HOW do you guys tip in the US? Do you go by food total or bill total? I know it’s frowned upon in other countries, I’m not here to question or debate that.

No matter how you split it, pre or post tax, the “gratuity” is much higher than it should be! The 18%is higher even than what actual 20% should be!

Pretax should be $14.26, tax included (ripoff) should be $15.44. So why is the “20%” up to $18.25?! That’s a 25.5% tip.

For me, I tip “15%” but round numbers. The bill is $72, so I take 10% (7.20 but round up to 8 then add 4) which ends up $12.

If they were exceptional, I just go off 20% which is $16 by my method, and round the total to the nearest dollar… but even that isn’t their pretend 18%!! And technically my method is over 20% after rounding up. They’re all just taking advantage of niceness and guilt for patrons having to tip everyone.

Edit: I fucked up being hung up on numbers, not realizing to the left was the explanation. 😅 OK, so just: how do y’all tip?

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Tip depending on the service provided. That is the most important aspect. As I don’t know how your service was, I can’t provide an answer.

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    11 hours ago

    That tipping should be on the before tax total has long been standard practice. If that practice is breaking down it’s because people are ignorant and POS systems are manipulative.

    I would always tip on the total before any discount. If given a freebie, like say the bartender gave me a free drink, I tip as if the freebie were on the bill.

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    18 hours ago

    that qr code isn’t properly censored. qrs have redundancy and you need at most like 60% visible for most of them. pulled the number aut of my ass but it’s definitely a thing.

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      10 hours ago

      The centre is like the only part of the code you don’t actually need lol. It’s a vestigial part

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    21 hours ago

    Suggested gratuity is calculated after taxes and before discounts.

    If you add back in the comped appetizer, the math maths. Not saying I agree with the practice, but it’s not fraud. They’re suggesting you tip based off what you received not what you’re paying per se.

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      21 hours ago

      I agree with calculating tips before discounts, but calculating tips after taxes is bull. I’m not tipping the government.

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      21 hours ago

      That’s the right answer.

      It seems weird in this context, but the normal case is if you’re paying with a gift card. If I had a $110 dinner and had a $100 gift card that was subtracted off the total, the expected tip would be off the $110, not just the $10 paid out of pocket.

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    18 hours ago

    Nothing at all. Not in our culture. Our waiters make a decent living, I suppose.

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    19 hours ago

    When I was a kid it was 10%. 15% was a really good tip.

    Then it was 15% standard. Then 20% standard. Then it started being 20% of the taxed total (~22% really).

    Now I commonly see 20% of taxed as the minimum and 25% of taxed as the suggested.

    I strongly prefer self service restaurants. I’m not interested in being served.

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      8 hours ago

      I strongly prefer self service restaurants. I’m not interested in being served.

      Meanwhile I have been asked to tip (with 15/20/25% buttons) on a burger king self order terminal in Germany lol

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    19 hours ago

    I disagree with tipping on tax, but agree with tipping on discounts. I baseline 20% and adjust up or down based on quality of service, while paying attention to how overworked the staff is.

    I once sat at a hibachi table with strangers who were super demanding and then complained about the service and refused to tip so I added their tip to my bill (without saying anything because I didn’t want to start an argument with them).

    Waitstaff get fucked coming and going. If they do their share of the work, it’s not their fault if the kitchen fucked up. I generally just add the cost of the comped item to the tip rather than 20%.

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    18 hours ago

    Cant help with reality here. Not in USA.

    In UK I just round it up to the nearest note with the phrase “keep the change pal”. I look like a fairly generous guy if the change is 4.90. I look like a condescending prick if the change is 0.10.

    At that point though im out the door so I dont have to deal with gratitude or the ol’ stinkeye

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        16 hours ago

        Well, tolerate the side eye and be willing to screw over someone trying to pay their bills. Whether tipping should be the standard practice (it shouldn’t) is a separate issue. The general expected practice is that you will tip, and tips are effectively a server’s whole wage. It’s not an easy or pleasant job. Going to a sit down restaurant with the intention not to tip, to make someone work for you basically for free, just makes you an asshole. Until we get rid of tipped minimum wage.

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          We’re all trying to pay bills, and I also work in the service industry. Such is life, I’m not gonna be a baby/asshole and demand someone to pay extra (because they’re not underpaying or stealing, gratuity is basically charity and you’re meant to be competent at your job regardless) because of the inequalities of my fucked up so-called society. If you get uppity because someone doesn’t want to waste even more money on a night out just for free, sure, but I don’t think this very emotional take is valid, and it’s acceptable only in the US.

          And, btw, the only intention anyone has by going to a restaurant is eating in exchange for money, the prices are there and I pay the price. Anything else (from complimenting you on your nice shoes to paying your medical bills because you’re very nice) cannot be reasonably expected.

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    20 hours ago

    I tip depending on what I can afford and level of service.

    one time a pizza guy delivered my pizza, seemed really chill and was way early (delivered like 10 minutes after I ordered it). I only had $100 bills so I tipped him $100 on a $25 pizza.

    another time my food was four hours late. I was already in bed at that time. they got zero tip. left my pizza on my front door where raccoons tore it apart and I had to hose pizza sauce off my steps and door the next morning.

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    10 hours ago

    I tip 30% on top of the post-tax if it was good or if I like the people. I have the means, so it’s only fair. If the service was terrible or the food was awful I’ll do 20%.