclear one.
US army internal planning and table top runs show we run out of munitions for the high-high fight in days in a war with China.
It’s a documented and very real concern.
I always thought that was the point of nuclear bombs. You can attack me and you might even defeat me but it’s gonna cost you. No need to have a lot of ammunition but a few that are very hurtful.
If you kill me ill kill you right back.
Oh yeah? We just built more nukes than you we cna kill you 5 times.
Kill me 5 times? Watch this. I can kill you 50 times now lol.
50 times? Hah! Pathetic! Watch how I have the capacity to kill everyone everywhere a hundred times over!
Shit. Better build better nukes so I can kill everyone a thousand times over.
The worst is this is the most intelligent form of life in the known universe. This might be peak.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a gun nut or at all pro war, but why do they produce multimillion dollar missiles consisting of metal, fuel and explosives for that much for a one-way use instead of using that money to prevent wars? Well, call me a sweet summer child.
Tomahawk missiles are meant to be used for high precision strikes, they’re basically the missile equivalent of a 50. cal sniper loaded with AP-I rounds which is to say explosive but deadly if you want someone or something annihilated. Problem is they’re using them like artillery or maybe a V-1 so of course it’s gonna be fucking expensive for no reason, to go back to my previous analogy it’s like using said sniper and ammo to hunt squirrels.
Are they doing this so they have an excuse not to help Taiwan next year?
If china get Taiwan the US is going into the stone age overnight. No president is trying to avoid this, both parties want to protect Taiwan.
Not after musk gets his super duper mega chip factory running.
And what does Krasnov’s boss want?
Putin wanted Finland to stay out of NATO, look how well that worked out for him. Stupid leaders make stupid choices.
But I think NATO would probably have a coalition to protect Taiwan anyways.
Or yet another excuse of why they can’t help there own citizens. “Universal health care? You know how much that would cost???”
Those could have been used against russia to defend Ukraine…
Right… that’s the concern here… dwindling supplies.
Imagine a world where the US ran out of bombs.
What did the US say at the end of the war? Iran out of bombs.
Of Iranians or missles?
That really is the best opportunity for China to take Taiwan. Wait a little bit longer until stockpiles are empty and ground troops are deployed and then strike while the USA is occupied
Why would China bother?
China is about to become what America was: #1 country, #1 economy, with oil traded in their currency, with resources available across the globe.
China’s investments in Trump are about to pay off huge.
Why fuck with a winning hand by invading a small island when they can just keep doing what they’re doing, and let Taiwan make semiconductors for China, and collect all the benefits of being Top Dog?
Taiwan might be asking to join China to protect itself from perceived American aggression at this rate.
Already kinda is, it feels like.
I’m Canadian; most people here seemed extremely happy to see our PM in China making actual deals and opening up trade.
That’s exactly why I am 99% sure that everything with Trump and the Republicans will eventually point back to China. That’s who benefits from all the chaos, all the corruption.
Russia is a nice red herring, but China is using them and will discard them as soon as it is convenient.
This is exactly from a book of Sun Zu, sit back and watch your enemies fight with each other’s and you will win without shooting a single shot.
Do not interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake
China supposedly now has a full copy of the Epstein files too.
If that was true, why are they still saber rattling? Stupid dictators and bloodthirsty supporters lead to stupid wars, so I wouldn’t count it out.
Look at Ukraine. Russia had already de facto annexed most of the land that they hold today. Ukraine wasn’t willing to fight them to get it back. All of Russia’s neighbors were too scared to join EU or NATO. Europe was dependent on Russian gas and vulnerable to Russian coercion.
Putin started the war anyways.
Four years later and hundreds of thousands of soldiers dead, and the economy is crashing. Ukraine is bombing the shit out of Russia and occupied Ukraine and trying to take it all back. Oligarchs are going poor/dying. NATO now has a much larger budget than the Russian military, arguably stronger than it ever was during the Cold War. Putin has no way out of this war, if he withdraws he probably ends up in the Hague.
If he had stopped after 2014, Putin could have kept everything, but he kept breaking the ceasefires and escalating.
Because it costs them nothing to saber rattle?
What they’re doing is working, so they’re going to keep doing it.
Military equipment is not cheap, nor is flying jets into Taiwanese airspace. Also if you keep telling the population that you’re going to invade Taiwan, then they do kind of expect it to some extent, even if the PRC is not a democracy.
Finlandization does have some benefits for the PRC, but I would not rule out a stupid land invasion of Taiwan.
You forget that Japan and Korea are invested in Taiwan’s safety.
If China wasn’t dealing with unknowns in their military due to corruption I think they definitely would. Still might.
The US doesn’t even formally recognized Taiwan. We were never going to enter a conventional war against a nuclear power for their sake.
*and actually now would be the worst time for them to invade. Trump is probably one of the only presidents dumb and chaotic enough to actually get into a conventional war with China. Along with Taiwan’s relevance as ‘the global chip factory’ fading they’d be much better off waiting a few years.
**hello downvoters. general consensus among military wonks is that China would rinse the US if the US intervened in an invasion of ROC. You see how the Iran war is going? Now imagine if they had a much larger missile arsenal, ICBMs, hypersonic glide vehicles, and an actual air force. In-theater conventional war greatly favors China and the US does not have enough long range capability to change that without going nuclear which obviously precludes the whole thing to anyone sane.
Yes you are. Because they manufacture all of your microchips.
losing 60% of global microchip production (and dropping) or some Dongfeng-5Bs putting the US into the fallout universe timeline. It’s not a great choice but it’s a relatively easy one.
Jesus… How many schools did they have??
850
AI says these cost $1.3 million each on the low end.
That’s at least another billion dollars wasted on Israel that could’ve been spent helping Americans.
They cost closer to $4m each.
I cannot imagine there’s actually $1.3M of anything in these missiles. They’re probably a few grand and then about $1.3M of mark-up.
It’s a missile that you can fire from one country and hit a specific building in another country.
Can’t just go out and put some Playstation parts and TNT into a tube and call it good. A million+ per missile makes sense.
There is over a grand of just silver in the things at current spot prices.
It’s not just what’s inside them. It’s the entire process of making them. There are a lot of people involved that all want to be paid for their work.
Ofc the price you sell them for is higher than the cost of making them. But they’re still very expensive to make.
As a former Gov contractor who now works for gov, yes. Price always goes up for government contracts.
Yesterday’s technology today at tomorrow’s prices?
Yes, and no. It can be great tech but it’ll cost an extra 30% on top because Big G is paying.
Also true in government, if you don’t spend the entirety of your budget that’s been assigned to you, you clearly would never ever need it, so finance will take it away next year when you DID need it. So it’s easier to spend the entirety every year just in case you need that amount the next year. It’s dumb and annoying even as a government worker.
Once again, comedy gold for the Kremlin.
Raytheon salesmen would like to know your location
So, apparently there’s a term that’s used in the defence industry for advanced, extremely capable, very expensive weapons: “exquisite weapons”. This sounds like something out of a fantasy RPG, but it’s actually the term they use in the industry to talk about these things, the Tomahawk being one of them.
So, while Iran is hitting various sites around the middle east with machines that cost about the same as a small car and are built in a basic factory, the US is spending 100x as much, building missiles in special high-tech factories using clean rooms and high end robots. Not only that, but the weapons the US is using to intercept Iran’s drones cost about 100x as much as the drones they’re shooting down.
We have too damn much money and not nearly enough brains.
1,5trillion has to go somewhere.
Hey now, the US has its own low-cost drone reverse engineered from an Iranian one-way attack drone.
Does that mean they’ll stop building Tomahawks? Of course not, now two companies can benefit instead of one. That’s 2x the military-industrial complex baby!
Additionally, it’s why GBUs exist. They are inexpensive and in wide-use by the US military.
which was reversed engineered from a US drone originally.
this mostly makes me think of rimworld, tbh
They bombed a bunker months ago, now there’s a bunch of tomahawk missles deployed; Is The Dept. of War getting ideas from Top Gun: Maverick? /s
Take away the /s. In the first term, Steve Mnuchin was…Treasury, I think. Anyway, he’s a movie producer, on the financing side. Look up his list of credits. The things you describe sound exactly like his kinds of movies. Mnuchin was probably encouraging Trump, so he could later make a movie about it “based on a true story.”
