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    I have to wonder if it’s possible to fuck these up with a QR code bumper sticker. They are notoriously poorly designed.

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      I once contacted their support cause I sent my “marker” in for warranty, they’re like oh yeah unfortunately your chunk of metal is um (probably in their museum) but nothing we can do for you except ship you our top of the line brand new model… Dang you guy’s really screwed me.

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    People talk about shining lasers into the sensors. Not sure if thats a real thing or a myth.

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      A powerful enough laser can permanently damage digital camera sensors, but really only the pixels the laser directly hits. (Not to mention the legal/safety issues of owning one powerful enough to completely destroy one)

      For example, Volvo’s lidar system famously burnt out pixels on people’s phones

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    So the only thing that changed is that the area lost their own access to them at the termination date, but the camera companies still collect that data.

    Sounds like the thing to do is take the cameras down

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        I started to write about covering, but I don’t know the full sensor suite and I assume they can still collect a bunch of data. That sounds good as a first step, though.

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          You know, you could fuck with those too. Those sensors are passive devices. They don’t directly engage with what they are observing. Which means they cannot authenticate anything. There’s no challenge-response.

          So I wonder how hard it would be to flood the blinded cameras with gibberish data.

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    Since they are operating illegally, does that mean we can just take them? They have RAM.

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    In civilized countries The Flock Camera network is CLEARLY illegal.
    My recommendation to USA is to strive to become a civilized country, before caring so much about every single detail that arise from not being a civilized country.
    Americans are constantly focusing on the symptoms but never on the disease that cause them. Maybe because Americans are brainwashed to think the insanity going on in USA is normal.

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      There’s a lot of money controlling media propaganda, which brainwashes people. Or people are otherwise powerless. You could probably say the same about Russians in Putin’s Russia. Or Chinese under the CCP.

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        Yes, the difference is that most people are aware it’s happening in Authoritarian countries like Russia and China, but forget that it’s also happening in USA.

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        Most of us voted for this by not voting for the literally only other viable candidate and most of us are too bitch pussy to nut the fuck up and own the consequences of our actions. That’s why most of us deserve what we’re getting. 75 million Americans don’t deserve this. The rest are getting what they voted for.

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          Harris has never even lied and pretended she is against the surveillance state or the military industrial complex. Did you want people to vote for Jill Stein? Write in Bernie during the primaries? You can vote for mask off fascism or you can vote for a respectable statesman who keeps the killing of brown people a bit quieter. How is that a viable option. Because you feel better stateside? Do you go on YouTube and comment on old Obama speeches about how you miss having a President who could speak in full sentences while he oversaw a campaign of mass terror, bailed out (FUNDED) global financial leeches, and did nothing to slow the consolidation of billionaire backed media and tech conglomerates because at the end of the day, he believes in this shit too?

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            So your solution is get the mask off fascism in power, congratulations you’re an accelerationist and thus about as serious as the average MAGAt.

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              I do not consider a teenager fresh to current events disagreeing with me on politics as much of a gotcha moment. If you’re older than I’ve guessed you should consider learning more before you try to transition into educating. If every single citizen of the united states who still has the right to vote casts a ballot for Kamala Harris, Palestine still burns, and Palantir still revolutionizes killing and incarcerating people elsewhere. But maybe there’s still pride at Target. Is that what you mean by viable?

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                Building a civilization is harder than you think. You’re being lazy by not putting the work in to make things better.

                Do you think all the forces at play that have led us here will magically go away after it all burns down? You’re either dangerously naive, stupid, or have an ulterior motive.

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          Tedious thread hijacking. There are whole communities of post after post for you to do this exact thing. Cant you go do this there?

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          What a joke. Harris, the ex-prosecutor who worked directly with police to send people to jail would have somehow banned these devices? Based on what exactly, the (D) next to her name?

          These cameras are all over Democratic cities because they love surveillance too. Look how many stories about people wrongfully accused/arrested of crimes based on junk Flock data have come out of places like Colorado and California.

          Furthermore Democrats are all on board with other mass surveillance laws such as the KIDS Act, requiring people to show ID to install operating systems or go online, which has a majority support amongst both Democratic and Republican legislators. Obama happily continued the PATRIOT Act, and the list goes on.

          What a bunch of absolute nonsense pulled straight from your behind.

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            Yeah, that’s why you primary incumbents with progressives you fucking walnut. Participate in the fuckin conversation or go back to your accelerationist space. What you’re doing right here gets republicans elected, but that’s probably your goal anyway.

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              Unless the DNC decides not to have a primary like we saw with Biden in '24 or use their wealth and power to crush progressive candidates like they tried to do in the NYC mayoral election. You’re dangerously naive if you think that the issue with these people holding us under their thumb is that they don’t have enough support from us.

              You’re the accelerationist here because you’re the one demanding we turn our brains off and support the status quo and let them do as they wish. You’re being played like a fiddle.

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          “viable candidate” and it was someone who was trying to appeal to moderate republicans that don’t exist. Now your party is getting all of your incumbents unseated in favor of socialists and all they’re worried about is how to sabotage said socialists so they can continue to do nothing.

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            And this right here is why Americans mostly deserve what they’ve got. And I’m the socialist taking over the party. If all you moron chucklefucks voted for progressives in democratic primaries and kept republicans out in the general then we wouldn’t be nuts fucking deep in a fascism right now, but numpty fucks scream both sides and here we are.

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              You had 13 big names in your party saying they’ll spend more time fighting the socialists than the actual fascists. And people ARE voting for progressives in primaries exactly because the incumbents have been doing exactly nothing. The incumbents wouldn’t be getting primaried if they weren’t so similar to the Republicans to the point of collusion.

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                Oh no 13 out of 257 members of the big tent party… And we still got a bunch in the primaries. Give your balls a tug.

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                  20% of the democratic party is progressive. Whats your big plan to win any election ever again without them? I would have thought losing the last election would touch you knuckleheads some math but here we go again.

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              If all you moron chucklefucks voted for progressives in democratic primaries and kept republicans out in the general then we wouldn’t be nuts fucking deep in a fascism right now

              Except the DNC goes out of their way to sabotage the campaigns of progressive candidates in the primaries and convince everyone that these people are “extremists who can’t win,” so that their right-wing members can continue to win elections and ignore the will of the voters since so many people like yourself are willing to vote for literally anyone just so long as they aren’t the other guy.

              This is precisely why fascism took over because we have two parties controlled by fascists and people like yourself refuse to see the light and change your ways. You still think voting for the lesser evil today will somehow lead to candidates who aren’t evil in the future but that’s not how things work as evidenced by 250 years of our history and the fact that it makes zero logical sense.

              The DNC knows that you will always compromise your supposed beliefs in order to make the other guy lose therefore they have zero reason to ever do anything for you. Republicans do the exact same thing and thats why they’ve both held on to power all this time despite nearly everyone hating them both. You’re just feeding right into their game.

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                You’re an acceleration actively advocating for the destruction of the nation, who gives a fuck what you fuckin think? Fuckin ruspublican propagandist motherfuckers all over this garbage ass platform, making fucking redditors look intelligent. And stop using an LLM to write your comments. This fucking place.

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                  You wanna talk about propaganda? How about your assertion that the Democratic party is the only thing standing between us and the destruction of the nation when we can all see with our own eyes that they are more than happy to help push forth Trump’s agenda. You sound like a MAGA Republican who drank too much koolaid.

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        You proved most of you are brainwashed last elections. So be mad at yourself, not people pointing out the obvious.

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        Are you seriously claiming that Americans aren’t brainwashed. 🤣🤣🤣
        Just making that claim, probably means you are more brainwashed than average, because most Americans are 100% aware they are brainwashed by propaganda by corrupt media and politicians EVERY FUCKING DAY!
        For instance FOX News is one big propaganda channel, no better than the worst in either China or Russia.
        But this propaganda is far from limited to just Fox News, most news channels in USA are propaganda channels owned by the 1%. And of it permeate all of American society, so they for instance think sociopathy is a virtue, so enough voted for Donald Trump for him to become president, and half the population didn’t vote!

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    It’s the year of our lord 2026. Rule of Law is dead. The other Golden Rule is now supreme: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

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      Don’t forget about might makes right. What, you didn’t want to live in a world where big burly dudes with guns protecting wealthy pedophiles tell you what to do?

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      2026 is not the year of the lord, but of the devil make no mistake.

      Gangsters are in control, which is not cool even though you might think it is. It’s not. Gangsters are parasites, making things more expensive.

      Kill the gangsters.

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        This feels a lot like the collapse of the USSR. Like, yeah, shit wasn’t necessarily great before, but what comes after is worse.

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          There was a hypothesis proposed a number of years ago that a mono-polar world is inherently unstable. A second great power keeps the other “honest” to a degree and limits the scope of corruption. It doesn’t stop it entirely mind you, but it has to at least maintain the appearance of integrity or expose its vulnerability. Any world where only one great power exists, must eventually collapse under the weight of internal corruption.

          Looks like the hypothesis had some merit.

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            I don’t much like hypotheses that require certain size groups of people.

            But I guess that’s just the instability of the dictator applied to the entire world.

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            If you crack open a history book you’ll find that a multi-polar world has a lot more war. Napoleonic wars, World Wars, etc. Even in the Cold War when nuclear weapons made it too insane for super powers to fight each other directly, they found ways to have massive proxy wars, like the Korean War and Vietnam War. These wars left over a million people dead each. Then there were all of the various civil wars that the superpowers were involved like the Angolan civil war, that one was about a half million people dead. These conflicts were happening all over the world.

            People today shit themselves over Gaza, but that’s less than a tenth of casualties compared to the wars that happened in the Cold War and less than 0.2% of WW2. Would you consider wars happening in multiple parts of the world with 10 to 500 times the casualties we’ve seen in Gaza to be a “stable world”?

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              The Spanish flu killed more people than all the human wars in the last thousand years. How many genocides still occured under “Pax Americana.” Taking the whole world into account, 90% of humanity would be under just as much threat of violence if the US vanished tomorrow. There hasn’t been an era of broad peace among most of the globe in 6000 years. You act like it’s been sunshine and roses under the monopolar system. Ask the people of Libya, Syria, and Iraq how they feel about that? Ask the Cubans, and the Guatemalans and the Haitians if they feel protected.

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              You are equating the genocide of Palestinians, something that has been going on for decades, to proxy wars between super powers.

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              The Concert of Europe kept the continent relatively peaceful for a century, mainly by ensuring that one nation didn’t become another Napoleonic France.

              Post World War II was also relatively peaceful compared to the interwar years, mainly because of the two interventionist powers trying to compete with each other. There was a lot of genocide after World War I.

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                So if it’s only millions of non-white people dying that means the world is “stable”?

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                  I use stable as a relative term, but it isn’t like the number of non-white people dying goes down during periods of instability.

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    Create a division of local government for supervising the police using flock and suddenly the cameras are full of bullet holes.

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        Yeah id say he’s onto something except police would just get the footage deleted then say its all good - they all investigated themselves.

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    People breaking laws need to loose their freedom. A monetary fine will not be enough.